SilverSliver
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Piracy is an excuse for developers making second rate games to point fingers at and say "look, evil pirates made the game fail!!! It was all them!!"
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PC Gaming is doing just fine. Didn't you hear ? A group of crappy developers just decided to prioritize console development. You knew them as Epic. One group of retards less, to ruin PC games with console ports.
And I'm being serious. No sarcasm at all. PC Gaming started to be less appealing, ever since developers started to gives us console ports. So one less company that does that, is good news for PC Gamers.
I agree...Epic used to be well...epic...but now, they will be forever remembered for UT3 (what a disapointment) and GOW (lol).
The problem with GoW, was when it came out on PC it was a broken piece of shit. Bugs bugs bugs bugs bugs bugs and more bugs. It still doesn't even work for me, at all.
heh, being remembered for GOW on console isn't anything to laugh at, that game sold millions of copies and is a huge success for epic. So UT3 was a flop. Seems as though epic should just stick to console games and not worry about pleasing us ungrateful PC gamers and maybe they'll release another quality release like GOW
heh, being remembered for GOW on console isn't anything to laugh at, that game sold millions of copies and is a huge success for epic. So UT3 was a flop. Seems as though epic should just stick to console games and not worry about pleasing us ungrateful PC gamers and maybe they'll release another quality release like GOW
yep, its a half-assed port. And we are making it clear to them that half-ass pc ports won't fly with us and they won't see our money because of it. However this also means they'll eventually just stop trying altogether. This is one reason I'm getting a console soon.
Well GTA4 is another reason. I'm not going to take a chance(as well as wait for months) and find out that the PC port of GTA4 is crap. Sure they've been solid in the past, but in the past PC wasn't so low on publishers priorities.
If they do stop altogether, I say, YES! AT LAST! A company that does what Epic did, has the nerve to advertise UT3, a PC franchise, with "From the creators of Gears of War" (at the time, a console only title), prioritizes console development, while being part of the PC Gaming Alliance, is nothing short of retarded.
I say good riddance. You can't develop anything more than a console game, then PLEASE stay out of the PC Gaming scene.
If they do stop altogether, I say, YES! AT LAST! A company that does what Epic did, has the nerve to advertise UT3, a PC franchise, with "From the creators of Gears of War" (at the time, a console only title), prioritizes console development, while being part of the PC Gaming Alliance, is nothing short of retarded.
I say good riddance. You can't develop anything more than a console game, then PLEASE stay out of the PC Gaming scene.
If they do stop altogether, I say, YES! AT LAST! A company that does what Epic did, has the nerve to advertise UT3, a PC franchise, with "From the creators of Gears of War" (at the time, a console only title), prioritizes console development, while being part of the PC Gaming Alliance, is nothing short of retarded.
I say good riddance. You can't develop anything more than a console game, then PLEASE stay out of the PC Gaming scene.
Whats nice about a console is its almost all different types of games. You play your FPS and MMO games on the PC while you can play games like rock band and sports games on a console. Right now I'm loving TF2 for my PC and ea skate on my PS3.
A self administered vasectomy kit should come with all sports games.And you can't play sports games on PCs?
And you can't play sports games on PCs?
I must have missed Skate coming out for PC? Or for that matter, any decent racing game that isn't rally or Need for Speed underground street racing fluff.
I will never understand the blind console hatred around these parts.
Ungrateful ? Maybe you missed the sarcasm smiley, but Epic IS the ungrateful one. I don't know...we just bought their games for years and made them what they are today. Maybe PC Gamers deserved more respect, than to receive crappy console ports, especially from a game that started as a successful PC franchise ?
Just a thought...
they are a COMPANY, they will do what they can to make money, bottom line. Console games are where the money is so that's where epic going to be. They don't owe you anything. And Obviously they don't seem to prioritize making quality PC games anymore.
Epic clearly stated it won't be developing any technology for the PC untill 2011 give or take. The unreal engine from here on then will be designed exclusively for consoles.
