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Upgrading season

Well, if I was considering the new Core i7 system before, I have to follow through now. I saw that Amazon had one Silverstone TJ08-B case left -- for around $90 shipped -- and I bit on it. Since I wasn't in a rush, I got the free Super Saver Shipping, which saved me about $15-$25 on shipping costs.

Before I pat myself on the back too much, here's the "cleaned up" case....



I pretty much gave up on the idea of a super-clean case once I realized the length of the PSU cables, the (lack of) space available inside the case, and the possibility that my brother would undo my handiwork as soon as he receives everything. Here are some more pictures of the inside....



To make everything work the way that I wanted to, I had to run to a Mom-and-Pop computer store for a couple of right-angle SATA cables (one 8" cable and one 18" cable) and a couple of SATA to 4-pin Molex PSU adapters. That's $15 bucks that I'd rather spent on myself, because I actually needed one right-angle cable and one left-angle cable (that, in all honesty, I should have purchased earlier, since I knew that I needed at least one of them with that board).

Oh, wait... didn't the case come with one fan already?



It did, and I decided to use it as a side intake fan for the video card.

And for those interested in the case, for your own use, here are a couple of things to consider:



The case uses screwless drive "rails" and PCI card holders.

I'm done playing with the computer. I plan on imaging the HDD tonight and pack everything up afterwards so I can mail it off first thing tomorrow (Monday) morning. Altogether:

Total spent on myself - $413
Total spent on my brother - $719

The last thing I need to do is decide on a monitor, which I'll order tonight. I've decided upon a 1920x1080 resolution for the monitor, but should I go cheap or go big?
 
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Once again, nice work! However make sure, if you haven't thought of it already, to hold down those power cables at the bottom of the case. During shipping, they might get entangled in the video card or elsewhere.

The last thing I need to do is decide on a monitor, which I'll order tonight. I've decided upon a 1920x1080 resolution for the monitor, but should I go cheap or go big? I also found a refurbished Soyo 24" monitor for $180 shipped; should I consider that as well? (After I do more research on the retailer, of course.)

Soyo isn't that good IIRC. I think silent-circuit had that exact same Soyo and he did nothing but complain about it if my memory serves me right.In any case, go cheap. Your bro would probably not notice the difference anyway.
 
Well, I finally mailed off my brother's computer today. The shipping costs were around $45 when it was all said and done. (I shipped everything -- the computer, whole, the spare parts and extras, the Windows/Office discs, and even the original boxes for the PSU and video card.)

I also ordered the monitor today as well... and, long story short, I decided to go big. Just when I decided to order everything, I got hit with a heavy "Are you fucking retarded?" double-tax:

mon_receipt.jpg


... so I then decided to cancel the NewEgg order and buy it from Amazon (like I should have done in the first place).

All told....

Total spent on myself - $413
Total spent on my brother - $962

As for my new system, I received the new Silverstone case earlier this week. I'm not opening the box for it until I get the rest of the parts for this build. I'll be ordering the rest of the parts piecemeal until I can get everything. Hopefully, the new Core i7/X58 system will be completely built by the end of July, but realistically....
 
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I just got off the phone with my brother, and he told me that the computer is working fine. That's the short version of the story.

The long version goes: He received the computer this past Saturday, but he waited until Sunday evening to call me about it.

Bro: Hey, I got the computer, but it's not working.
Me: Uh oh. What's wrong with it?
Bro: Well, it powers up fine, but it shuts down after ten minutes.
Me: OK... (struggling to keep myself from cursing, out loud, in the middle of a busy store)
Me: (one long minute later) Maybe one of the power cables is loose.
Bro: Maybe....
Me: Are you willing to open up the case and check?
Bro: Maybe.... (he's giving me a hard time here)

(A few hours later)
Me: So, did you fix it?
Bro: Oh, you're right about the power cable being loose.
Me: So, which one was it?
Bro: I'm not worried about it right now. I'm trying to get my wireless card in there.
Me: (thinking to myself, WTF?)
Bro: I got the case on its side right now. It still shuts down every ten minutes when I have it standing up, but I'm having no problems with the case on its side.
Me: Have you taken care of the loose cable?
Bro: I haven't done it yet. I'm trying to put my wireless card in first.

