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What is it about BFG ?

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I'm not hating or trying to start an argument. I genuinely want to know...

Why is everybody so in love with BFG cards (specifically the 6600gt OC's)?

I would understand if it was mostly because of the lifetime warranty. That's a great feature and definitley a selling point. But people talk all the time about the fact that it's overclocked out of the box like that is the major appeal. This is my problem. The out of the box OC on these cards is nothing spectacular, and just about everyone who has OC'ed cards from different manufacturers has beaten it by a considerable amount. ( http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=849675 ) I can't see how the small performance gain you get from the small stock OC makes this card worth $50 more than any of the others. They all seem to top out in the same general range anyway when OC'ed manually.

Opinions?






u_95244
 
look at the card - it looks like its made with pure quality.

plus i hear BFGs customer service is the best.
 
their cards are cheaper than the non-o/ced cards .. which is definitely a good thing

You can never say no to lifetime warranty plus their excellent customer service .. from what I heard ofcourse ... I have no idea myself :p
 
it's a lack of knowledge. People hype the "OC'd, right out of the box." Download coolbits for christ sakes. Then any nvidia card can be "OC'd, thirty seconds out of the box."

the lifetime warranty is great. But anyone willing to spend $250 on a BFG 6600gt when about 8 other brands can be had for $200 is a sucker.
 
option141 said:
look at the card - it looks like its made with pure quality.

plus i hear BFGs customer service is the best.

Agreed it does look good; especially when turned on, but 50 more bucks?!
 
I got BFG 6600GT's and they're great. Copper heat sink is a plus, but I actually don't give two rats wether or not they came overclocked, for me it was the dual DVI per card. I have a couple of 172x TFT's and i hated running one of analouge for the last year.. though for now SLI only suppports 1 monitor so that's kind of annoying 'cause i have SLI turned off most of the time.. though for my current games it doesn't really matter.

Anyway they overclock well and have got me 7008 3d 05 marks.. And while i'm pretty sure i could get the same with numerous other brand 6600GT's i like the ones i've got.
 
I bought mine because of the quality, Lifetime Warranty and the Great Customer Service. Plus its the only one my local BB had in stock. I hate waiting for shipping.
 
Lifetime warranty
Made in the good old USA
Pre-overclocked (eVGA also has this, but only has a 3 year warranty)
 
lifetime warrnty to be exact. the extra overclock is a nice little bonus but you can do it with coolbits. its too bad they didnt mount the artic cooler 5 on there as well. the current defualt cooling is subpar imo.
 
BLenderhedd said:
??? They are avg. $50 MORE than non oc'ed cards.

u_95244
not where I bought mine at bestbuy. Hey, it had nothing to do with the waranty or being pre-overclocked, but it just is better. I don't see what the issue is. Why buy a MSI over an Asus? its just preference
 
For those expensive purchases, I always buy the replacement warranty. At least I know that my VC is covered and will be replaced with an equally top of the line card.
 
Its noob madness.

They ARE faster than other STOCK cards. Though any person with a slight clue can download and use coolbits. PROBLEM is MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO CLUE.

The cards are the SAME as every other card out there (quality wise),
they just slightly OC their cards by default which is VERY smart. B/c all cards have a certain amount of headroom in them. They're just taking advantage of the headroom, like us SMART overclockers have been doing for ages.

Their lifetime warranty is more gimmick marketing than anything. B/c how long does the average gamer keep a card? not that long!!

But they do have great customer service from WHAT I'VE HEARD.

Never had to use customer service on any of my videocards:
Visiontek GeForce256 SDR
Leadtek GF2 GTS
Leadtek GF4 ti4600
eVGA GF FX5900 nu
PNY 6800nu
PNY 6800GT

As you can see I'm an nV whore.
 
i really have no idea why the lifetime warranty is such a big deal. The technology is moving so fast vid cards become obsolete after a few years.

I stick with asus cards because every single one ive owned has overclocked very very well, like my 5900 that does 100mhz over the stock core speed, my ti4200 that did 75 over stock core
 
Don't forget how good their RMAs are. I've heard of several people who sent in a card and got an upgraded card back. One person sent in a GeForece 4 TIsomething and got back a 5900xt. Apparently that wasn't a one of a kind case either.
 
nVidiaGuru said:
i really have no idea why the lifetime warranty is such a big deal. The technology is moving so fast vid cards become obsolete after a few years.

