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'Engineering samples' are the beta products of CPU's that are meant to be used as demonstrators. Usually, they are picked out of a very large bunch and perform well. However, they may have many flaws that were fixed in the production model.
Anyone sellling an ES is commiting a crime, as they are the property of Intel.
Your overgeneralization is completely wrong. While some may be the property of Intel that does not mean that every engineering sample ever made is the property of Intel and none are ever given away.
Actually, it does. Engineering samples are not given away, they're loaned. Regardless of who happens to be in possession of a chip at any given time, they are still all the property of Intel, and it is illegal to resell them since anyone who is sent an ES chip is bound by an agreement with Intel.
so do you work as the bookkeeper at Intel who keeps track of every single engineering sample and can guarantee me no ES has EVER been given to someone, including employees, and not kept in the sole ownership of Intel? Give me a fucking break. That claim is stupid and based on absolutely no facts.
Read and learn: http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-001616.htm
I'm through dealing with idiots like you.
You are a complete fucking idiot. You disregarded everything about the law which I stated and you fail to take into account that regardless of what is in that link companies sometimes GIVE employees products. You are so small minded you cannot imagine anything outside of your world and don't even consider that not everything is done the same way a company states in its official documentation. I repeat, show me that you work for Intel and keep control of ALL ES chips and they have NEVER been given to an employee or any other person.
Notice the part in bold. Also, this:ES processors are available to those who qualify for, and obtain, an NDA. An Intel® Authorized Distributor can assist with the application to obtain an NDA. There are no other means to obtain sample processors from Intel Customer Support.
Engineering sample processors from Intel are property of Intel Corporation.
Actually, it does. Engineering samples are not given away, they're loaned. Regardless of who happens to be in possession of a chip at any given time, they are still all the property of Intel, and it is illegal to resell them since anyone who is sent an ES chip is bound by an agreement with Intel.
All you really have to do is look at the fucking law. Read and learn about voidable title. Read and learn about what a bona fide purchaser is. Here is just ONE scenerio to show you are a fucking dumbass to make a broad generalization that something is always one one. Chip is loaned to A, giving A voidable title of the chip. A then sells to B a bona fide purchaser. B then has CLEAR TITLE OF THE CHIP AND IS THE SOLE OWNER. If B sells or gives the chip to anyone else B is doing NOTHING WRONG.
According to the NDA which anyone who obtains an ES must sign, any ES chip is the sole property of Intel. Therefore, no one aside from Intel themselves has the right to sell an ES to anyone else.
You obviously don't get a simple argument. I will explain this one more time. Intel would have a cause of action against A in my scenario. B would be the owner of the chip. It's that simple. I don't care what disclaimers Intel puts on its site. Go read a fucking law book and you would hopefully understand.