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insaneshell said:
computer repair, and I do know my facts, this is my job. I work with thousands of computer combinations yearly, and likly know a fair bit more than you do about them.
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You just can't accept it when you are wrong even though the hard proof is right in front of you, you contradict yourself constantly, and you act like a 5 year old who doesn't get his way.

I think this thread and insaneshell are beyond help.

let me also state a fact for you, dual atom is not faster than an x2 3800.
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Where did I state that a dual-core atom was faster than a X2 3800+? I stated that my dual-core atom was faster than your old single-core celeron. You like making shit up don't you?


I'm sorry I'm not a programmer but I have a life, and a wonderful girl, not a keyboard and free porn sites like most computer people.
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Do I smell an inferiority complex?


Another thing, you are computer retail, you sell rebuilt/refurbished systems. That's not computer repair, it's computer retail; or are you changing that story, too? :rolleyes:
 
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So im thinking of taking my newly acquired X2 3800, ASrocks SLI32 eSATA2 board, 2gb DDR, and 7900GS and selling it as a complete system on my shelves. But I also know the average user won't buy it, and the gamer wont either even the broke one lol. So whats a good low cost way to make the graphics look like something someone wants lol. What would yall recomend reasonably priced for an x2 3800 CPU lol
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To answer your question; I am assuming by the SLI note that the mobo is PCI-E, anything more than a 3850/9600 would be wasted GPU processing power, however that would not impress even a casual buyer/gamer. I would advise you consider a 4850, a nice card which can greatly improve the visual appearance over previous video cards.

As a side point; I upgraded my wife from her 939 based Althon X2 3800+ because none of the games she wanted to play would run on it at playable framerates (above 30FPS). But every game she wanted to play would run. I admit the frame rates sucked but most of the games she played were designed to be played on lower end systems.
 
kzaske said:
To answer your question; I am assuming by the SLI note that the mobo is PCI-E, anything more than a 3850/9600 would be wasted GPU processing power, however that would not impress even a casual buyer/gamer. I would advise you consider a 4850, a nice card which can greatly improve the visual appearance over previous video cards.

As a side point; I upgraded my wife from her 939 based Althon X2 3800+ because none of the games she wanted to play would run on it at playable framerates (above 30FPS). But every game she wanted to play would run. I admit the frame rates sucked but most of the games she played were designed to be played on lower end systems.
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why on earth would he put a 4850 in there? the kind of person that knows what a 4850 is would also likely have enough sense to know a 3800 X2 is abysmal for modern games. anyway I believe he already said that he traded some stuff for a 9800gtx+.
 
OP, you say you work with thousands of machines a year then you should know you shouldn't pair anything faster than a Geforce 7900 series with that platform. I agree with the others; you have contradicted yourself and are now making new stories in defense. The pc you're trying to sell, that the one in your sig?

In any case this thread and your antics gave me a good laugh. Keep it up.
 
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why on earth would he put a 4850 in there? the kind of person that knows what a 4850 is would also likely have enough sense to know a 3800 X2 is abysmal for modern games. anyway I believe he already said that he traded some stuff for a 9800gtx+.
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I rebuilt a system for a client recently which has a 939 3800+ X2 and an HD4850.
I can't begin to tell you how bottlenecked that 4850 is in the user's system.

It was lucky to run games from 2008 at 30fps, and the system will not play anything from 2010-present beyond 10fps if at all. Luckily the client does not game and only types papers and makes PDFs with it now.

Buy yeah, there is no reason to stick that GPU with such an ancient CPU outside of folding or distributed computing.

insaneshell is totally ripping his customers off by charging such exorbitant prices on such antiquated equipment, and from the info he's given us, he is most certainly lying to his customers about what they are getting. But who knows, he's changed his story so many times now that it's difficult to tell what info is truth and what is bullshit.
 
kzaske said:
To answer your question; I am assuming by the SLI note that the mobo is PCI-E, anything more than a 3850/9600 would be wasted GPU processing power, however that would not impress even a casual buyer/gamer. I would advise you consider a 4850, a nice card which can greatly improve the visual appearance over previous video cards.
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Even if you were to do this, the GPU would still be so bottlenecked that the games would not run smoothly enough.

