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Martyr said:i have both slots...
uzor said:
merlin704 said:I still have an AGP based system. Why should I upgrade when my [email protected] and X800XTPE plays everything with max settings?
Dan_D said:Are you telling me you get acceptable FPS in FEAR with everything maxed out at 1600x1200 or even 1280x1024? Even with soft shadows disabled, I doubt you could maintain a minimum of 30FPS through out the entire game. How much AA and AF are you using in these games? If you are using low AA and AF, you aren't "maxed"
What about Quake 4? At 1680x1050 I can't maintain the smoothest FPS on my machine with one X1950XTX. Of course I am using V-Sync, and it never goes to an unplayable level, but there is a drop in performance compared to my dual 7900GTX SLi setup. At my resolution and settings, I wouldn't consider the game set to "max" quality.
As far as I am concerned none of the hardware today can play every game out there at truely "maxed" settings.
"Maxed" to me is the maximum resolution, and AA and AF the game supports. With all details and options on full. I probably would make an exception for FEAR's soft shadows as they don't seem to do much of anything, except hurt performance.
merlin704 said:Perhaps I should clarify: Max settings in the games that "I" play.
lloose said:Yup
Solitare pwns your soxorz!11!1 on widescreen..
shadow1988 said:merlin are you from NC? i see that 704..... and i use pci-E by the way
I am with this guy, and the other who had the x800xtpe and said he played everything at max settings.VGplay said:AGP. I'm holding on to my Barton for another year until quad cores come down to reasonable prices (assuming quad core prices will be inflated when they're released).
merlin704 said:Perhaps I should clarify: Max settings in the games that "I" play.
uzor said:
Dan_D said:Are you telling me you get acceptable FPS in FEAR with everything maxed out at 1600x1200 or even 1280x1024? Even with soft shadows disabled, I doubt you could maintain a minimum of 30FPS through out the entire game. How much AA and AF are you using in these games? If you are using low AA and AF, you aren't "maxed"
What about Quake 4? At 1680x1050 I can't maintain the smoothest FPS on my machine with one X1950XTX. Of course I am using V-Sync, and it never goes to an unplayable level, but there is a drop in performance compared to my dual 7900GTX SLi setup. At my resolution and settings, I wouldn't consider the game set to "max" quality.
As far as I am concerned none of the hardware today can play every game out there at truely "maxed" settings.
"Maxed" to me is the maximum resolution, and AA and AF the game supports. With all details and options on full. I probably would make an exception for FEAR's soft shadows as they don't seem to do much of anything, except hurt performance.
ryan_975 said:You guys sporting both AGP and PCIe on one board do know that isn't really AGP right? It's PCI rewired to AGP pinout. There's no DiME, and no sideband addressiing. And they have to share bandwidth with the other PCI devices. (with the exception of the ULi 1695 )
By the way, I'm PCIe
Actually, it IS AGP. Full bandwidth, all the silly features, everything. There are some others that fake it like you've said, but this is not one of them. I did my homework.ryan_975 said:You guys sporting both AGP and PCIe on one board do know that isn't really AGP right? It's PCI rewired to AGP pinout. There's no DiME, and no sideband addressiing. And they have to share bandwidth with the other PCI devices. (with the exception of the ULi 1695 )
By the way, I'm PCIe
ryan_975 said:You noticed that I did say "with the exception of the ULi 1695" chpset right?
Met-AL said:I'm with you here on this, but how much better is it really with a spankin' new $500 card? My monitor doesn't do 1600x1200 so truly maxed settings for me are running at 1440x900, and I have yet to have a game I play choke on my system. FEAR, BF2, CoH, Quake 4, HL2/CS:S, Doom3 are all of my newer games I play, and it my rig runs them just fine and I don't miss out on any features with the exception of FEAR.
This reasoning was why when I upgraded from what I refer to as my SuperOverclocked system (Mobile Barton @ 2.6Ghz) to this one, I said to self...$500 video card? Nope, not worth it by any stretch, so I bought my ASRock board with both an AGP and PCI-E slot so I could get past this slot change and not buy a new card just because I had to and kept my AIW X800XT which hangs in there pretty damn good with the good overclocking that I get with it.
Dan_D said:Once you start buying these uber high end cards, it is hard to stop. You begin craving higher end cards and higher settings.
Met-AL said:There is a cure for that, it's called lack of money, occasionaly brought on by things like having a couple of children. That for one will cure you of your video card addiction! It worked for me. My video card addiction abruptly ended back in the late 90's with the Voodoo3. Since then, it's been tight value orientated spending for me.