GVX said:http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/200...wnload_the_first_toms_hardware_test_lab_video
the video on that link will show you that taking the heatsink off of an active CPU will destroy it in seconds.
What needs to happen is for the OP to get some kind of camera, lay his PC down in front of his monitor (with his monitor displaying the temps and the CPU in sight). We can check to see if it's "photoshopped" by using a Hex editor to check the signature of the image.
Then, and only then, will anyone believe you.
Well, that video shows what happens to older processors. Not newer ones. The newer AMD's are supposed to throttle down (Cool and Quiet might need to be active) like the early ass Pentium 4's could. Or at least lock up to prevent damage like the Pentium III's and early Palamino chips could.
lockheed2266 said:Press print screen
Open paint - then go to file>paste
There you go...
That's not going to help. He already mentioned that. We shot that down as not proving that he is running the thing without a HSF.
But as for your suggestion of proof, that's the best thing he could do. You can still even fake that though.
Captin Insano said:Ok guys.. All of you chill. Now I may not be there in person But ANYTHING could be possible..I do happen to know Newls1 personally and know he is not the type of person to lie or pull bullshit thats not true. He is not some lil kid here screwing around and he is probably older then most of you in this thread. anyhow.. Have any of you tried this??? From the sounds of it i guess not.. Instead of slamming and flaming newls1 how about trying to PHYISCALLY DISSPROVE IT!!.. Your just stating bullshit that it cant be done is bullshit without real self trial and error factual proof. Unless you have done it yourself and had it fail then you cant say bullshit.. here is an example. How does a 75 watt light bulb not burn up instantly. hmm the wattage output on a 3000 venice is probably less then even that and overclocked fairly close to that spec of 75 watts. So anybody a taker to his suggestion to try it. If i had a 3000 venice core i would do it myself. Its not like you will kill the chip. it does have a shut down threshold that will keep that from happening. Also even if its throttleing down its still pretty kick ass that the energy consumption is working that low and well to allow it to run at that. but come on guys dont be haters about it.. Prove it and if it works like he says thats even better for us AMD guys!!!
No. I am going to have to disagree. When you understand the technology, you understand that anything is NOT possible. I called bullshit because even with an ambient 61 degree room temperature as he claims to have, the Venice core operating at 2.5GHz PLUS will NOT run at 47C idle. If Cool and Quiet is enabled, the CPU is likely throttling to cut back the heat. That's what P4's have always done. Even the cool running Northwoods that were able to run at those temps or lower at full speed. Also bear in mind the inaccuracy of motherboard thermal probes and sensors. Some boards read 10 or 20C lower than they should. Asus being one prime example of that.
The Athlon 64 cores, Venice or not, simply do not run that cool. If they did, it's likely that only passive cooling would be needed for the majority of them. This is clearly not the case.
I would try the experiment to prove it wrong if A I had a Venice 3000+, or if B I could afford to lose one if I did have it. So, until I see some proof, from him and or someone else proving it can be done, I will continue to call a turd a turd, and bullshit bullshit.