For those who don't know, my brother lives in California. It cost me $45 to ship the computer to him. The last thing that I want to do is have to pay to ship it back to me, fix it, and then ship it to him again. And I'm still kicking myself for almost paying the "stupid fucking retard" tax for buying an LCD monitor from NewEgg.

So right now, I'm trying to figure out how much I want to pay for my new Core i7 desktop, and how I'm going to get rid of the "spare parts" (the speaker, monitor, case, and PSU that I no longer want to use) without throwing them away or paying someone to take them out of my hands. If I wait to "clear the space" before I build, it may never get done. However, I'm starting to get tired of looking at everything.
 
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hehe... i think you should have installed the wireless card for him. :p spare parts? sell 'em! :D
 
Good luck coming to a price conclusion.

Anxious to see pictures of the i7 machine.
 
hehe... i think you should have installed the wireless card for him. :p spare parts? sell 'em! :D

The said thing is that I actually thought about doing that, but my mother -- the same one that "convinced" me to make a build for my aunt -- talked me out of doing that. She was concerned that I was spending too much money on my brother (even though that conversation occurred after I initially completed his build).

How can I sell parts when people keep asking me to give them away? (Yes, I know all about eBay and Craigslist. I was asking a rhetorical question.)

Good luck coming to a price conclusion.

Anxious to see pictures of the i7 machine.

Alas, the pictures of the i7 machine won't be coming for a while. I've only bought one part for that system -- the case.

As to the "price conclusion," it will based off my baseline "budget." The long story short is that I'm shooting for the under.
 
Sold the speakers today -- yay!

And now, I've just found out about this:

Is the Microcenter in Virginia far from where you are at? There is a Microcenter located in:

3089 Nutley St
Fairfax, VA 22031

They are selling the Intel Core i7 920 for $230 in store.

So, I guess I need to make a road trip tomorrow....
 
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It's nice to know that I have a Microcenter within driving distance. The long story short is that I picked up the Core i7 920 and the Samsung SH-S223Q, both of which were on sale this week.

Core i7 920 - $242 (including tax)
Samsnug SH-S223Q - $31 (including tax)

Total - $273

Total spent on myself: $686
Total spent on my brother: See post #57

(Damn. I spent around the same amount for the Core i7 920 as I did for the Core 2 Quad Q9550. Good thing I'm building an X58-based system for myself.)

I spent a couple of hours there looking around and seeing if there were anything else that I could pick up today. But it looks like I'll have to make a few more drug deals online.

Speaking of which, here's the revised plan for my build....

- I now have the case, processor, and optical drive. The case also comes with all of the fans that it needs, so that two less things I have to buy.
- I still have the retail copy of Vista Ultimate, but I'm thinking of just installing the Windows 7 RC and waiting until Windows 7 officially arrives.
- I'll probably purchase the power supply next weekend (though I probably won't be able to buy much else until mid-July). If I can afford to, I'll try to pick up the RAM and/or the HDD around that time as well.
- For the video card, I'm thinking of getting either a new HD4980 on sale or a used GTX 280.
- I'm mulling over my motherboard choice. I may swap out the Asus Rampage II Gene for the cheaper-yet-equally-capable MSI X58M. I know, I'll also have to look into finding a good northbridge cooler.
- The monitor will probably be purchased by the end of July. As for the speakers... we'll see.... (I have a decent set of speakers to hold me over. No, not the Z-2300 -- I got rid of that, remember? I also have an awesome -- to me -- pair of headphones.)
 
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Oh, we can make a deal.

All you have to do is cover the costs of gas... and shipping. :p
 
Damn, if I had a Frys or Microcenter here in HI, I'd be going off with the upgrades. Hehe. tiraides, how far was the drive to Microcenter from your area?
 
The Microcenter is about 30 miles from where I live. But throw in Washington (DC)-area traffic plus inner-city driving and that becomes an hour-long drive each way.

I didn't find much else there besides the processor and the optical drive. (I saw their RAM prices and concluded that I could probably get better deals through NewEgg.) Microcenter would probably be a once-a-month (weekend) trip for me, and I'd go only for things that I know were on sale there.

Funny story, but when I was in Hawaii (around 2004-05), CompUSA, of all places, were one of the better-run computer stores that I went to.
 
Yeah, damn I miss CompUSA. We don't have much down here now. ComUSA gone and now CircuitCity. At least CompUSA carried new stuffs here and there. I would look forward to seeing the online CompUSA Ad that they post on Saturday night. I got my M-Audio AV40s when I seen it onsale with a $20 MIR. I finally decided to buy those speakers after several visits to CompUSA and listening to those speakers.
 
