What is wrong with Rivatuner Author ?

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I mean, is kissing his ass a good job? Is this an isolated incident? No. You're not convincing anyone. It's out in the open. He acts like a dick. Period.



And to alg7_munif, I'm sorry, but are you, say dyslexic? Because, the OP already clearly stated in the OP that the problem was that RT needs the signed drivers for Vista x64 (RivaTuner220Drv.rtu file) which is NOT included with RT. Guru3D simply added it to the zip file containing RT's installer. What's the bloody point of mirrors then?!

It was a valid question, and if that jerk was half as smart as he boasts to be he would've bundled that fucking file in RT's installer!



And I feel sorry for you. All this kissing ass, is it leading you somewhere? Or you just do it like a sport? If he was your boss or such I'd understand but... Well, to each his own I guess.

Seriously I could say the same thing about you. By taking the OP's side your essentially kissing the OP's ass I guess. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm not the one throwing a childish tantrum because I couldn't get Rivatuner installed on Vista 64. Never had an issue with Rivatuner on vista 64...and that's not me kissing ass...that's just a testament to how solid a program Rivatuner is. ;)
 
Hell, I'd ban you too.
Too many people ignore the search function on forums and think everyone owes them something.
Tell me, what have you contributed to the community? except your rant and your "you owe me support" attitude?
It's the same all over the world, even free isn't good enough.
 
1st of all, that link is to a workaround. The OP's clearly stated, in his post there, that RT installer never asked him to install any plugin as he didn't had any because the file with the signed drivers isn't bundled within the installer itself. And as the mirrors only have the installer itself... well, 2+2=?

2nd, as the OP clearly stated that, I don't know, maybe instead of being the dick he was by calling him a "beginner who can't even install RT properly" he could've, again I don't know, try asking him if he had said file? Oh I guess it never crossed his mind, being his software the pinnacle of perfection :rolleyes:

3rd, "So the deal is pretty simple: fail to install it - use something more simple. Thread closed."

As opposed to not being a dick and saying "Give me some more details so we can help you better" or "I suck so much that I can't even include a simple file within the installer itself and/or write a disclaimer stating that you need said file if you use Vista x64" ?
Look in my last post what I found in the link posted in the 4th post. Btw I also like big yellow text if you missed it.

Unwinder on Guru3D said:
Unreal, unless you downloaded some third party RT distributive or manually moved installer file to custom folder and forgot to copy the update (*.RTU) file there. Installer automatically offers you to install all updates located in the same folder and Guru3D always distribute RT with an update containing a driver signed by techpowerup.
 
Seriously I could say the same thing about you. By taking the OP's side your essentially kissing the OP's ass I guess. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm not the one throwing a childish tantrum because I couldn't get Rivatuner installed on Vista 64. Never had an issue with Rivatuner on vista 64...and that's not me kissing ass...that's just a testament to how solid a program Rivatuner is. ;)

Let's do an experiment. Remove the file RivaTuner220Drv.rtu from your computer, then try to install RT on Vista x64. Oh wait, I guess RT needs that file! Hmm... and is that file included with RT? Oops, again, no. It comes inside Guru3D's zip file. What's the point of mirrors then? Again?

Was that simple enough for you? Or do you need a picture to compreehend it? Because it seems it's just not getting through to you.


OK, let's try again. He downloads RT from mirror. Mirror only has installer. RT needs extra file. Extra file is not there. OP cannot install RT. OP knows how to install RT but OP does not have needed file. RT maker calls him a dumb noob. The End.

Simple enough for you?


Oh, and being angry for being banned just because that guy is a dick is hardly a "childish tantrum" but again, whatever.
 
Look in my last post what I found in the link posted in the 4th post. Btw I also like big yellow text if you missed it.

If you read the title and content of the OP of any thread and you realise it doesn't concern/interest you, do you keep on reading? I sure wouldn't. So that's pretty far fetched, but whatever.

Keep worshiping your gods. Thankfully he is the minority and most developers are really friendly. Including some that get asked really stupid questions, all the time.


So I'm sorry alg7_munif but that doesn't give him an excuse for being a jerk much less ban him.
 
If you read the title and content of the OP of any thread and you realise it doesn't concern/interest you, do you keep on reading? I sure wouldn't. So that's pretty far fetched, but whatever.

Keep worshiping your gods. Thankfully he is the minority and most developers are really friendly. Including some that get asked really stupid questions, all the time.


So I'm sorry alg7_munif but that doesn't give him an excuse for being a jerk much less ban him.

Yeah, I guess that it is much easier to have someone point things to you with a big yellow text instead of following a link and read it through. Btw he was banned because he was bashing him here. The Unwinder guy was right, if you can't even follow a link then you are better off with the EVGA Precision.
 
