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What is up with this?

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runt

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ok, i have a p3 800 and a p3 1ghz folding full time (boxen-ii and boxen-iii respectively). i looked in em3 tonight and was greated with the following.
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anyone else getting wu's like this?
 
what scares me is that one of them is running a gromacs core, it better not have a time limit less than what the computer will require to finish it.
 
I figured that that was just because they were Intel Inside!

:p
 
But really, hope they are churning faster than that. I've got a slow Gromacs right now (it is running at 2.2GHz AMD) that will take 35 hours total but it is at least giving me 316 points. Good luck man.
 
Hito Bahadur said:
But really, hope they are churning faster than that. I've got a slow Gromacs right now (it is running at 2.2GHz AMD) that will take 35 hours total but it is at least giving me 316 points. Good luck man.
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the tinker i don't mind taking so long since they are normally no time limit now days, the gromacs does worry me a lot though
 
95% of what I get is Tinker, and they seem to be consistent in duration (for me they usually take 32-38 hours depending on the system)...That does seem like a long time though (but I don't have a CPU similiar to compare it to).
 
I have that exact same WU (the top one) running on my 800MHz P3.:p

I've only got 153 frames to finish it though. I got it just the other day. Hasn't taken as long as some of the Gromacs I've had.
 
runt said:
the tinker i don't mind taking so long since they are normally no time limit now days, the gromacs does worry me a lot though
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Here is a link to the info you seek. Looks like it will be ok. 44 days is the preferred timeline and 64 days is the final. 2nd from the bottom on the linked page will show you.
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/psummary.html
Keep on folding!

u_Mayhem33
 
Hito Bahadur said:
95% of what I get is Tinker, and they seem to be consistent in duration (for me they usually take 32-38 hours depending on the system)...That does seem like a long time though (but I don't have a CPU similiar to compare it to).
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Your progress is normal for that tinker. Tinker cores run purely on cpu power, there are no optimazations for that type of project.

u_Mayhem33
 
I'm wondering why his Gromacs Core only gets 230 points, when mine is gett 316 (P1310) even though mine has a shorter deadline.
 
Sorry, I dont understad the logic in the point assignment either.
Supposed to be according to how many atoms are in the project and complexity.
But in my mind the time should scale accordinly as well. :rolleyes:

Thats why I just fold and dont worry about it too much. :D

u_Mayhem33
 
i'm thinking of switching the work from my athlon xp "2700+" and my p3 1ghz around, is it actually possible to do that?
 
I've done it, but only with "similar" processors. For that, it is as easy as copying the whole folding directory over to the new computer. I'm not certain in your case.
 
Hito Bahadur said:
I've done it, but only with "similar" processors. For that, it is as easy as copying the whole folding directory over to the new computer. I'm not certain in your case.
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then i won't try it. i just used a calculator and it should finish in time (plenty of time actually)
 
dont worrie runt, I got a Wu today " Tinker-in-water" ( ZUH?) 39 days to complete, After running it for 6 hours on one of my borged work boxen ( P4 ) it said that it should be done In 7 days. So I got pissesd and went to lunch, when I came back it said 1.5 days/ i think as time goes on with those chewy WUs the frame rates get quicker. ;)
 
boxen-ii is folding ok.
boxen-iii looks like its folding at half/ quarter speed.
Check you're SSE boost if the times dont improve above 230 hours for that work unit.

Luck........ :D
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I was wondering about the time needed on the PIII with the Gromacs. It should not take that long to finish it unless the system is being used for something else. I've gotten a 277 point Gromac on my PIII 700 at work and didn't take anywhere near that long to complete. I'd check that box out to see if there is anything wrong. It does not look right.
 
SmokeRngs said:
I was wondering about the time needed on the PIII with the Gromacs. It should not take that long to finish it unless the system is being used for something else. I've gotten a 277 point Gromac on my PIII 700 at work and didn't take anywhere near that long to complete. I'd check that box out to see if there is anything wrong. It does not look right.
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it runs vnc and thats all the other programs it runs. i will restart it to see if that helps though.
 
runt said:
i'm thinking of switching the work from my athlon xp "2700+" and my p3 1ghz around, is it actually possible to do that?
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Absolutely no problem at all. Just be sure that the machine number is correct when you restart on the new machine if you run more than 1 instance. (use -config or -configonly flag to ensure machine number)

I've done it many times from 94 to xp-m and back again.
 
Hito Bahadur said:
I'm wondering why his Gromacs Core only gets 230 points, when mine is gett 316 (P1310) even though mine has a shorter deadline.
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The p13xx series are the "large" work units. They are large in that they use substantial amounts of ram. They are considered by pandegroup as being extermely valuable from a science point of view. Vijay has announced how excited they are regarding them.

Typically they utilise 150-180 mb of ram.

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=9104
 
Tigerbiten said:
boxen-ii is folding ok.
boxen-iii looks like its folding at half/ quarter speed.
Check you're SSE boost if the times dont improve above 230 hours for that work unit.

Luck........ :D
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i just added -forceasm to the service in firedaemon, hopefully it will improve speeds. although every other wu has had decent speeds in them. but as long as it finishes within the required time limit i don't really care right now.
 
ezee said:
The p13xx series are the "large" work units. They are large in that they use substantial amounts of ram. They are considered by pandegroup as being extermely valuable from a science point of view. Vijay has announced how excited they are regarding them.

Typically they utilise 150-180 mb of ram.

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=9104
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Noted, changed the big dog's config to allow "Big WU" (looks like something from a Jackie Chan flick). :D

We'll see what this machine can really do when the crunch comes down! :eek:
 
after adding -forceasm its down to 65 hours to complete it, sounds much better to me :D
 
ezee said:
The p13xx series are the "large" work units. They are large in that they use substantial amounts of ram. They are considered by pandegroup as being extermely valuable from a science point of view. Vijay has announced how excited they are regarding them.

Typically they utilise 150-180 mb of ram.

http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=9104
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It thrills me to no end that “V Jay” is excited about his project. Common sense would dictate that those units go to machines that always run 24/7 and are powerful enough to complete them in some reasonable time.

Instead, many of them end up on machines that have to be shut down daily and as such have a much greater chance of not finishing because of deadlines or just plain erroring out due to many restarts. Add to that the corporate machines that are re-imaged on a regular basis thus losing all data at the same time. As a result of that those same WU’s get recycled again, and again adding a massive amount of inefficiency to the whole project.

This inefficiency costs us, the providers, not V Jay. A little tweaking of the system at Stanford would go a long way toward more people wanting to participate and possibly stick with the project longer.

This whole project has grown way beyond what it was and there comes a time to reevaluate how things are done.

In my opinion V Jay and crew take way too much for granted and they do not make the best use of the free resources we provide.
 
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