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What browser do YOU use?

What is your primary browser?

  • IE 6

    Votes: 47 8.7%

  • IE 7

    Votes: 15 2.8%

  • IE based browser or extention (Foxie, Avant, etc..)

    Votes: 16 3.0%

  • Firefox 1.X

    Votes: 285 53.0%

  • FireFox 1.5 Beta 1

    Votes: 91 16.9%

  • Opera 8 Free

    Votes: 38 7.1%

  • Opera 8 Paid

    Votes: 27 5.0%

  • Safari

    Votes: 4 0.7%

  • Netscape

    Votes: 3 0.6%

  • Other (please elaborate in thread)

    Votes: 12 2.2%
  • Total voters
    538
Firefox in windows and linux. Tabbed browsing is a must for me...that's the biggest thing. I'll occasionally use IE6 for a bit just to keep giving it it's fair chance, and I can't stand not having tabs.
 
I just find it interesting seeing all the diehard Firefox fans here. No small wonder that every conversation about Firefox problems or security flaws blows up into a flame fest or false accusations about being a troll if you don't tow the party line.

The demographics are interesting. Very interesting and enlightening indeed.
 
SirKenin said:
I just find it interesting seeing all the diehard Firefox fans here. No small wonder that every conversation about Firefox problems or security flaws blows up into a flame fest or false accusations about being a troll if you don't tow the party line.

The demographics are interesting. Very interesting and enlightening indeed.
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I dont see anything out of the ordinary here. Its safe to assume when in an "enthusiast" forum you would find most using an "enthusiasts browser".
 
SirKenin said:
I just find it interesting seeing all the diehard Firefox fans here. No small wonder that every conversation about Firefox problems or security flaws blows up into a flame fest or false accusations about being a troll if you don't tow the party line.

The demographics are interesting. Very interesting and enlightening indeed.
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well as mentioned directly above, enthusiasts do tend to trial different things
and also keep abreast of security issues, and without a doubt there is a very strong cadre of firefox users here, that will and do take exception to some of the propositions youve made in the past, largely disagreeing with how they where presented (and further addressing the additional points that are inevitably raised).

like severity of vulnerabilities over basic numbers
and more importantly timeliness of patches or workarounds
most of the "converts" lived through the horrible spyware invasion, learned how to combat it, tried Firefox and havent had to combat it since.

Some are of course more fanatical than others :p

I think Ive personally trialed all those browsers with the exception of Safari & IE7
which I will get around to eventually (w\ a new install on one of the boxes)
alot of IE based browsers as well not specifically mentioned
 
PaHick said:
I dont see anything out of the ordinary here. Its safe to assume when in an "enthusiast" forum you would find most using an "enthusiasts browser".
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Knowledgeable computer enthusiasts do tend to be your more astute users. That's for sure.
 
Ice Czar said:
that will and do take exception to some of the propositions youve made in the past, largely disagreeing with how they where presented (and further addressing the additional points that are inevitably raised).
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Nah, I don't think so. I've seen different styles of presentations, both by myself and others, always meet up with the same results.

If they had to deal with spyware, I'm sorry, but that goes to demonstrate the lack of experience of the user. Oh well. No big deal.
 
mosin said:
Knowledgeable computer enthusiasts do tend to be your more astute users. That's for sure.
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If they were knowledgeable they wouldn't have spyware infested computers to begin with. ;) I question how knowledgeable they are when they have to verbally beat up others just for stating their opinions and sharing their experiences as well.

I found two areas that are "no man's land" in Hard Forum. CPUs and browsers. It is consistent between both these topics. They should separate the Firefox forum from the IE forum just like they do for CPUs. That to me does not exude knowledge. It exudes fandweebism. Big difference AFAIC.
 
Firefox exclusively. IE is only used for Windows updates or for applications that it integrates with.
 
SirKenin said:
If they were knowledgeable they wouldn't have spyware infested computers to begin with. ;)
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I could send you some links that would test your resolve. :D
 
I mainly use Firefox.. IE is my preffered browser butI never use it and Opera 8 (paid) actually it was free since they offered that cupon limited time thing for 3 hours... thanks *DSLREPORTS.COM* :D anyway yep.


Opera Reasons to like - Pages Load fast if not faster then Firefox or so it seems.

- Not to like just the over all layu out for some reason I don't like.

-Secure enough..

-Firefox

-Likes - Fast

Real Secure.. some glitchs though but they get patched.

-Dislikes

Cant always run certain formats.

IE (internet Explorer)

Likes

- Fast....(yep thats it)

- Dislikes

Spyware is common
- Viruses are common
-Active X


Not to say I can't remove the viruses and spyware but its a chore to do so/ really a nusense.
 