You could up the AA and AF with a higher-end card of that generation, but it would not be enough to off-set the horrible frame rate nor would it increase the frame rate at all, assuming the system could even run the game or app needed.
 
yeah I have counted 18 games, most of which are very popular, where the 3800 X2 is below minimum requirements. I can also say there are at least 12-15 more games that will not play worth a crap on settings a 9800gtx+ could normally run even though a 3800 X2 technically meets minimum requirements.
 
Red Falcon said:
"Those people got totally ripped off..."
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Wow this insane guy is a real piece of work, talk about ripped off. I imagine when technologically illiterate parents come in to buy a new pc he probably lie's and says those p4's and athlon xp's are middle class that can do most things well.

If all those people who bought the 5 crappy systems you listed actually understood what they were really getting for their money then fine, but i doubt that 100% just by your attitude in this thread and total lack of any remorse or wrong doing.
 
No Its not in a phone book till they issue new ones as its recently opened, also I ask for yalls advice for a second opinion nothing more, nothing less. Not sure what Craigslist shop you see but I'm afraid your mistaken but that's your own problem. As far as entry level, I'm afraid not, I do solder repair, Server maintenance and repair, I have a contract with Keller Willams with there agents in this area and do there repair work on both personal and company computers. As well as virus removal, windows repair and reinstall, data recovery and backup, system builds and referbs.
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Wait, I thought you said you had been in business for years. How is it that you are only now getting a phone book listing? That makes no sense.

I work with thousands of computer combinations yearly, and likly know a fair bit more than you do about them.
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Yet you aren't in the phone book or have an online listing...

I get bussiness because one my turn around time is on average 23 computers a day for desktops and 36 for laptops per day with me and 2 employees.
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So you are a new business that is recently opened and yet you already have that much turnaround... yet you state that you have been in business for years...

insaneshell, if you are going to lie, at least try to have some tact.
 
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Well, at least he has a tag that describes him correctly. I agree that he helps to give computer shops a bad name. As for over-charging, I believe that is in the eye of the buyer. Personally, I would never have charged so much for that system.
A little over a year ago, I sold an Althon X2 3800, with 4GB RAM, a matched set of Maxtor (Special Edition w/16MB Buffers) 80GB IDE setup in raid, a XFX 7900GS 512MB. How much did I charge? Because I would be taking payments I charged him $100.00. Please note that he is NOT a PC gamer. He just needed a PC to check his e-mail and browse the web.
 
Edit: Nevermind. Backing out of this as it has nothing to do with the topic.
 
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lloose, you're probably right, but the fact that insaneshell keeps denying it and changing his story, over and over, I doubt he will give you an honest answer. Something about this whole thread just isn't right.
 
Careful lloose, people get too twitchy these days when it comes to research on the internet. I don't think they realize just how much information is available these days.
 
Ruoh said:
Careful lloose, people get too twitchy these days when it comes to research on the internet. I don't think they realize just how much information is available these days.
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And really its for nothing. Im not going to get anything out of proving this guy wrong so Im going to take my own advice and just not bother. Best of luck to him and his occupation.
 
Red Falcon said:
lloose, you're probably right, but the fact that insaneshell keeps denying it and changing his story, over and over, I doubt he will give you an honest answer. Something about this whole thread just isn't right.
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No doubt there is some deep dark secret about how he ripped off some 70yr old lady getting her first pc. I wonder how they aquire these pc's and how much is really paid for them, a fraction on the selling price i bet.
 
e-geek said:
No doubt there is some deep dark secret about how he ripped off some 70yr old lady getting her first pc. I wonder how they aquire these pc's and how much is really paid for them, a fraction on the selling price i bet.
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we will get Chris Hansen on the case as soon as he nabs pedobear.
 
Phil's PC on-site repair van. :D
Company slogan: "We're there whether you like it or not, and you will pay us!"
 