I stick with asus cards because every single one ive owned has overclocked very very well, like my 5900 that does 100mhz over the stock core speed, my ti4200 that did 75 over stock core
Because some people don't buy cards everytime a new gen comes out. I'll also put my current card into my second system when I do buy a new one. The card I have in my system will be ideal in a backup system in a couple years. Hence where the lifetime warranty comes into place.
 
302efi said:
HAHA ..You really have no idea where it is made, do you ??


they have 100% USA customer service thats reason enough to pay xtra money.

not having to talk to a overseas moron makes it worth the cash to me
 
dajet24 said:
they have 100% USA customer service thats reason enough to pay xtra money.

not having to talk to a overseas moron makes it worth the cash to me

I didn't know people gettin paid low wages and that are told what to say and do are morons ...

That could be you ... or wait is that what Sony and other Japanese companies think of Americans ?

I believe people like you make Americans look bad. "Proud to be American" Oppressors
 
I bought my BFG 6800gt mostly because of the warranty/customer service. Guys from BFG actually post/read here and ask opinions on making their product the product of choice. That's what separates them from the rest.

I had an old ti4200 that the fan died on, I called them up and within 10mins I was set up to send the ti4200 back and they would ship me a 5900se!! Another time I sent back a GF4 mx and they sent me a ti4200 as a replacement. No need for receipt and no questions asked.

I have heard of many cases on forums of others getting the same treatment. So I don't think luck played a part.

Seems like a no-brainer.
 
got mine cuz it was used for only 3 weeks and the guy wanted to go pcie and dual ultras
 
Yup, I know there is another member of this board that sent in a 5950 Ultra and got a 6800 GT back. IMO, spending $250 on a BFG 6600GT OC is a pretty good waste when you can get the BFG 6800 OC for the same price at outpost.com. But anyways, BFG is the only one with a true lifetime warranty. If you read the fine print of other warranties they usually only will warranty for the product cycle that that card is sold. Such as PNY:

"Lifetime Replacement warranty does not cover items out of production if PNY no longer stocks them. (Lifetime is defined as the lifetime of the product on the market. Outdated technology is not covered by lifetime warranty if the item is no longer available on the common market as a new product.)"
 
i don't know y anyone says it's higher quality, i don't think these cards are even made in the usa lol... look on the card... they're made in china... and everything about them looks like the chaintech card to me hehe~

anyway i think it's becuz of the customer service and lifetime warranty. i had a 5900 that died and they sent me a 6800oc.
 
awaitinggamestate said:
off the subject but as far as rma's go gainward is very excellent in that area.
No wonder. They had to do so many after their 6800GT Golden Samples, I'm surprised they're still in business
 
BFG just screams stability.

Being OC'ed isnt so much just for being 'faster', but it's their way of saying: "Even we can overclock it before we put it in the box, and we still guarantee it will be stable!".
 
mohammedtaha said:
I didn't know people gettin paid low wages and that are told what to say and do are morons ...

That could be you ... or wait is that what Sony and other Japanese companies think of Americans ?

I believe people like you make Americans look bad. "Proud to be American" Oppressors


You like giving jobs away so much why dont you out of the good ness of your heart quit and divie your pay 3 ways and start handing it to someone overseas.

Ive worked Tech support before Ive had to take calls from the yes morons over seas who the majority have no idea what they are doing and are their for teh sole purpose of upsetting the cu to the point of hanging up so as not having to handle the issue.

dont believe me ask anyone who works for SBC ( telecom) and they will tell you how worthless the over seas reps really are.
 
Come on.... Having a FX5600NU go to the pits, and having them send u a 5600U?

What else could you ask for?

Rad777
 
high quality...cooling seems to cool better for some reason(mabey high quality thermal paste?)though overclocked out of the box the include faster ram chips then usual and tend to get higher core overclocks along with memory overclocks..of course life time warrenty
 
dajet24 said:
You like giving jobs away so much why dont you out of the good ness of your heart quit and divie your pay 3 ways and start handing it to someone overseas.

