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hossdaddy

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Hey guys im running my 1070ti and just seeing whats happening with the 5700xt pricing. Is there any point in upgrading?

I mainly play PUBG.

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hossdaddy

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Its not holding me back but I dont like to let my tech get some old that the upgrade is expensive.
 

tempertantrum

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Man I run my hardware hard right up until I can't run my games, then I upgrade. My 1070 still handles everything I've thrown at it @ 2000/4500 @ 1440. Once I start noticing lag/drag in my games, then I'll splurge :D
Really? What games/settings are you using? I had to turn a bunch of stuff down with my 1070 (with clocks slighty higher than that, like 2063, can't remember the RAM speed right now) to keep 144 Hz at 1440p in Titanfall 2.

Edit: 144, not 114 Hz (typo)
 
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Nebulous

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Really? What games/settings are you using? I had to turn a bunch of stuff down with my 1070 (with clocks slighty higher than that, like 2063, can't remember the RAM speed right now) to keep 114 Hz at 1440p in Titanfall 2.
I play COD MW, Sniper Elite4, and Wolfenstien Youngblood with everything maxed out on a 4k 43" TV as my screen. My framerates don't even drop below 125fps. Smooth as butter. Using the 432.00 Drivers.
 

Auer

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Don't count on anything getting cheaper with the next gen.
 

tempertantrum

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I play COD MW, Sniper Elite4, and Wolfenstien Youngblood with everything maxed out on a 4k 43" TV as my screen. My framerates don't even drop below 125fps. Smooth as butter. Using the 432.00 Drivers.
Interesting. I guess I should know to expect it will vary by game. (ps., meant 144, not 114Hz in that last post.)
 

Furious_Styles

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I play COD MW, Sniper Elite4, and Wolfenstien Youngblood with everything maxed out on a 4k 43" TV as my screen. My framerates don't even drop below 125fps. Smooth as butter. Using the 432.00 Drivers.
Uhh what? There's no way they don't drop below 125fps @ 4k. The 1070 struggles on lots of titles maxed out even @1440p
 

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Either his 1070 does like 4000 Mhz core, or 1920x1080 is the actual resolution of his 4k to get 125 FPS lol.
Earlier post says he runs the card at 2 GHz and runs games at 2560x1440.
Man I run my hardware hard right up until I can't run my games, then I upgrade. My 1070 still handles everything I've thrown at it @ 2000/4500 @ 1440. Once I start noticing lag/drag in my games, then I'll splurge :D
 

tempertantrum

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Earlier post says he runs the card at 2 GHz and runs games at 2560x1440.
I play COD MW, Sniper Elite4, and Wolfenstien Youngblood with everything maxed out on a 4k 43" TV as my screen. My framerates don't even drop below 125fps. Smooth as butter. Using the 432.00 Drivers.
This can't possibly at 4K. I'm guessing 125Hz @4K would be difficult for a 2080 or 2080TI. Regarding the 2000 clock speeds, I think that's well within the capabilities of a higher end 1070 with a good liquid or even air cooler, nothing crazy. I get mine up to 2063 using the auto-overclock system in MSI Afterburner. 4K would break it, even with my liquid cooling setup (Gaming X with an EK water block). pushing 125Hz at 1440 seems reasonable, though, but again, it's gonna vary heavily by game.
 

p_monks33

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Im just busting chops, the 1070 is indeed still a good card, I have one that I use as a backup card. It struggles mightily in newer titles though. My resolution is 3440*1440 @100hz , and the 1070 fights to stay above 60-65 with low-mid settings. Really stinks as far as upgrade path goes though. 5700XT is a strong card at the price point, but I honestly cannot recommend it due to my experience with a Powercolor Red Dragon 5700 that I had to ultimately return. Random crashes in multiple games, all temps within spec. All things pointed towards a bad driver, so I DDU'd everything multiple times, still crashed in many games at random points. I think if the 2070S came down in price to 399.00 that wouldn't be a terrible deal, but now at 499.00 its a tough push as well. GPU market is stale at the moment.
 

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^^^ I've read with these 5700's you have to go into the BIOS and tell it to use PCI-e 3.0 if you do not currently have a PCI-e 4.0 motherboard, otherwise you can get stuttering/bsod's. I do not know for sure as I do not have one though
 

Nebulous

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Uhh what? There's no way they don't drop below 125fps @ 4k. The 1070 struggles on lots of titles maxed out even @1440p
I know if i enable vsync, then yes my frames will choke. I never use vsync so I dunno what to tell you. Wether you believe me or not is up to you. My 1070 doesn't choke or struggle with the games I play on my screen, thus is why i have no need to upgrade my card until I absolutely need to.
 

Nebulous

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This can't possibly at 4K. I'm guessing 125Hz @4K would be difficult for a 2080 or 2080TI. Regarding the 2000 clock speeds, I think that's well within the capabilities of a higher end 1070 with a good liquid or even air cooler, nothing crazy. I get mine up to 2063 using the auto-overclock system in MSI Afterburner. 4K would break it, even with my liquid cooling setup (Gaming X with an EK water block). pushing 125Hz at 1440 seems reasonable, though, but again, it's gonna vary heavily by game.
I never said I run my games @ 4K. What I said was I have a 4K tv I use as my pc monitor and I run my games @ 1440. Also I never said 125Hz either.
 

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^^^ I've read with these 5700's you have to go into the BIOS and tell it to use PCI-e 3.0 if you do not currently have a PCI-e 4.0 motherboard, otherwise you can get stuttering/bsod's. I do not know for sure as I do not have one though
That very well could be as I never had any issues but I was running it on a PCIe 4.0 motherboard with a 3XXX CPU.