Hmmm, Well, the end of human existence is going to happen in 2012. Epic only going to have 1 year to make a game and profit from it.
HEHEHEHE!!!!!!
And what should have UT3 been? if it was more like UT people would complain that its more of the old. if it was too many new concepts, people would say its been consolized. What UT3 should have been is a new IP, at least then you don't have the impossible-to-please lovers of the previous versions of the game.
ugh. im arguing about the state of PC gaming, what a waste. its a sign of the times. years ago when we had multitudes of fresh PC games, this topic didn't even cross our minds. now look at what we've become!
heh, being remembered for GOW on console isn't anything to laugh at, that game sold millions of copies and is a huge success for epic. So UT3 was a flop. Seems as though epic should just stick to console games and not worry about pleasing us ungrateful PC gamers and maybe they'll release another quality release like GOW
Whats nice about a console is its almost all different types of games. You play your FPS and MMO games on the PC while you can play games like rock band and sports games on a console. Right now I'm loving TF2 for my PC and ea skate on my PS3.
Ummmm, how are we being ungrateful? Because we don't kiss their asses about everything they do...? They started on PC and have made award winning multi-million sellers on PC primary. They should stick with PC mainly and port the games to consoles. NOT the other way around.
maybe you missed the fact that epic is a company? It's funny because you talk as if epic is a person that stabbed you in the back, and you're getting all emotional about it. stop pms'ing and come back to reality.
they are a COMPANY, they will do what they can to make money, bottom line. Console games are where the money is so that's where epic going to be. They don't owe you anything. And Obviously they don't seem to prioritize making quality PC games anymore. Oh well. Move on. Some great games can only be experienced on the console, this is how its been and this is going to be how it is in the future. Hold onto your elitism if you wish, but you'll be missing out on some great games.
maybe you missed the fact that epic is a company? It's funny because you talk as if epic is a person that stabbed you in the back, and you're getting all emotional about it. stop pms'ing and come back to reality. they are a COMPANY, they will do what they can to make money, bottom line.
Does no one value putting your loyal customers first anymore...? I also run a business, and would never dream of f**king over the people that made me what I am. If I wasn't making enough money, I would expand on my target consumers and cater to them as well, but I would NEVER leave the people that made my company what it is high and dry. Epic has left us PC gamers high and dry, and that is not cool. I am so sick of this mentality that greed comes before everything, does no one have integrity anymore? I'm sorry but Epic f**king over the millions of loyal PC fans that made them who they are is bullsh*t.
maybe you missed the fact that epic is a company? It's funny because you talk as if epic is a person that stabbed you in the back, and you're getting all emotional about it. stop pms'ing and come back to reality.
they are a COMPANY, they will do what they can to make money, bottom line. Console games are where the money is so that's where epic going to be. They don't owe you anything. And Obviously they don't seem to prioritize making quality PC games anymore. Oh well. Move on. Some great games can only be experienced on the console, this is how its been and this is going to be how it is in the future. Hold onto your elitism if you wish, but you'll be missing out on some great games.
I've read you commenting over and over again about it's retarded for Epic to be part of the PC gaming alliance........why?
I mean they are pushing for more standardization of hardware. What?! You're so objecting that ANY company is coming out and saying "Stop using those stupid intel integrated graphics cards that can't do anything for a game?" Bad epic bad! We want shitting cards!
The nerve to advertise UT3 "From the people creators of Gears of War" OMG no way? You mean PS3 users or ANY new gamers can't possibly not be informed of that info? I mean movies do it all the time. I mean no one advertises their games like that!
Gears of War a buggy piece of shit for PC? Huh..funny I beat it twice now. And granted I had the game lose my saved game file once but...buggy piece of shit...hmm...The bugs I've experienced are the same for many other pc games. I guess ALL pc gaming is a buggy piece of shit then? Oh except Doom 3 which pretty much was mocked. First time I can really recall a pc game having hardly any bugs.