Red Falcon said:
Wait, I thought you said you had been in business for years. How is it that you are only now getting a phone book listing? That makes no sense.


Yet you aren't in the phone book or have an online listing...


So you are a new business that is recently opened and yet you already have that much turnaround... yet you state that you have been in business for years...

insaneshell, if you are going to lie, at least try to have some tact.
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First I have as a home business setup my own personal shop in my backyard, been doing business for 3 years now. And No I'm not in the phone book at my current location, at my old location I wasn't allowed to run a business from home, but the cops and city council knew, and didn't say anything but I didn't want to push my luck. I got business by word of mouth for doing a great job on the work I do. As for what you think a system is worth, thats your problem.

As for the PC's I have sold not being able to do anything, that is incredibly stupid and ill informed. Most of your PC users do basic things, Youtube, Facebook, DVD's, Music, and email. Any of the systems I sold will do these tasks just fine. Also I'm not what gives shops a bad name, I make my profit on parts and retail, I do my repairs below cost of my competitors simply to take away there customers with lower rates, and faster service. Also the majority of my business is guess what, repair work. This means virus removal, data backup, reinstalls, hardware troubleshooting and upgrades. So if your upset by how I do business then open a shop next door to me and watch your shop fall into debt and close its doors. I have only one goal, to drive my competition out of business and turn my single shop into a chain across the DFW area and set the prices for all repair work. That means stepping on toes, and underhanded tactics, you don't ahead in life unless you play dirty and rip some people off. Thats how I work, and how I run my business. I have no problem ripping you off on hardware.
 
insaneshell said:
I have only one goal, to drive my competition out of business and turn my single shop into a chain across the DFW area and set the prices for all repair work. That means stepping on toes, and underhanded tactics, you don't ahead in life unless you play dirty and rip some people off. Thats how I work, and how I run my business. I have no problem ripping you off on hardware.
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That's an awesome quote for Google reviews, and Yelp. Man, just quit posting.
 
Ruoh said:
That's an awesome quote for Google reviews, and Yelp. Man, just quit posting.
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This ^

insaneshell, give it up. You are underhanded, you've lied to us, changed your story over and over, and you stab your customers in the back, naive or not.

Just lock this thread and be done with it. It's gotten way beyond the scope of what the original topic was.

I have only one goal, to drive my competition out of business and turn my single shop into a chain across the DFW area and set the prices for all repair work. That means stepping on toes, and underhanded tactics, you don't ahead in life unless you play dirty and rip some people off. Thats how I work, and how I run my business. I have no problem ripping you off on hardware.
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Real fucking low. Even on my worst day I would never lie to a client about what they are getting.

We'll keep this in mind the next time you ask for help. This is the kind of shit that will get you reported to the Better Business Bureau.
 
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insaneshell said:
I have only one goal, to drive my competition out of business and turn my single shop into a chain across the DFW area and set the prices for all repair work. That means stepping on toes, and underhanded tactics, you don't ahead in life unless you play dirty and rip some people off. Thats how I work, and how I run my business. I have no problem ripping you off on hardware.
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so basically you just admitted what you were denying earlier. you take advantage of people and rip them off without the least bit concern for anybody but yourself. I doubt you will get much more help on these forums if people know that's the type of person you are.
 
cannondale06 said:
so basically you just admitted what you were denying earlier. you take advantage of people and rip them off without the least bit concern for anybody but yourself. I doubt you will get much more help on these forums if people know that's the type of person you are.
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Considering the other shops around here charge the same price for the same kind of systems I'm not ripping them off, also I do repairs for less than cost, I make the money on hardware. For example every shop in my area sells a GTS450 for 200 dollars, and a GTX570 for 450, I sell for the same price. Second of all, went to another shop today to look. AMD Sempron 2800, 1gb DDR400, Geforce 6200TC, 160gb Hard Drive, XP Home from local shop is asking 380 dollars. My prices are competitive which is how they should be. Why should I sell for the prices newegg can do? I pay that price to my wholesaler to get the parts. See the picture.
 
insaneshell said:
I have no problem ripping you off on hardware.
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Yet you say
...I'm not ripping them off...
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Do you even hear yourself? You contradict yourself on every post you make.


