What mobo would you choose.

Discussion in 'Motherboards' started by RinkiDInk, Oct 22, 2018.

  1. RinkiDInk

    RinkiDInk n00bie

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    Gonna do a build around the 2700x. If you guys were gonna build one right now. What mobo would you choose? Assume money is not an issue.
     
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    hititnquitit Limp Gawd

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    ive been checking out the ASUS ROG Strix X470-F Gaming at microcenter. looks sweet and has everything i would need. also like the MSI X470 GAMING PRO CARBON and the gaming m7 ac. the asrock x470 taichi is on my short list. honestly just go with the mb that fits your scheme and comes from a solid manny. they are so similiar you really cant go wrong unless you get unlucky.
     
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  3. LiquidX

    LiquidX 2[H]4U

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    Was thinking of doing an AMD build a few days ago and kept coming back to the ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero if I went with a top tier mobo. Don't see how you can go wrong if cost is not an issue.
     
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  4. MrDeaf

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    Gigabyte: typical issues with dual bios bugging out, I would avoid
    MSI: doesn't have Vcore offset, which causes the CPU to run hot with PB2
    AsRock: meh BIOS
    Asus: crappy VRM heatsinks and RMA hell when it doesn't work

    whatever you choose, make sure you buy QVL RAM for your mobo, because Ryzen is very picky with RAM support.

    Personally, I have an Asus Strix X470-F, but if I had to do it again, I would buy MSI.

    2700X does all the overclocking for you, so unless you are going to do LN2, there's zero point in getting halo products.
    Just buy a board that has decent VRMs and use a good cooler.
     
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  5. DahlKen

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    Definitely make sure on the RAM as that is the most frustrating thing, to right off deal with RAM issues in a build.
     
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  6. Mchart

    Mchart 2[H]4U

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    I wanted to save a little money, but at the same time didn't want to completely cheap out. I settled on the MSI X470 gaming pro carbon myself. As far as I can tell from the reviews it's on par with the M7 benchmark wise, and honestly I don't see the point of the flagship boards unless you're doing serious overclocks. More importantly the carbon is one of the cheaper boards I found that supports SLI.

    I guess if money wasn't an issue i'd just get the flagship board from whatever my favorite manufacturer was, but me personally as I said, I think the middle tier product that gives you whatever features you feel are important to you at the best price is the best choice.
     
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  7. pavel

    pavel Limp Gawd

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    Can you elaborate? What is PB2? If one was going to run stock or try to OC a 2700 - is there any reason to go with one of those above - I mean, to choose one over the other? What's wrong with Asrock's BIOS?

    I have read about the MSI Vcore issue so I was concerned about that. But, many people say the MSI boards have pretty good VRM - especially the M7.

    I thought the Strix-F VRM heatsinks were okay. They're not? I do think they have an older BIOS version - it didn't look like the top tier Asus boards were using anything later than 1.0.0.2 whereas MSI and Gigabyte were using 1.0.0.4c. I think Asrock was up to there, too. What's up with that? I thought most would want 1.0.0.4c at least so they would have a better chance at memory/RAM compatibility and getting specified speeds out of non-Samsung b-die RAM?
     
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    PB2: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/04/30/amd_precision_boost_2_wraith_prism_deep_dive/

    2700 doesn't have PB2, so vcore offset doesn't matter, because you don't have to deal with PB2 being dumb and dumping 1.5V into Vcore.
    You typically want to use negative vcore offset to compensate for PB2 being dumb, but MSI doesn't have this as a feature.

    The VRM heatsinks on asus boards are garbage. Sure, they won't overheat with some air flow over it, but they are garbage nonetheless.

    Asrock bios needs more GUI maturity, as well as stop offering bios settings that do jack shit, because it's not supported.

    Go look at the RAM QVL, it's not hard.
     
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    So, is that a recommendation for a MSI board or? :) Which boards have decent VRM? I can look at the RAM QVL but I already bought RAM. :) I will see how it does first - it's Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz but it is hynix, unfortunately. Hopefully, it can at least get to the specified speeds.
     
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    Do you have a link to said aftermarket VRM heatsink for Asus Strix X470-F?
     
  12. Armenius

    Armenius [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Looking at the QVL for the motherboard you want before you buy will help you avoid issues getting your memory to run at its XMP. It's also best to cross-reference with the memory manufacturer's QVL. I can't tell you how annoying it is reading 1-star reviews for memory not hitting advertised speeds when people don't do their due diligence and look at the QVLs before buying.
     
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    I noticed lots of mobo manufacturers have listed their memory on the QVL but it's not a large enough sample. At any rate, I notice various Hynix chipset RAM on it - I am not too concerned about it but the question is, what speed will hynix RAM run at? I guess I will check the QVL when I look at various mobos - but, it is still just a guide.
     
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    Check out the X470 Crosshair or X470 Taichi, both really good choices. A bit more pricey than most but well worth it.
     
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    I think it also depends on the form factor - if it's an ATX board, I would narrow it down to the Taichi or the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7.
     
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  17. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?

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    If you update your bioses, you are far less likely to run into memory issues. Recent AGESA updates have boards running rated speeds/timings on memory that previously wasn't "compatible." It's just not as big of a deal as it was with Zen 1 / 3XX boards. I wouldn't go crazy or spend a lot of extra money looking for memory.

    And to the OP's question. I have run the Crosshair VII Hero without any issues for the past few months. Before that, I ran a B350-F Strix board and that was also fantastic. The B350 Prime and the X370 Prime Pro were very buggy (but also first gen boards). I also have an ASRock X370 board that works great. The biggest issue for me is finding out how each board configures NVMe and SATA when you use the M.2 slots. One board disabled the 2nd x16 slot so you couldn't use a second graphics card. Another disables SATA ports. It's in the fine print.
     
  18. pc_elitist

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    If you're in the x470 market, I've had great luck with the ASUS Prime Pro AM4 Series.