I used to live off of NewEgg while I was there, though I did find a nice Mom-and-Pop store across the street from where the Waikiki CompUSA was. I wouldn't be surprised if business picked up a bit over there.

While I'm still thinking about it, here's the final tally for the overall cost of my brother's system:

Parts Reused:
Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R Intel G33 microATX motherboard (replacement board and value: Foxconn G45M-S - $90)
G.Skill 2x2GB DDR2 800 CL5 dual-channel kit (replacement value - $45)
Lite On LH-20A1S SATA DVD burner (replacement drive and value: Samsung SH-S223F - $25)
Two Yate Loon D12SM-12 120mm case fans (replacement value - $8)
Two SATA to 4-pin Molex PSU adapters (replacement value - $4)
3-pin to 4-pin fan adapter (replacement value - $2)
Three 120mm fan grills (replacement value - $6)

Total of estimated "replacement value" - $180

Parts purchased online (including location):
Cooler Master Elite 341 microATX case - $42 (Buy.com)
BFG Tech LS-550 550W PSU - $68 (Buy.com)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 processor - $244 (Dell Small Business)
Asus HD4850 512MB video card - $130 (NewEgg)
Vista Home Premium 64-bit OEM DVD - $100 (NewEgg)
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 3.5" HDD - $70 (ZipZoomFly)
Asus VH242H 23.6" 1920x1080 LCD monitor - $198 (Amazon)

Total of parts purchased online - $852

Parts purchased locally:
20" right-angle SATA cable - $5 (local Mom & Pop computer store)
8" right-angle SATA cable - $5 (local Mom & Pop computer store)
Microsoft Office Standard Edition 2007 - $50 (friend)

Total of parts purchased locally - $60

Shipping costs (USPS Parcel Post) - $46

Total spent on my brother (during this thread) - $958

Total value of computer (plus replacement value but minus shipping) - $1092
 
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I got through with another drug deal, this time from someone I bought parts from before. The long story short was that I snagged a Corsair HX620 PSU, that was used for less than a month, for about $90 shipped. (With the "profits" that I made from selling the Logitech Z-2300, it didn't really cost me much. Yay me. :D )

Here's what I have so far:

Silverstone SST-TJ08-B microATX mid-tower case - $90 (Amazon)
Corsair HX620 620W modular PSU - $90 (HardForum FS/FT forum)
Intel Core i7 920 - $242 (Microcenter)
Samsung SH-S223Q LightScribe 22X DVD±RW burner - $31 (Microcenter)
Windows Vista Ultimate Retail - $115 (HardForum FS/FT forum)

Unless I find a sweetheart deal somewhere, like the FS/FT forum or eBay, I'm going to save my money so I can buy the rest of my parts in one fell swoop.
 
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I just found out about Microcenter's price reduction on the Core i7 920 a few days ago -- it's now $200. :mad:
 
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I'm probably going to order everything else on Friday morning before I go to work.

Here's what I'm thinking about buying:

MSI X58M microATX motherboard
G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3 1600 tri-channel kit
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V
XFX Radeon HD4980 PCI-E 2.0 video card
Western Digital WD6401AALS 640GB HDD

Here's what I need some additional input on...

Northbridge cooler: Should I get the Xigmatek PTR-N881, the Thermalright HR-05 IFX, or the Thermalright HR-05 IFX SLI? Should I try to use an 80mm case fan as well?

Case fans: Should I replace the fans in the case with Yate Loons? Should I replace the CPU fan with a Scythe S-Flex? (Should I add an 80mm fan to the new NB heatsink?)

I guess I'll let you know what I order when I order everything.
 
The HR05's work very well. The SLI version looks like it may get in the way of the first PCI-E slot, and the standard HR05 looks like it'll get in the way of the Xigmatek. :( I wonder if you can put the HR05-SLI in "front" of the DK... using a fan or not depends on temps.

I found no need to replace my Xigmatek stock fans, but I'm less sensitive than others about noise.

Did MC price match?
 
I must have been really out of it this morning... I already had the answer to one of the questions within my grasp:

Slapped a Thermalright HR05 IFX on the board this weekend and NB temps dropped from 63 to 50C.

The board is stable as a rock.

Uh, there's already a thread on it.