BTW. Epic made ENGINES used in tons of games. Many pc developers used that engine. They are a small company and made pretty much JUST unreal tournament games. Gears is pretty much their first new IP in ages. And you know, the game published by MS to help move xbox consoles.
Does no one value putting your loyal customers first anymore...? I also run a business, and would never dream of f**king over the people that made me what I am. If I wasn't making enough money, I would expand on my target consumers and cater to them as well, but I would NEVER leave the people that made my company what it is high and dry. Epic has left us PC gamers high and dry, and that is not cool. I am so sick of this mentality that greed comes before everything, does no one have integrity anymore? I'm sorry but Epic f**king over the millions of loyal PC fans that made them who they are is bullsh*t.
childish. But away. apparently you're not following the massive amount of bugs in 90% of pc games that aren't ports that are strictly exclusive for PCs. I stated it's no buggier than the crap made exclusively for pc. By your own argument, if PC developers can't make their own shit, maybe pc gaming should die period because most of it is bug ridden.LOL, do you follow these tech news and game development much or is this your first time ?
Because to say that "It's not a buggy piece of shit, because I didn't have any bugs" is, well, naive, to put it nicely...
I know it's a console port. But you seem to have a problem with it...because it's a console port? ok!Anyway, I didn't even complain about bugs, so don't know why you quoted me and then proceeded to talk about bugs. I complained about it being a console port, which it most obviously is one.
About advertising, yes the "nerve". Again, we are PC Gamers, we want our games to be, well, PC Games, not console ports. Advertising a game (that started as a PC franchise anyway), with "From the makers of Gears of War", is retarded, because it clearly sends out the message that it's a console game, first and foremost. So why did they complain about PC sales, when in fact they shot themselves in the foot, with publicity EXCLUSIVELY to consoles ? That's one.
The other is obviously the fact that they didn't care about their loyal fans. They just ditched them quickly and even put all the blame on them. That's retarded and all I'll do is simply not support their games anymore. They should stick with making engines only, since they don't know how to make games anymore. I was disappointed with the UE3 anyway. Blurry mess with no native AA support, in 2007-2008 ?...
childish. But away. apparently you're not following the massive amount of bugs in 90% of pc games that aren't ports that are strictly exclusive for PCs. I stated it's no buggier than the crap made exclusively for pc. By your own argument, if PC developers can't make their own shit, maybe pc gaming should die period because most of it is bug ridden.
Netrat33 said:I know it's a console port. But you seem to have a problem with it...because it's a console port? ok!
Netrat33 said:Ya they made a ton of engines that pc developers used and now the focus is making the new engine for consoles as a priority. Sounds like a pretty big loss. You nitpicking about advertising is weak because it's just that...nitpicking. I never cared about UT games or multiplayer only games. I didnt follow UT and part 3 was my first stab at buying one. I liked it, but some reason no one else did. I gave UT3 a chance only because I did like Gears so much *shrug* whatever. They didn't market to YOU so your pissed. Forget the masses and trying to get more of an audience.
Netrat33 said:I was disappointed with UE3 anway" Sounds like a "I never like her anyway! I dumped her not the other way around!!"
know it's a console port. But you seem to have a problem with it...because it's a console port? ok!
Can you understand the simple fact that console to PC ports = less quality in the PC Game ?
Or is that too hard for you to understand ?Yes, I complain BECAUSE it is a console port and thus quality goes down the drain. If you're ok with it, fine. Go ahead and buy everything they do. I'm sure they'll appreciate it and continue to do the same along the road. I'm not happy with it, so I don't buy their crappy console ports. It's my only way to show I'm not happy with it.
Gears of War on 360 probably sold 4 times as much as ANY of their PC games ever did... I don't really blame them for going 360 primarily, and I think anyone with any sort of business sense would either.
The last number I saw was GoW for the 360 selling over 4 million copies in its lifetime, and I've started to see recent reports saying this number is now over 5 million... I don't remember any Unreal Tournament coming close to that number.