Ive worked Tech support before Ive had to take calls from the yes morons over seas who the majority have no idea what they are doing and are their for teh sole purpose of upsetting the cu to the point of hanging up so as not having to handle the issue.

dont believe me ask anyone who works for SBC ( telecom) and they will tell you how worthless the over seas reps really are.


Their having a job and working to provide for the their families doesn't make them morons. Not knowing what to say or how to do their jobs isn't their fault or classifies them as morons. It's the American Morons pursuing the American Dream that wanna make money and could care less about their customers and would rather increase profits by decreasing costs than increased customer support!!

Don't blame them for getting that job!! Blame the person who hired them !!

Sorry about the thread hi-jacking .. some people are too arrogant and couldn't find sense and humility if it was was glued to his hand
 
I want to say since the card is Lifetime waranteed, and already overclocked BFG waivers the ability to reject RMAs if you killed it with an OC...


Other then that I purchased one of their cards and it was of cosiderably higher quality than the XFX I bought.
 
I got a BFG cuz I wanted one that day, that's what BB had, and I had a discount coupon for BB. I'm impressed with some of the stuff on the card, the nice copper heatsink is good, but lil things like the molex connector for extra power, it seems a lot more solid than the connector on the 9800 pro it replaced.
 
They treat their customers right - lifetime warranty

Example:
I bought a BFG 5900nu and used it for a little more than a year with no problems. Then two months ago I bought a new LCD to replace my CRT and I come to find out that the DVI connection didn't work correctly on the 5900.

So, I call BFG and they had me RMA it back to them........ And a few days later I received a new BFG 6800oc as a replacement (much to my suprise!)

That is why next time I go to buy a card, it will be from BFG. They have won me as a loyal customer.
 
reasons i bought the BFG:

1. Lifetime Warrenty. i had heard about peoples cards dying and them getting the equavalent card of the current generation back. That said to me, "this company has a kickass RMA dept. and treats the customer right"

2. the card is blue. i love blue. :D

3. BB had a few in stock for MSRP when they were impossible to find.
 
dajet24 said:
You like giving jobs away so much why dont you out of the good ness of your heart quit and divie your pay 3 ways and start handing it to someone overseas.

Ive worked Tech support before Ive had to take calls from the yes morons over seas who the majority have no idea what they are doing and are their for teh sole purpose of upsetting the cu to the point of hanging up so as not having to handle the issue.

dont believe me ask anyone who works for SBC ( telecom) and they will tell you how worthless the over seas reps really are.

First level of support just reads a script. Whether it was SBC or Verizon, they rarely did more than go through basic windows settings and ask you to reboot your computer and power cycle the DSL Modem. Rinse repeat. 4 or 5 years, I talked to no more than 4 people who did more than that (2-2.5 years with SBC and 2-2.5 with Verizon Avenue).

Tier 2 support was great, but until I got a direct line, it was almost impossible to get through to them.

Unless tier 2 at SBC is also outsourced, I don't see how it matters from a customer's perspective. And to be honest, having gone to school with many Indians, I don't understand how being from India equals bad service. Most I've been are very well educated.
 
nilepez said:
First level of support just reads a script. Whether it was SBC or Verizon, they rarely did more than go through basic windows settings and ask you to reboot your computer and power cycle the DSL Modem. Rinse repeat. 4 or 5 years, I talked to no more than 4 people who did more than that (2-2.5 years with SBC and 2-2.5 with Verizon Avenue).

Tier 2 support was great, but until I got a direct line, it was almost impossible to get through to them.

Unless tier 2 at SBC is also outsourced, I don't see how it matters from a customer's perspective. And to be honest, having gone to school with many Indians, I don't understand how being from India equals bad service. Most I've been are very well educated.
I don't think that it is bad service. It's more likely that most of us americans can't understand what the heck they are saying most of the time. Myself, I've never had a problem with any vendors I've had to deal with. Although I will say that Arcserve's Customer service is the worst.

Also check this out it's funny as hell. Most of it is true.
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