A computer shop in my area charges the same prices as the ones you listed, however, they are upfront about the age of the system/parts being sold and what they are capable of.
Unlike you, who tells the customer that a 6 year old X2 939 paired with a 9800GTX+ is a "gaming machine".

The price tag isn't the problem, it's the lying and deception that kills your reputation, especially on these forums.


A good reputation spreads through honesty, reliability, consistency, decency, and professionalism.
A reputation does not spread by lying, cheating, and fucking the ignorant, insaneshell, contrary to what you do to your customers.

Like I said, one of these days the Better Business Bureau is going to end up fucking YOU.
 
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Red Falcon said:
Yet you say


Do you even hear yourself? You contradict yourself on every post you make.


A computer shop in my area charges the same prices as the ones you listed, however, they are upfront about the age of the system/parts being sold and what they are capable of.
Unlike you, who tells the customer that a 6 year old X2 939 paired with a 9800GTX+ is a "gaming machine".

The price tag isn't the problem, it's the lying and deception that kills your reputation, especially on these forums.


A good reputation spreads through honesty, reliability, consistency, decency, and professionalism.
A reputation does not spread by lying, cheating, and fucking the ignorant, insaneshell, contrary to what you do to your customers.

Like I said, one of these days the Better Business Bureau is going to end up fucking YOU.
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I'm not with the BBB, and I dont intend to join
 
Red Falcon said:
Like I said, one of these days the Better Business Bureau is going to end up fucking YOU.
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The problem is, the BBB doesn't actually DO anything. They record consumer complaints, but they don't actually DO anything about them. It's just a decent method of checking up on a business prior to using them, to see if there are any gripes about their service. Mr. Beshear here certainly wouldn't want to further endanger his cash flow methods.
 
Well putting 2 8800GTS 320/640 and if this is a socket 939-if you
can find a 4400 X2"ebay" you can get decent frame rate.

My old A8N32-SLI-AMD64 X2-4400/2-8800GTS-640mb-4-Gigs
Mushkin-Redline-PC-5000-I got 70/90-FPS on COD-4-1280x1024 reso
with 16x/AA-16x/AF then went to 1600x1200 got 60/70-FPS with
same 16x/AA-16x/AF.

7900 type Vid-card would be outdated by gamers standard-but just a
web-surfing/do minor PC stuff tasks-it's not bad at all compared to
some poeple I know I've helped with pre-made Dell P-4's with only
256mb-ram and PCI-slot.
I put 2-GB's in and a 6200-512mb PCI-and it went from booting from
15 mins or more to 1-2 mins.....

But this mobo got some life in iit and did a google search and this
mobo has a expansion slot to put AM2 CPU plus/DDR-2 ram.

http://www.ocinside.de/go_e.html?ht...results/mainboard_asrock_939sli32_esata2.html

AS-rock in which a Asus always have some expanable motherboard.
I saw one online with either AGP/PCI-E on same mobo.
 
insaneshell said:
Considering the other shops around here charge the same price for the same kind of systems I'm not ripping them off, also I do repairs for less than cost, I make the money on hardware. For example every shop in my area sells a GTS450 for 200 dollars, and a GTX570 for 450, I sell for the same price. Second of all, went to another shop today to look. AMD Sempron 2800, 1gb DDR400, Geforce 6200TC, 160gb Hard Drive, XP Home from local shop is asking 380 dollars. My prices are competitive which is how they should be. Why should I sell for the prices newegg can do? I pay that price to my wholesaler to get the parts. See the picture.
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That other shop is ripping people off as well then.
 
Yeah, the OP isn't very different than a con-artist. He scams inexperienced customers who unfortunately come across him.

This thread seriously needs to be locked, I think insaneshell has dug his own grave far enough.

I doubt you will get much more help on these forums if people know that's the type of person you are.
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+1

...and I can't imagine why he got banned. Good riddance.
 
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