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Upgrading my Rig

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Rhyno37

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Currently my specs are:

Cooler Master HAF 932 Black Edition / Intel Q6600 @ 2.4ghz / XFX 9800GTX / EVGA nForce 790i Ultra SLI / NZXT 600W / WD 500GB 5400RPM / 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066

I'm looking to buy these parts right now (RAM and Video card will come later):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010

What do you guys think? Any changes you would make or am I ready to go?
 
Get this stick of RAM now:

$35 - Patriot Signature 4GB DDR3 1333 DIMM

I don't like the Asus Sabertooth as I believe that it's overpriced compared to other quality P67 boards. The MSI P67A-GD65 is a good P67 alternative, but you can also consider several Z68 board for $200 or less.

Replace the WD6401AALS with the Samsung HD103SJ. For $4 more, you get a 1TB drive that performs just as well.

Why the Corsair H50? What can it do that the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus can't?
 
I worry about the 19% of negative views on that board, and haven't heard the best things in terms of overclocking on it, but that's what I've read and heard.

The HDD is a good suggestion, I will change.

Don't really have an opinion on the CPU cooler.
 
what is this pc being used for? If gaming, what games, what resolution for your monitor?
 
Forgot about that info, sorry.

I spend a good majority of my free time on the computer. Mainly browsing, music, and a lot of games. BFBC2, CS2, Crysis, HL2 Mods, Witcher 2, games like that.

Monitor is a Dell U2311H, 1920x1080, just got it.
 
whats the budget? What parts are you looking to upgrade exactly? Maybe answer the sticky?
 
1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc
Gaming, Browsing, Music, tid bits of CS5
2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?
<$800, like to keep it around $600 if possible, shouldn't have tax using newegg, free 2 day shipping as well
3) Where do you live?
Central Illinois
4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.
Mobo, CPU, PSU, Maybe HDD and CPU Cooler
5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.
Cooler Master HAF 932 Black Edition, XFX 9800GTX, Kingston 4GB DDR3 (1033 I believe)
6) Will you be overclocking?
Not atm, maybe eventually when the products become dated
7) What size monitor do you have and/or plan to have?
Dell U2311H 1920x1080
8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?
This week hopefully
9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video? etc.
Not very knowledgeable on this subject, maybe Xfire or SLI
10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If yes, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?
I believe so, recently bought Win 7 64bit System Builder's Edition, so I think it can be transferred

There ya go!
 
Which version of Windows 7? Did you activate the license on another computer already?
 
Rhyno37 said:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit, On my current and only right now.
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Yeah technically/legally you can't transfer that if it's already been activated and being used on another PC.

As for your parts choices: Go with tiraides' sugggestions.

However, what's the RAM voltage of the RAM you're planning on reusing? And which NZXT 600W PSU do you have?
 
Danny Bui said:
Yeah technically/legally you can't transfer that if it's already been activated and being used on another PC.

As for your parts choices: Go with tiraides' sugggestions.

However, what's the RAM voltage of the RAM you're planning on reusing? And which NZXT 600W PSU do you have?
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Wait seriously? So basically it's a one time use? What a rip off.

1.50V I believe from looking at CPU-Z.

And this is the one I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116008
 
Rhyno37 said:
Wait seriously? So basically it's a one time use? What a rip off.
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Meh, sort of is considering that the reusable as many times as you want retail version is only $190:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716

With that said, there are ways to reuse a system builder's version. But I can't comment on those.
Rhyno37 said:
And this is the one I have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817116008
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Can't find out much about that PSU. So really can't say if its bad or good. And sorry, your personal experience with it doesn't count for too much as a indication of PSU quality.
 
Rhyno37 said:
Wait seriously? So basically it's a one time use? What a rip off.
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Basically, all OEM and System Builder licenses are tied to the first motherboard inside the first system that the OS is installed on. In addition, OEM and System Builder licenses are not intended to be retained by the system builder himself for his own personal use - but instead, they are meant to be re-sold as part of the sale of that system (which technially should have been done as soon as the build is completed). The system builder is then responsible for providing technical support to the new owner of that system.
 
For the purposes of this thread, you can't.

Going any further than that involves answering various questions of legality that we can't really answer here.
 
tiraides said:
For the purposes of this thread, you can't.

Going any further than that involves answering various questions of legality that we can't really answer here.
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I understand now.

I like that HDD, but someone says I should get one that runs at 6gbps not 3 to take advantage of that motherboard?

Other than the Asus being pricey, is it a good motherboard?

And do you guys think that PSU is good choice? Modular is the way to go right?

One last question, am I fine going with Sandy Bridge, or do you think Bulldozer will offer anything better?
 
