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Wait for pci express?

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dynasty

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I just have a couple questions. First off I was wandering if pci express is really going to have a "big" noticable performance increase and woth the money when it comes out. And when is the x800xt coming out? Just wandering to wait and upgrade to pci express or just go ahead and get one of these. Thanks
 
The current generation of cards will not experience an increase in performance with PEG. VIA will be making boards with both AGP and PEG so you will still be able to use an AGP card in upcoming PEG boards.

Scott
 
Here's a review from the front page. PCI-E has virtually no benefit to gamers at the moment nor does it look like it will anytime soon.
 
sonyman said:
The current generation of cards will not experience an increase in performance with PEG. VIA will be making boards with both AGP and PEG so you will still be able to use an AGP card in upcoming PEG boards.

Scott
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Did you make up the term PEG?

As far as I know, VIA's chips are going to be the only ones with true AGP and PCI-E . The intel boards have the AGP running off the PCI bus with serious performance limitations. All I can say as I'm not running out and jumping on the bandwagon just to have a different graphics port. AGP 8x works fine right now and for a long time ahead. No reason to upgrade just to switch.
 
sonyman said:
The current generation of cards will not experience an increase in performance with PEG. VIA will be making boards with both AGP and PEG so you will still be able to use an AGP card in upcoming PEG boards.

Scott
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However the VIA solution for AGP and PCI-Express co-existing on the same board reduces performance 5-20% according to VIA.

So what you'd have is a cutting edge system that is outperformed by last generations technology.

If you go with a PCI-Express board you should stick to PCI-Express video. Unless your not a gamer. Also PCI-Express is about technological evolution, and has nothing to do with actually being faster than AGP. AGP is an older standard which we aren't even taking advantage of. Remember the PCI-Express bus covers more than just video. It will actually allow things like high end SCSI and SATA cards that actually are capable of transfering more than 133MB a second to do so.
 
Did AGP8x immediately showed us the gigantic performance increase everybody anticipated? Did SATA? There is no point getting PCI-E yet, the full potential of AGP8x isn't completely used up yet. It's way overhyped. In a year or two, there will be cards that needs significantly more bandwidth than AGP8x can offer, but untill then it's not a bottleneck. Besides, the first generation of.. well, everything never seems to get it right. Least of all motherboards.
 
well the cards may need the bandwidth, but will the games be there to take up the slack and use it? Theres always that lag factor. i agree with you tho, being an early adopter has its pros and cons.
 
Met-AL said:
Did you make up the term PEG?

As far as I know, VIA's chips are going to be the only ones with true AGP and PCI-E . The intel boards have the AGP running off the PCI bus with serious performance limitations. All I can say as I'm not running out and jumping on the bandwagon just to have a different graphics port. AGP 8x works fine right now and for a long time ahead. No reason to upgrade just to switch.
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No I didn't make up the term PEG.

Scott
 
sonyman said:
No I didn't make up the term PEG.

Scott
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Just wondering, never heard it refered to PEG before. I thought you may have come up with something new. :D
 
PEG reffers specifically to the PCI-Express Graphics port. The 16x one. Regular PCI-Express ports are 8x.
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
However the VIA solution for AGP and PCI-Express co-existing on the same board reduces performance 5-20% according to VIA.

So what you'd have is a cutting edge system that is outperformed by last generations technology.

If you go with a PCI-Express board you should stick to PCI-Express video. Unless your not a gamer. Also PCI-Express is about technological evolution, and has nothing to do with actually being faster than AGP. AGP is an older standard which we aren't even taking advantage of. Remember the PCI-Express bus covers more than just video. It will actually allow things like high end SCSI and SATA cards that actually are capable of transfering more than 133MB a second to do so.
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Could you link me to this information according to VIA please????
 
Sir-Fragalot said:
However the VIA solution for AGP and PCI-Express co-existing on the same board reduces performance 5-20% according to VIA.
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i think you're mistaken here. according to the anandtech article, the sis and intel chipsets are running the agp slot over the pci bus, and this is where ecs claimed a 5-20% performance loss. via's chipset shouldn' thave the same problem
 
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