Voluntary ISP Filter Attracts Global Attention

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And so it begins. Two of Australia’s biggest internet providers have voluntarily agreed to begin to filter their customer’s internet traffic for banned sites. The sites in question were chosen to be blacklisted by a governmental regulatory body in an attempt to reduce child pornography. The main concern here is who will watch the watchdogs?

For starters, York said there was no transparency in the selection of the internet addresses to be blacklisted, and no accountability from the regulatory bodies creating the blacklists
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"power begets power" See the Chinese are teaching the world a thing or two. Now how do you go about telling the people that this is good for them and forcing them to like it. Censorship doesn't just appear overnight, it comes in bits and pieces.
 
“The “reputable international organizations” providing child abuse URLs have not been named, but may include the Internet Watch Foundation, a UK-based organisation that in 2008 advised UK ISPs to block a Wikipedia page containing an album cover from the 1970s that they deemed might be illegal,” wrote York.
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That's obviously the Scorpions "Virgin Killers" album... *sigh*

It's sad how the politically correct crowd is usually the biggest bunch of hypocrites.
What used to be just innocent and cute family photos (kids in the tub etc) are now automatically "child porn". Anything can be twisted to be negative/harmful. It's all in the mind of the viewer. And last I knew, we were afraid of the thought police....guess that's changed too. :(
 
Sprkslfly said:
That's obviously the Scorpions "Virgin Killers" album... *sigh*

It's sad how the politically correct crowd is usually the biggest bunch of hypocrites.
What used to be just innocent and cute family photos (kids in the tub etc) are now automatically "child porn". Anything can be twisted to be negative/harmful. It's all in the mind of the viewer. And last I knew, we were afraid of the thought police....guess that's changed too. :(
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I see your point. Just recently (Canada, east coast) some government watchdog banned the song By Dire Straits,"Money for nothing" after 25 years of radio play. because some queer didn't like the word Faggot in the song. Their was such an uproar and ridicule that the watchdog backed down. So we in Canada can still listen to "Money for Nothing".
 
Uncle said:
I see your point. Just recently (Canada, east coast) some government watchdog banned the song By Dire Straits,"Money for nothing" after 25 years of radio play. because some queer didn't like the word Faggot in the song. Their was such an uproar and ridicule that the watchdog backed down. So we in Canada can still listen to "Money for Nothing".
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Wow - amazing. I'm in the UK and we are going down the path of everyone else too :(
 
Encrypted proxies. It is the way of the new internet. At least until they blacklist all proxie sites.
The internet is like the wind in some ways. It can't really be regulated properly with out sticking people in a box without air holes.

This is not about porn by the way. Controlling information/content is the real name of the game here anyway. TV and radio can be easily controlled by various governments. They are now trying to gain control of the internet a piece at a time. CP, being the current convenient excuse. Next month/year it will be the hackers they are "protecting" us from, then a few years later it will be something else. They must have this control back just to remain in power in many cases. Not just talking AU here. EU, US/Can, China, the world. The fuckers at the top want to stay there. Not having control of the internet is damn inconvenient for them.
 
GORANKAR said:
Encrypted proxies. It is the way of the new internet. At least until they blacklist all proxie sites.
The internet is like the wind in some ways. It can't really be regulated properly with out sticking people in a box without air holes.

This is not about porn by the way. Controlling information/content is the real name of the game here anyway. TV and radio can be easily controlled by various governments. They are now trying to gain control of the internet a piece at a time. CP, being the current convenient excuse. Next month/year it will be the hackers they are "protecting" us from, then a few years later it will be something else. They must have this control back just to remain in power in many cases. Not just talking AU here. EU, US/Can, China, the world. The fuckers at the top want to stay there. Not having control of the internet is damn inconvenient for them.
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Agreed !
 
The Great Firewall of China has proven that once in place, there is no simple way to bypass it without great personal risk, and if you can control 98%, then you really control everything.

Of course its "all about the children" at first, but then Wikileaks is next on the chopping block. And its not like this is at request of the people, as voluntary user-end proxy services for parental controls are often provided free of charge by ISPs today. So anyone that WANTS a restricted internet can have it.... not surprisingly, adults generally don't want it.
 
GORANKAR said:
They are not coming for them. They are just the excuse.
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And who will make sure that those black lists don't grow to include sites critical of government. Or include information that some people would prefer be censored because it makes them look bad, or because they don't agree with it. People are morons if they think such a system will not over time exapand and seek ever more unwarranted and ungranted power for itself.
 
B^gD^ddy~CF~ said:
And who will make sure that those black lists don't grow to include sites critical of government. Or include information that some people would prefer be censored because it makes them look bad, or because they don't agree with it. People are morons if they think such a system will not over time exapand and seek ever more unwarranted and ungranted power for itself.
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No one will. There will be complainers of course, but they will be too few to matter as it is taken away one little bite at a time.
 
Sprkslfly said:
And last I knew, we were afraid of the thought police....guess that's changed too. :(
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Yea, it pisses me right off when I see these sheep post things like, "if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't care about censorship or loss of anonymity". :rolleyes:
 
Uncle said:
I see your point. Just recently (Canada, east coast) some government watchdog banned the song By Dire Straits,"Money for nothing" after 25 years of radio play. because some queer didn't like the word Faggot in the song. Their was such an uproar and ridicule that the watchdog backed down. So we in Canada can still listen to "Money for Nothing".
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That is incorrect. It was a SINGLE complaint of using a "derogatory" term towards gays.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/921054--dire-straits-song-ruled-unfit-for-canada
 
Great, time to find another ISP. The fact that they have amended the filter to a list determined by Interpol as opposed to one compiled by ACMA is good, though I use the term 'good' very, very loosely.
 
Gnasher said:
Yea, it pisses me right off when I see these sheep post things like, "if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't care about censorship or loss of anonymity". :rolleyes:
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Yup... history is starting to repeat itself, yet people just wear tight blinders until it's done :(.
 
Wrathh said:
That is incorrect. It was a SINGLE complaint of using a "derogatory" term towards gays.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/921054--dire-straits-song-ruled-unfit-for-canada
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Thats what I said:
"Music fans around the world were up in arms Thursday after a broadcast watchdog deemed the Dire Straits hit “Money for Nothing” unfit for Canadian radio because of a gay slur in the lyrics, while others applauded the decision and argued society has changed since the song came out in 1985.

The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council ruled that the song violates the industry's code of ethics because the lyrics include the word “faggot” three times.
 
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