The guy is a dick. He writes good software, but he thinks we should all bow before him and polish his knob because of it.

He has trolled around NVnews forums looking for people who badmouth him or his software a number of times. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up here to do the same thing.

Seriously if this allegation is true...lol
 
I would have banned him too. 3rd forum bitching about other people is just chicken shit, it's part of the forum threads about other forums threads is lame group. Time to start manning up or go through life being known as a backstabber bitch.

Unwinder can be a pain in the arse but really not that much different then a good share of how Linux experts are.



His satement in the post where Wolf got banned pretty much sums it up.
If you were not that blind, you could find the same info, which "I don't know" according to your POV, in the link provided by burebista in the post #4.
Take your reading lessons and say bye to this forum, it is not for agressive beginners.


EDIT: 5 bucks says Wolf still uses the guy's software even after all this happened.
 
Just my own $.02 here...

*Sometimes, it's faster to just ask in forums, due to the fact that someone might know something right off-hand that's helpful, especially if it's the author of the software.

*Also, even when searching for something, sometimes you might want or even need clarification on something that isn't totally clear.

There's never a reason to be condescending, insulting etc. unless it's really warranted. Unfortunately, there are far too many people in the world who are conceited, and/or purposely angry, miserable and judgmental, and their attitudes reflect such.

Let the kid ask his damn question (the OP) without giving him a hard time. It's not necessary to be a pompous ass just because you have some giant, yet fragile, ego or are lacking in maturity.
 
I feel sorry for the author, this is really going to hurt Rivatuner Sales...:p

EDIT: 5 bucks says Wolf still uses the guy's software even after all this happened.

I have nothing against RT, just against the author. I already said that in my OP first line. I am not advising anyone to boycott RT.

Yeah I missed the 4th post and asked him a question. Is that a reason to be insulted ?

Ok then I followed the 4th post and figured out the problem, and sent him a PM saying the .rtu installer file was needed, that is why i couldn;t get the update plugins dialog.

Is that a reason enough for a BAN ?




I can tell this poster is a man of ethical fortitude, himself. :eek:


What does that mean ? :confused:
 
I have nothing against RT, just against the author. I already said that in my OP first line. I am not advising anyone to boycott RT.

Yeah I missed the 4th post and asked him a question. Is that a reason to be insulted ?

Ok then I followed the 4th post and figured out the problem, and sent him a PM saying the .rtu installer file was needed, that is why i couldn;t get the update plugins dialog.

Is that a reason enough for a BAN ?







What does that mean ? :confused:

The reason you are banned is because you are bad mouthing him in another forum, not because you asked a question.
 
The reason you are banned is because you are bad mouthing him in another forum, not because you asked a question.

you may call it bad mouthing, but I'm just telling the community not to expect too much of a support
 
You should also tell them to research first and to read other posts first before asking the same question again. Also tell the community not to insult people in the back when they refuse to help, especially when someone else already gave a link. ;)
 
You should also tell them to research first and to read other posts first before asking the same question again. Also tell the community not to insult people in the back when they refuse to help, especially when someone else already gave a link. ;)

i'm not insulting him
 
Not sure what the OP is trying to achieve in this thread. If he hates the author so much
then don't use the program. Don't start a smear campaign against the the author. If
anything you should be thanking him for letting you use his program for free.
 
The guy is a dick. He writes good software, but he thinks we should all bow before him and polish his knob because of it.

He has trolled around NVnews forums looking for people who badmouth him or his software a number of times. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up here to do the same thing.
Most people at nvnews are dicks. There's a few exceptions, but unwinder is far more civil than 90% of them are imo, at least.

Well RivaTuner is free so he doesn't even need to provide support. It's a gift to the community. He probably gets hundreds of emails from n00bs who can't install the program or wonder why they get artifacts and lockups when they overclock their GPU to 950 MHz.
I agree 100% =] If I don't get/have problems with using it, then I really don't think anyone should. According to most people I know less than they do about everything. Plus like you say, it's not only free, he doesn't even ask for donations. I'd give him donations, if he accepted them.
 
I have nothing against RT, just against the author. I already said that in my OP first line. I am not advising anyone to boycott RT.

I'm boycotting RT!!!!!:D
 
0wned. haha.

You get what you pay for I guess.

btw... what's the problem you're having?

To the OP... it was your own fault. USER error and you came off as or pretending to be a "knowledgeable user". Maybe his comments weren't deserved, but you don't need to bring it here.
 
I can tell this poster is a man of ethical fortitude, himself. :eek:

LOL, it was just a colorful way of saying if you can't say it to their face, don't say it at all.

With all these sites where users can anonymously trash other people, this type of behavior is getting out of hand. The OP came here, had a problem with a person from a forum post on another forum, and is shocked when he trashed talked him here that he was banned there and asked to not be part of the community over there.
 