SirKenin said:
If they were knowledgeable they wouldn't have spyware infested computers to begin with. ;) I question how knowledgeable they are when they have to verbally beat up others just for stating their opinions and sharing their experiences as well.
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You seem to have the answers for everything, and THAT is why people take exception to your statements. Just take "If they were knowledgeable they wouldn't have spyware infested computers to begin with." for example, thats idiotic and assnine to even assume that is the only reason someone would use Firefox. Spyware take all forms and does not enter soley from vulnerabilities in a browser. Theres so much more to a browser than security. I use Firefox for a number of reasons, and the number one would be open source. I have control of my browser. I make it do what I want, through extensions and native features.

You need to step back and look how you present yourself in these threads. Then you may find out why people take exception to your statements. You come off touting IE7 Beta as the best thing since sliced bread. And quite frankly its not. There arent that many changes so far with IE7. As far as security goes, IE7 hasnt changed enough to be labled more secure.

You like Opera? Tomorrow they should release the new version. Maybe some of the bugs will be fixed with the new version. It may include a new rendering engine, and bittorrent so it may be something else to get worked up about...lol.
 
When FF 1.5 Final comes out, I hope we see a new version of K-Meleon that takes advantage of the fixes,updates,rendering etc.

K-Meleon is kind of like having Opera's interface with Gecko.

(Kind of. Not exactly :) )
 
Thanks for all the responses!

again, im going to ask to keep the browser wars out of this, We all have our opinons, and to someone else they are wrong! Im glad this hasnet degraded yet.

SirKenin: Keep out of the vid card wars too, there probably the most vicious of them all.
 
Rombus said:
SirKenin: Keep out of the vid card wars too, there probably the most vicious of them all.
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lol. I missed those altogether. I remember another forum where it was always a huge war between Radeon and Geforce. It was even worse between Geforce and Voodoo when nVIDIA was cheating on benchmarks to show up 3DFX, only to turn around and buy them out. I tended to stay out of the discussion, but holy shit did they ever get worked up about it. hah. :D
 
Whatsisname said:
All the cool people use Links
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All the Uber Geeks use Links :p

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Deer Park Alpha 2

It's unstable, but the increase in speed for browsing forums makes it worth it.

I also use Opera 8 on occasion.
 
i use ie, i have no problems with it, ive tried firefox but eh it's just another browser to me I don't care that much really
 
Mozilla :D mainly

Mozilla Firefox :) on occasion

Opera & Netscape :p here and there

IE :rolleyes: last resort
 
this is slightly OT, but I noticed how the poll just lets you pick on. i think it would've been cool if on SUBMIT, the form grabs your browserID tag and then if it doesn't match the option you voted for, it puts "LIAR!!!" in a dialog box on the screen.

i mean, I normally use Opera so I voted for it. But, I made that vote while using Firefox. :-P
 
Oops, I actually use a firefox compiled by someone else that's G5 optimized, of course it doesn't do wonders but it helps.
 
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canis said:
Deer Park Alpha 2

It's unstable, but the increase in speed for browsing forums makes it worth it.

I also use Opera 8 on occasion.
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Just an FYI for you: FireFox 1.5 Beta 1 is the beta for Deer Park Alpha 2 (Atleast i think, correct me if im wrong) Beta 1 is nice and i havent had any problems with it


I finally gave opera a try now that is free. I was a bit suprised to find that my personal website has a problem with oprea. While IE and firefox display it as intended, opera makes the upper left banner drop down about 10 px each way. I know its just a CSS issue, but my site validated fine with validation sites. Not saying i wasnet impressed with opera, i kinda like it, but it was funny to me :D
 
Rombus said:
I was a bit suprised to find that my personal website has a problem with oprea
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As you said, it's probably just a css problem. It's usually caused by setting the margin for something and not the padding.

For example, browsers use margin: 8px; padding: 0 for the body, so someone sets margin: 0 to put something against the edge, but they forget set the padding to 0 also.

Why do you have to set both the margin and padding? Because Opera has a default of margin: 0; padding: 8px;.

So, for example, if you set, margin-top: 0 for the body, you need to set padding-top: 0 too. Unless you actually want a padding. Either way, you need to set both.

Same type of thing can happen with other elements between browsers. It's not a fault. Opera purposely has margin: 0 and padding: 8px by default on the body as it's more desired than the opposite. It's only a problem because other browsers don't agree.

As for specs, Opera is following the w3c recommended default style sheet for CSS2 that has since been changed in CSS 2.1 to be backwards like most browsers use. CSS2.1 is labeled as a working draft and although Opera implements most of css 2.1, Opera technically isn't in violation here. Opera may change the defaults pending the css specs.

Compare
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/sample.html
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/sample.html
 
Firefox here.

Sucks to be one of the paid opera users heh, seeing as they recently released the entire thing for free, without ads.
 
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