I stand by my standard recommendation of a 5700 flashed to the XT bios. Best card in terms of bang for buck in this cycle.
 

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I never said I run my games @ 4K. What I said was I have a 4K tv I use as my pc monitor and I run my games @ 1440. Also I never said 125Hz either.
Okay, just confusing wording then. I still doubt even 1440p maxed out you never drop below 125fps. Even in Apex legends I could not maintain that fps non-max settings.
 

NobleX13

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I agree with you guys saying the GPU market is stale. I sold my EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 recently to free up some funds for something, and now I regret it. My R9 Fury and GTX 1060 6GB lag behind it quite a bit in terms of performance, and compared to what I sold it for even the used market holds a pretty poor value right now for anything faster than what I already own. I am gaming on a 165Hz 1440P display and I didn't realize how much I liked the extra FPS from the 1070.

Part of this is the rock-bottom pricing on used midrange GPUs from mining operations liquidating their stock. I paid $90 shipped for the R9 Fury, and $85 shipped for the GTX 1060 6GB. Most used 1070s of decent manufacture sell for around $180, and they don't have double the horsepower of the cheaper GPUs.

The cheapest RTX 2080 I have seen second-had was $450. That card is around 10% slower than a 1080TI for the same price (or less), and has less VRAM. Crazyness.
 

Woot910

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I agree with you guys saying the GPU market is stale. I sold my EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 recently to free up some funds for something, and now I regret it. My R9 Fury and GTX 1060 6GB lag behind it quite a bit in terms of performance, and compared to what I sold it for even the used market holds a pretty poor value right now for anything faster than what I already own. I am gaming on a 165Hz 1440P display and I didn't realize how much I liked the extra FPS from the 1070.

Part of this is the rock-bottom pricing on used midrange GPUs from mining operations liquidating their stock. I paid $90 shipped for the R9 Fury, and $85 shipped for the GTX 1060 6GB. Most used 1070s of decent manufacture sell for around $180, and they don't have double the horsepower of the cheaper GPUs.

The cheapest RTX 2080 I have seen second-had was $450. That card is around 10% slower than a 1080TI for the same price (or less), and has less VRAM. Crazyness.
If you are looking for a 1070 again, I have a mint-ish EVGA 1070ti FTW Ultra (triple wide cooler) that I'm thinking of selling. :)
 

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If you are looking for a 1070 again, I have a mint-ish EVGA 1070ti FTW Ultra (triple wide cooler) that I'm thinking of selling. :)
Says the guy who doesn't have enough posts to put something up in FS/T. Hmm.... 😜 We can discuss in PM

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Woot910

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Says the guy who doesn't have enough posts to put something up in FS/T. Hmm.... 😜 We can discuss in PM

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I've actually been a member here since early 2000's, but lost my password while going to school. I'm more of a lurker than a poster, and typically sell my stuff locally. No worries though as I'd be hesitant as well.
 

Nebulous

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Okay, just confusing wording then. I still doubt even 1440p maxed out you never drop below 125fps. Even in Apex legends I could not maintain that fps non-max settings.
Seriously I've cranked my card to it's absolute max @ 2100/5000 and every once in a while I would a get a little tearing so i backed off the mem to 4500. Aside of that, all my games are maxed @ 1440. Now if I try to run any of the games at true 4K, then yes my card will struggle to reach playable framerates with the occasional stutter, but at 1440 I have no problems. I was considering buying a 2070/2080, but decided not to as this Zotac AMP! Extreme 1070 does quite well for how old it is.
 

Furious_Styles

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Seriously I've cranked my card to it's absolute max @ 2100/5000 and every once in a while I would a get a little tearing so i backed off the mem to 4500. Aside of that, all my games are maxed @ 1440. Now if I try to run any of the games at true 4K, then yes my card will struggle to reach playable framerates with the occasional stutter, but at 1440 I have no problems. I was considering buying a 2070/2080, but decided not to as this Zotac AMP! Extreme 1070 does quite well for how old it is.
You must be getting bad data then, because there's no way even in a game like wolfenstein youungbood that a 1070 @ 1440p max settings averages 125 fps.
 

Wooshoo

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Personally I would wait as long as it meets your needs. I was hesitating on what to upgrade to replacing my 1070 laptop since prices are so high. I didnt really want to do any half measures so I waited for a 2080ti sale and got for $1000 (before tax) but that's because I haven't built a computer for myself since 2013 and my desktop is a geriatric. If you dont feel strongly about it wait for the new releases since they will at least probable bring these sky high prices down.
 

tempertantrum

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I never said I run my games @ 4K. What I said was I have a 4K tv I use as my pc monitor and I run my games @ 1440. Also I never said 125Hz either.
You said 125FPS, and when you said "everything maxed out on a 4K tv" the most reasonable assumption would be that "Maxed out" in this context would be at 4K.

I play COD MW, Sniper Elite4, and Wolfenstien Youngblood with everything maxed out on a 4k 43" TV as my screen. My framerates don't even drop below 125fps. Smooth as butter. Using the 432.00 Drivers.
 

tempertantrum

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I dunno what to tell you then.
I don't think it's about telling us any thing. It's simply not believable no matter what you might say. Maybe post a video capture with you in the settings menu, then game play and Frame counter visible? Again, I'm running a 1070GTX at about 2080 clock and 4450 Memory timings, and there's no way I could get that in WYB. I have turn down a bunch of stuff at 1440p to get consistent 120+ FPS. Even golden GPUs aren't magically like 10-20% faster.
 
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