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what's wrong with the gtx 480?
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Don't forget it has more power drain than any other Nvidia card too.
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It's not slower. There's just many that feel it's not worth the cost in money, power, heat, and time-to-market for the performance it does offer.
However, you're assertion that a higher clock speed is equal to better performance is unfounded. Just look at the Perntium 4 vs the Athlon 64, or the Core i7 vs the Phenom II.
Clock speeds only matter between identical GPUs. For example, you can't compare the clock speeds of the GTX 480 and 470. There are other differences like SP count that matter. The only time you can compare clock speeds is between two GTX 480s, for example.
And the GTX 480 is the fastest geforce you can buy, just not the fastest video card (5970 still holds that honor). The GTX 295 beats it on occasion, but overall the GTX 480 is the fastest Nvidia card.
And the GTX 480 is the fastest geforce you can buy, just not the fastest video card (5970 still holds that honor). The GTX 295 beats it on occasion, but overall the GTX 480 is the fastest Nvidia card.
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Too hot, too hungry, too loud, too much too late.
Price/performance is NOT worth it.
/me hugs his 5850
Price/performance is NOT worth it.
/me hugs his 5850
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For most its price. For a selected few its power/heat.
After looking at some users over at XS play with the card, I have already decided its the card for me. Amds offerings are still very impressive for the price they are coming in at though.
After looking at some users over at XS play with the card, I have already decided its the card for me. Amds offerings are still very impressive for the price they are coming in at though.
sorry. this card sucks, imo it is a complete failure. i have to upgrade my old 192 260 gtx card, i am saving money and going to get a 5870 or maybe if possible the 5970.
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It's mediocre at worst. The Geforce FX and Radeon HD 2900 XT sucked. For those who want the fastest setup available, it fits the very large bill for them. It's honestly not really any worse than the 8800 Ultra was in it's day.
The difference between the 8800 Ultra and the 480 is that the 8800 Ultra was first to market. It's okay to be a big, obscenely hot, super expensive card when you're the only game in town. It's especially okay to be obscenely hot and draw a ton of power when the competition is going to be a big, hot, power hog too.
In this case, the 480 is way late to the party and doesn't exactly offer much in the way of performance/$ or performance/watt. I'm not disagreeing about the more money than sense crowd--a 480 SLI or Tri-SLI setup is going to rule the roost--but it's really no 8800 Ultra.
Well put.
There aren't any retail GTX 4xx cards yet, meaning any cards people DO have are likely cherry picked. I'm curious how people at XS have the card, unless they got review samples?
Regardless, I'd take any GTX 480 OC results with a grain of salt until people start getting their hands on retail cards and seeing what they can do.
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The 8800 Ultra was introduced at $829 and was nothing more than an overclocked 8800GTX which was released 6 months before at $599. The situation was much the same, except Nvidia was competting with itself.
It's a great fast card and I admit it being an hd 5870 owner, but there are other factors that hold it back. I wouldn't want my card idling at 90c when having both my monitors connected. The price certainly holds it back, I usually buy nvidia cards all the time, but it is just not worth it for me to switch, I personally feel it would be a stupid move on my part. May be a refresh or two, but just think about it, Nvidia ain't gonna have another architecture for a while, while amd has been sitting in the background building the next the architecture while milking the same old r600 architecture up to hd 5870 by continously improving it. I wonder where the performance gap would be at the end of the year when ati is scheduled to release the next gen card. This is why I feel Nvidia card had to be atleast 40-50% faster since it was a new architecture, since it failed to do that it will loose badly to next gen ati. 6 months from now nvidia will bearly be shrinking it, and given TSMC's lack of quality of 45nm I honestly don't know how effiecient they will be at 28nm and how fast they can transition, because no way in hell nvidia can go beyond 512 core on 45nm. They will improve a little with new die revisions but I doubt it will save fermi against next gen ati.
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Idling at 90c? Can you link me to that. I missed it.
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LOL-And i still have my agp 5800 ultra here on the shelf .The Original leaf blower.I have never favored either side of the fence ,but ati does seem to have a sound product. Nvidea is trying to catch up.Time will tell.
go to nvidia section there is a bing thread about it, with all the links. I did say with dual monitor setup to be exact. It is at legitreviews.com I believe.
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I wasn't trying to call you out on it, or accuse you of making anything up. I legitimately wanted to know since I have quite a few people come to me for advice on hardware purchases. It's all about being better informed.
Nothing wrong with it. It is a good video card. i have had my GTX 480 for a week and it is faster than my Diamond (reference) HD 5870.