Again, is there anyone using an aftermarket northbridge cooler on this board?

I plan on buying it this weekend, and I really don't want to do too much "experimentation."
Do you mean the MSI? I am using a Thermalright HR05 IFX. works fine.

Knocks about 10C off the temp without a fan.
 
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Did MC price match?

They can and they will... but I have to bring the receipt to them in person.

Translation: Road trip!

I'll use this opportunity to buy a few parts from my shopping list, provided that they're available. This is my tentative "final" list:

MSI X58M microATX motherboard
G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3 1600 tri-channel kit
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V
XFX Radeon HD4980 PCI-E 2.0 video card
Western Digital WD6401AALS 640GB HDD
Thermalright HR-05 IFX chipset heatsink
Two Yate Loon D12SL-12 case fans

Whatever I don't get from Micro Center, I'll buy online on Monday. I'll also use this weekend to take a look at some monitors and some of the new video cards that are coming... I may not buy the HD4890 if I can find a better deal by waiting until the time that I buy the monitor. (With my current funds, I won't be able to buy a new monitor for another 15-45 days. I'm hoping that I can buy it sooner, but I anticipate that I'll be able to buy it later.)
 
OK, call me impatient... :p

... but I decided to put in the NewEgg order:

MSI X58M microATX motherboard - $169.99 (NewEgg)
G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3 1600 tri-channel kit - $94.99 (NewEgg)
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V - $39.98 (NewEgg)
Western Digital WD6401AALS 640GB HDD - $69.99 (NewEgg)
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Upgrade Pre-Order - $99.99 (NewEgg)

(plus $10.38 shipping charges)

Total spent at NewEgg (this time) - $485.25
Total spent on myself - $1261

I also placed a pre-order on the upgrade version of Windows 7 Professional. Regardless of which computer it goes on, I will have at least one copy of Windows 7 (the retail version) to work with.

Yes, I intentionally omitted the video card from this order. I have an EVGA 8800GT that I could use for the time being while I figure out my monitor and video card choices. I'm still using my Samsung SyncMaster 930B for now, so I'm in no immediate rush to finalize my monitor/GPU selection.

The "road trip" to the Fairfax, VA Micro Center is still going on today -- I'm not going to pay $230 for a processor that I can price-match for $200 :p -- but my shopping list has (obviously) become dramatically smaller.
 
Well, I got the price match on the Core i7 920 from Micro Center... but other than a small IR thermometer and a SATA/IDE-to-USB adapter (for my mom, who wanted a cheap one), I found nothing else there that was worth buying. For example, I found the Xigmatek Dark Knight there and it was being sold for $60.

I'll make the rest of the purchases for this build some time tonight. I haven't decided yet, but I may still get the HD4890 when it's all said and done this weekend.
 
I thought they pricematch the egg? I would've tried, but the board I wanted was out of stock and the P6T was already the same price as the egg, lol. I didn't notice the Dark Knight there at my local store.

I'm interested in your thoughts on that board, so please do share your experience with it. :)
 
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To be honest, I didn't really care about price-matching anything other than the processor. I've already ordered the bulk of the parts through NewEgg, I already have the PSU and a "holdover" video card on hand, and I already knew going in that Micro Center didn't have the MSI motherboard or the WD6401AALS. The processor was, then and now, the only reason that I wanted to go to Micro Center in the first place.

I'll let you know more about the MSI X58M after I have some fun with it.
 
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A short update, but I decided to get only the HR-05 IFX heatsink for now. I'll use the stock fans for the case and CPU cooler until I get tired of them.

Thermalright HR-05 IFX chipset heatsink - $22.95 (Jab-Tech)
(plus $5.80 for shipping)

Total spent at Jab-Tech (this time) - $28.75
Total spent on myself - $1290

Off tangent, but does anyone sells open-corner medium-speed Yate Loon D12SM-12 fans for less than $6? I've called several places this morning and all of them have closed-corner fans (yet only Jab-Tech label them as such).
 
Eh, I just got mine from jab-tech and used a dremel to open 'em up. :p quick and easy. :D
 
Damn you and your damn logic! :p

I just checked the tracking numbers that I've received, courtesy of NewEgg and Jab-Tech, and it looks like I may be able to start building the system this weekend. :D

Of course, there will be plenty of pictures of the whole affair, if and/or when it happens this weekend. (Who knows? I might break down and order those fans after all....)
 