LOL, it was just a colorful way of saying if you can't say it to their face, don't say it at all.

With all these sites where users can anonymously trash other people, this type of behavior is getting out of hand. The OP came here, had a problem with a person from a forum post on another forum, and is shocked when he trashed talked him here that he was banned there and asked to not be part of the community over there.

not really, i told it to his face that he should provide support for his soft.

i agree i missed the link on post 4, that did not warrant the way he talked. anybody can make mistakes
 
not really, i told it to his face that he should provide support for his soft.

i agree i missed the link on post 4, that did not warrant the way he talked. anybody can make mistakes

Typically, free software doesn't come with support. I can't even believe you got a reply, so I guess you are lucky in that respect. For me, freeware works like this - if it works, great. If it doesn't, either I don't use it or I fix it myself.
 
I find it kinda ridiculous he gets banned for saying something bad about the RT author on another site...a bit extreme maybe...
 
not really, i told it to his face that he should provide support for his soft.

i agree i missed the link on post 4, that did not warrant the way he talked. anybody can make mistakes

Yea, so that You can start a thread elsewhere in which You can tell everyone that unwinder is arrogant bla..bla..bla to make up something for Your own mistake that You'd admit later after all? :rolleyes:
 
You shouldn't go around to all the tech sites blasting freeware authors, especially if their stuff is good and widely used by the same community. The end result is that the coder(s) feel like their contribution is unappreciated and stop giving to the community. It's happened many countless of times. Remember - it's FREE to you and it's their time and effort. I think we can be a little more forgiving in the future.
 
So you got treated a little unfairly. But it appears that you got banned because you were trashing the author not only on this forum but at least one other. So, the author might have overreacted a bit by closing the thread but how does it look on you when you post in multiple forums with titles such as "what is wrong with rivatuner author"?

Sorry man, you get no sympathy from me. The author in question is the maker of one hell of a free software that is used by god knows how many. I'm sure he has received tons of questions over the past several years that rivatuner has been around and perhaps he has gotten a bit tired of answering such questions. I would be too, especially when the answer was already provided for or when it's only a few "searches" away from finding it yourself.

Rivatuner is a freeware that this author has put in much of his time creating then refining it. I am glad that he shares this program with the community at no cost. I hope he continues to do so and does not let posts like this leave such a bad taste in his mouth that he stops contributing.
 
This is the same shit that made the creator of Proximitron quit and never do freeware again.
 
Is it just me, or did anyone else find this thread quite hilarious and entertaining?

Hats off to all of you guys for creating a good argument.
 
Really, how many of us that downloaded his program actually thanked the guy for creating such a kickass software that he shares for free?

I haven't and I've been using it for some time. I'm currently using it and have used it for both nvidia and ati cards.

What I won't do is trash the guy just because he didn't live up to my expectations of what "freeware support" is supposed be.

Since, I haven't said it yet, I might as well say it now.

Thanks Rivatuner author for sharing this awesome program!

Ok, I'm done writing, lol. And yes, this has been pretty entertaining to read. :D
Gotta love forum soaps.
 
you may call it bad mouthing, but I'm just telling the community not to expect too much of a support

I think the EVGA/Precision community would disagree with that assessment. Unwinder is definitely opinionated but he also provides exceptionally knowledgeable and detailed support for his software.
 
Russian men have long been known for their immodest apathy, just like Americans are known for their self-serving ignorance. :)
 
I find it kinda ridiculous he gets banned for saying something bad about the RT author on another site...a bit extreme maybe...
Disagree. Forums are difficult enough to moderate without such slanderous nonsense as this, so if an administrator there felt that he'd be a continual problem (which he seems to be -- I'd probably ban him here, too, just to avoid future incidents), he'd be gone.

RivaTuner kicks ass. If you can't get it running without e-mailing Unwinder, regardless of the reasoning, you certainly have no business tinkering with computers.

 
anyone who gets banned by unwinder deserves it.

there are well-detailed guides and forum search functions for a reason. use them. his software works wonders and major flaws do not go unnoticed/unpatched... if you're having some obscure problem that isn't well documented, the problem is likely on your end. do some real research (which potentially includes alot of reading... i know that's a painful prospect for the 'i want it to work now and you should do the work for me' generation).

if you can't figure out how to use rivatuner by employing the aforementioned methods, you really shouldn't be using it.
 
I just stumbled on wolf's thread at the RT forums...so yeah, the allegations were true. That is unbelievably sad.

It's one thing to defend your own turf, but to go Googling and following a user posting on other forums? That's getting a bit creepy and scary to be honest.
 
It's one thing to defend your own turf, but to go Googling and following a user posting on other forums? That's getting a bit creepy and scary to be honest.

Is it less creepy then going to other forums to trash talk someone behind their back?
 
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