--The only card faster than GTX 480 is HD 5890 - which costs $100 more
-----Now to be fair, i just got a potential hyper-overclocker - the PowerColor HD 5870 PCS+, and i have yet to put it overclocked against my GTX 480 .. but then my 480 is a good overclocker also
The 197.17 GF100 launch drivers are beta, yet it has good performance and good potential for brand new architecture.
Under FurMark, my GTX 480 peaked at 97 C; usually it runs much cooler and the fan is not so noticeable until it starts to really rev up
i got it under NDA directly from Nvidia last Friday. i sat in on the same web meeting as Kyle.
Yes, that was a typo... The only card faster than GTX 480 is HD 5970
- and i think we should say, "not yet" on the 5890
i never said i did; i just got a 5870 PowerColor PCS+ on Friday - now i can CrossFire it with my Diamond reference HD 5870
- the 5890 was my typo in place of me correctly writing 5970
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i got it under NDA directly from Nvidia last Friday. i sat in on the same web meeting as Kyle.
Yes, that was a typo... The only card faster than GTX 480 is HD 5970
- and i think we should say, "not yet" on the 5890
i never said i did; i just got a 5870 PowerColor PCS+ on Friday - now i can CrossFire it with my Diamond reference HD 5870
- the 5890 was my typo in place of me correctly writing 5970
How many free cards do you get from ATi and nvidia during every release?
And since you have both cards, why can't you provide us with some benchmark results?
sorry if it sounded that way, I wasn't implying anything either, lol. but yea when I logged in this afternoon that was the main thread on top.
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I would be inclined to say that if you take into account the number of SPs on the 480 as opposed to the 470, the the clockspeed on them is comparable provided that we can match their memory bandwiths.
Actually clocking the 480 and 470 at identical speeds would give us a direct comparison of 480 vs 448 SPs provided that we can correct for memory bandwith (difference should be around 7 %) And stock there is a 15 % clock increase from the 470 to the 480 so all in all the 480 will be around 24 % faster than the 470, this difference will increase if video memory or bandwith becomes an issue.
Rosie O'Donnell was made by goblins?
Only by a few FPS and not even in all games. I have a 5870 too and upgrading to a GTX 480 I would consider a waste of money because it is not faster by much at all and it consumes more power and is noisier too boot. I don't upgrade video cards unless it offers me a real advantage and GTX 480 doesn't.
What?! if you're referring to the poll I made, it was not that.. it was "how fast do you believe it will be?" (i.e. expectations). Most picked 10%. So I think you're mistaken: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1499748
It may not have impressed everyone, but it lined up with a lot of peoples expectations.
No, she was made by God from leftover parts.
If goblins had made the 480GTX it would be indestructible and super-shiny.
What's wrong with it: Too hot, too loud, too much of a power hog considering we're supposed to be seeing advancements across the boards including on energy and power efficiency. If ATI can do it, why can't NVidia?
Specs: Pretty awesome for the most part but not the full 512 cores and 100 percent Fermi design. People have written all over the place the kinds of specs these cards should have had with the 512 core and all of that.
Price: Too expensive of an MSRP and especially considering what the competition offers, will offer, and has been offering for the last several months.
Overall: An incomplete product that just had to be rushed out because it had already been a lengthy delay. That's what it looks like to me, all told.
Awesome card outside of these things. I haven't fully written it off for myself yet although I'm not in any super hurry, either.
That's just my two cents.
Specs: Pretty awesome for the most part but not the full 512 cores and 100 percent Fermi design. People have written all over the place the kinds of specs these cards should have had with the 512 core and all of that.
Price: Too expensive of an MSRP and especially considering what the competition offers, will offer, and has been offering for the last several months.
Overall: An incomplete product that just had to be rushed out because it had already been a lengthy delay. That's what it looks like to me, all told.
Awesome card outside of these things. I haven't fully written it off for myself yet although I'm not in any super hurry, either.
That's just my two cents.
Anyone wanting to buy a Fermi just because it is made by nVidia should invest money in shares in the company that they love so much.
But well, if they want to buy something which is late on the scene, runs too hot & loud, offers only a marginal increase in performace over the competition for more money.... that's cool too, their loss.
But well, if they want to buy something which is late on the scene, runs too hot & loud, offers only a marginal increase in performace over the competition for more money.... that's cool too, their loss.
sure, glad to
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=16475&all=1
The GTX 480 is not DustBuster nor is it another "2900XT" (which i also had along with a 8800GTX/GTS640)
- this GF100 is more like if 2900XT had beat up on the 8800GTX in most of the benchmarks
Nvidia has a good foundation to build on
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