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Guess what I got in the mail today.... :D



(That's as much as you'll get from me before I start building the computer this weekend, assuming that the HR-05 arrives by then.)

Is it just me though, or does NewEgg seem contractually obligated to mess up at least one box for every package it ships out?



(It may simply be UPS... or FedEx... or the USPS... or maybe it's just me....)

And take a look at the HDD packaging from NewEgg (for comparison's sake)....



Now guess which part of the packaging was placed along the bottom of the box.... ;)
 
yah, newegg's shipping dept isn't the brightest of the bunch, unfortunately.
 
True, but they've managed to use the large bubble wrap with all of the hard drives that I've ordered from them. Then again, I have never purchased a hard drive from them by itself. (I'll test it out on my HDD dock tomorrow to ensure that no damage has been done to it.)

I finally found a buyer for my "holdover" 8800GT, so it looks like I have to make yet another trip to Micro Center for a new video card. I may finally get a chance to see whether or not they price-match with NewEgg.
 
Nice. I've ordered a sole HDD, and they don't pack it any different. They never put enough layers of bubble wrap.
 
I saw what Micro Center had to offer and... fuck it. I've just ordered the HD4890 from NewEgg and chose overnight shipping.

XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD4890 video card - $194.99 (NewEgg)
(plus $25.16 for overnight shipping)

Total spent at NewEgg (this time) - $220.15
Total spent on myself - $1510

Here's hoping that everything else arrives on Friday.
 
hehe, I was about to do the same thing (overnight an HD4890), but I figured I'd just use one of the many crappy vidcards I had layin around instead until the next GPU refresh (since I rarely game these days). Hope you get it all in time for the weekend!
 
The photo's a rush job, but....



I'll get the HR-05 IFX tomorrow morning, and I should be able to start building the system shortly thereafter. (Whether or not I'll start immediately after I pick up the HR-05 is anyone's guess.)
 
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I've been a bit busy with work, earlier engagements, and a last-minute grab on a deal at Best Buy -- namely, the Logitech MX Revolution for $40 plus tax. (Why? Well, the mouse for my laptop died earlier that day, so I guess I was fortunate to find one.)

I'll start building later on tonight. (Yes, I have everything now... :rolleyes:) Right now, however, I have some more running around to do....
 
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Hit a snag with the build -- the hard drive is too close to the Xigmatek S1283V. That means I have to put it below the DVD burner... and I have to get a set of mounting brackets to complete the job.

We'll see if I'm able to complete this build tomorrow, but here's a "before" shot:



Price list:

Silverstone SST-TJ08-B microATX mid-tower case - $90 (Amazon)
Corsair HX620 620W modular PSU - $90 (HardForum FS/FT forum)
MSI X58M microATX motherboard - $170 (NewEgg)
Intel Core i7 920 quad core processor - $200 (Microcenter)
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V 120mm CPU cooler - $40 (NewEgg)
Thermalright HR-05 IFX chipset heatsink - $23 (Jab-Tech)
G.Skill 3x2GB DDR3 1600 tri-channel kit - $95 (NewEgg)
Western Digital WD6401AALS 640GB HDD - $70 (NewEgg)
Samsung SH-S223Q LightScribe 22X DVD±RW burner - $30 (Microcenter)
XFX HD-489A-ZDFC Radeon HD4890 video card - $195 (NewEgg)

Shipping: $41
Taxes: $12

Total of Core i7 system (so far) - $1056

So far, I've done a pretty good job of staying below my baseline.
 
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I'm having a problem with the S1283V: It's too big and cumbersome for me to use inside my case.

I've seen many users position their large HSFs and HR-05 heatsinks to run parallel to each other. I started out that way:



... and realized that I would have virtually no room to work with, let alone (safely) add additional hard drives.

I then tried to position the S1283V the "traditional" way:



... and that was a hassle just getting it in the case... and I didn't even attempt to place the fan on it that time!

As much as I would love the performance (over the stock Intel HSF) and as much as I would like to overclock the Core i7 920, I think that I need to get a smaller CPU cooler that won't take up that much space.

I'm going to hold off on finishing the build for a day or two while I think about what I should do next (in regards to the CPU cooler issue). It's most likely that I'll be using the stock CPU cooler for a while, but if you have any suggestions for a small(er) CPU cooler that would allow for some light overclocking, I'm open to some suggestions.
 
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