With regards to HDDs, SATA 6Gb/s is more of a marketing gimmick. Even the fastest SATA HDDs on their own don't fully utilize the available SATA 3Gb/s bandwidth.

Asus generally makes good motherboards, but the Sabertooth has some features that I don't believe you'll ever take advantage of. Even the most inexpensive P67 boards have USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s support, most of them offer decent overclocking functions, and many of them have two physical PCI-E x16 slots (though the cheap boards have them running at x16 and x4 speeds; you'll have to spend more than $120 to get boards with dual x8 slots).

A modular PSU is nice, but I view it as more of a luxury for most users. Corsair uses good PSUs (that are made by Seasonic), so you should have no problems with the HX750.

AMD has been so tight-lipped about Bulldozer, I don't know what to say about it. Regardless, Sandy Bridge is better than any non Intel Extreme Edition-based processor in most benchmarks. You'll be fine with Sandy Bridge.
 
tiraides said:
With regards to HDDs, SATA 6Gb/s is more of a marketing gimmick. Even the fastest SATA HDDs on their own don't fully utilize the available SATA 3Gb/s bandwidth.

Asus generally makes good motherboards, but the Sabertooth has some features that I don't believe you'll ever take advantage of. Even the most inexpensive P67 boards have USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s support, most of them offer decent overclocking functions, and many of them have two physical PCI-E x16 slots (though the cheap boards have them running at x16 and x4 speeds; you'll have to spend more than $120 to get boards with dual x8 slots).

A modular PSU is nice, but I view it as more of a luxury for most users. Corsair uses good PSUs (that are made by Seasonic), so you should have no problems with the HX750.

AMD has been so tight-lipped about Bulldozer, I don't know what to say about it. Regardless, Sandy Bridge is better than any non Intel Extreme Edition-based processor in most benchmarks. You'll be fine with Sandy Bridge.
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Thanks for the help. What other Motherboard would you recommend, other than the MSI? I just worry about the 19% of 1 egg reviews, and haven't heard the best about overclocking on it, even though I see its an award winner from these forums.
 
I think that you're making a bigger deal of those negative reviews than you should. I'm not trying to discount the significant of those reviews, but I get the feeling that you're trying to find the perfect, flawless motherboard when no such thing exists.

Here's the problem: None of the main board manufacturers are flawless. Gigabyte is still using BIOS instead of UEFI, and that may impact how much storage you can use with your system. MSI is still suffering from perceptions that it's a lower-tier company, and instances like yours doesn't help matters. Asus has had the highest number of reported issues with its P67 boards (after the B3 revision boards arrived) that I've heard of here at the [H].

While the majority of the 1-egg and 2-egg reviews point towards the same problems, I wouldn't rely on NewEgg reviews to make your final judgement. The easiest, non-biased explanation I can give is that out of everyone who has bought or used that board (not all of the NewEgg reviews come from those who bought their product from NewEgg), more people are going to be more detailed in their negative reviews about their problems than those who post positive reviews about the board. Nineteen percent of the total reviews is a bad number, but I don't know how those reviews stand compared to the number of people who've bought that board from NewEgg.

The two best "equivalents" to the MSI P67A-GD65 that I can think of are the Asus P8P67 Pro and the Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3. The GD65's sibling, the P67A-GD55, doesn't have as many negative reviews (then again, it has fewer reviews than the GD65), but those negative reviews also point towards the same issues as the GD65.

If you want more feedback as to which board you should pursue, head towards the Intel Motherboards forum here and see which boards are recommended by the [H] community.
 
EVGA has been behind the curve, have they caught up? I hear good things about Asrock in your wants/price range.
XFX Power Supplices are Seasonic builds, the Core Pro series very good, the XXX Black Edition the same as the Seasonic X series, check REVIEWS.
 
I have the asus p8p67pro.... I like it... But id have to agree with tiraides that the msi board is a darn good one... We just put together my brothers new ig with it... And unlike.my.board.... No issues..
 
For the budget I dont think your getting much for the cost of some of your choices there.

Motherboard is way overpriced IMHO.. Cooler provides limited benefit over the Hyper 212+ & a modular PSU is great in a case that has shitty cable routing. Well your case already has really good cable routing so I wouldn't spend the extra 30 bucks to go with the older hx750 over the newer tx750 v2. If you were using a case with no place to stash the extra then that would be another story.

This is what I would build in your shoes.

160 ASRock P67 EXTREME4
225 Intel Core i5-2500K
110 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W
65 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB
40 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus

599.95 sans shipping & it sounds like you have that covered already. Thats almost 120 bucks less then your original build that could be put towards an 8gb memory kit or whatever else you want.
 
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