Update to Hephaestus

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  1. VanGoghComplex

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    Hey all! I got the bug again recently and so I'm doing an update to my main rig. Here's a thread to share that with you all.

    There are a few niggling flaws with Hephaestus as it is now, pictured below.

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    For one, I'm color locked to red. The fans, the LED ring on the reservoir, and the sleeved cabling are all red. I like red, but my mobo and GPU are RGB equipped, so it would be nice to be able to change it up every now and again. Some color-neutralizing will be required.

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    First thing's first, of course: strip the machine. Due to the cramped nature of the GPU, the rear radiator, and the hardline tubing, this is an endeavor that must be taken on in a specific order.

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    Get the red out... (this stuff is over in FSFT if you're interested!)

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    And (chronologically out of order) run some Primochill Sysprep through the res and rads. I'm using Primochill Vue in the rebuild, so I want to make sure everything is in good clean shape.

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    I'd originally planned to disassemble that waterblock and clean it by hand, but Gigabyte chose to make that a very difficult prospect. Therefore, it gets Sysprep too!

    I'm sorry I didn't get any pictures of the CPU block, which I did take apart and clean. It had some gnarly black gunk in it that looked almost fibrous. My only guess on that is the low-concentration black dye that I ran in it for a while to give the coolant a "cloudy" look.

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    I wanted to get rid of the orange on the Gigabyte card, because of course I did. The original plan was to take the paint off with some sort of solvent. The plate on the front is anodized aluminum, so solvent did nothing to it but clean it. The paint, however, was super-resilient. It did come with with Acetone or MEK, but I was being impatient so I tried the masking job and paint pen you see above.

    I didn't take pictures of the results because they were garbage. After cleaning off the paint, I consigned myself to an hour and a half of scrubbing with a q-tip.

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    And... imagine my surprise and delight to find that the paint was applied BEFORE the aluminium was anodized! It masked the process, meaning after removing the paint, I still get the pattern but in a bright aluminum color! It took SO LONG you guys. But, if you ask me, this is how it should have looked from the factory. I've been harassing Gigabyte on Twitter about putting orange paint on RGB products. They haven't responded yet, but someday...

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    Here it's shown with all the paint off and the new black and white cables from CableMod. The Seasonic PSU you see down there is new as well. My Corsair RM550 served me well, but it needed to go for this build.

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    Here's a shot showing the fitment of the new fans: Blacknoise NB eLoop 140s, fitted with Phanteks Halos RGB frames. The light bouncing off the glossy black fan rotors should be a nice subtle lighting effect.

    That rear radiator has been the thorn in this build's side from day one. It is too wide to mount flat to the back panel, and thus must be stood off enough to clear the I/O shield shroud on the mobo. You can see the nylon spacers in there. However, it can't be stood off too far: the eLoop fans are 29mm thick, and then add 6mm for the Phanteks frames. It's not touching the terminal of the GPU block, but it's clearing by a mm or less.

    Both of these Swiftech rads also have their mounting holes spaced wrong, by a little bit. I've been able to make them work through persuasion, but I won't be buying Swiftech rads again.

    More to come!
     
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  2. VanGoghComplex

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    So sorry for cheating, but I'm done and it's 12:30am and I want to sleep.

    I will post some more about this journey, I promise.
     
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    Okay guys, time to finish this up. The system is heatsoaking right now, no leaks and excellent thermals. I accidentally did a repaste on the GPU block, and it seems to have improved the temperature a couple of degrees. CPU is still running hot, but I think that's just the nature of the 7700k.

    First thing I'd like to talk about is the pump mount.

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    The old setup was not my favorite. I was happy with my work on it, using a little ingenuity to get past the fact that for whatever reason, Phanteks didn't elect to include support for DDC pumps in their watercooling bracket. I know D5s are more popular, but c'mon; what's a 50x50 hole pattern cost? This new setup is a combination of an EK "spider" 120mm fan mount and a Barrow angle bracket. Zero dremel required here. The main reason I wanted to do this is that the old setup left the reservoir with very little headroom; I frequently thumbed the fan while filling coolant and was never happy with the return line coming into the top of the res. I even tried a lower return line for a little bit... that was a mistake. As the late Wayne Static said, it BLED FOR DAYS

    You'll also notice in this shot that the hard drives are missing... but wait! What's the flash of green on the left!? Is it an SSHD? Yes! Sitting in one of Phanteks' handy dandy (charge you extra for) hard drive sleds. Between that and the behind-the-mobo drop-and-lock, I was able to relocate both drives to make room for this bracketous abomination.

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    I never liked the bends coming down from the rear radiator. Well, that's not fair to say. I liked them but I never liked having to do any kind of service involving those lines. There was no room to pull them out from there unless I first removed the top rad, and there was no pulling the GPU unless I first removed the rear. A couple of extender fittings and 90s made that a doable thing. Here's a neat bit: both of those lines pictured were reused from the original build! They were originally straight sections of longer bends, cut down and rebent. (This is fortunate, since 14mm PETG tubing seems to have dropped off the western hemisphere for a while.) For the size of case the Evolv is, it sure feels cramped! I guess if I just used 120mm radiators like a normal person I wouldn't have that issue. But the 140s look so PHAT Y'ALL

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    Here's some blurry proof that there IS ACTUALLY SPACE between the rear fan frame and the GPU block terminal!

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    This is a minor touch, but one I'm pretty proud of. Some of you will have seen my other thread in which I removed the garish orange pinstriping from the aluminum cover of the Gigabyte waterblock on this card. Well, there was a little decal on the terminal with some of the same orange eye-stab on it. It looks much better, replaced with a little bit of woodgrain black vinyl wrap. WOODN'T YOU AGREE

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    Here she is in most of her glory. I've tried a few colors so far, but I'm really digging white at the moment.

    Thanks for stopping by! Happy watercooling! =)
     
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  4. guitarslingerchris

    guitarslingerchris Failure is just success rounded down

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    I actually vinyl wrapped my friends' waterblock in ebony woodgrain vinyl a couple months ago so that's not even the first I've seen of that, lol.
     
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    Dude that sucker looks bitchin! Beautiful job! (y) I might go with PETG tubing someday. That's an extra expense I need to justify first, lol.
     
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    Took all that time to remove the orange striping from my card, only to find that orange is actually a really good color on this system.
     
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    Looks like the Golden Child! Still looks bitchin'! (y)
     
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    Looks great, video card looks 120% better with that orange gone, hope those dyes hold up better for you too. Have not had good luck with a dye in the past, changed over to straight distilled and a silver strip.
     
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    Thanks! It's not a dye. :D
     
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    Yup!
     
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    A+ contribution to the thread. We would not have been able to get here without you.
     
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    Glad you could follow along and read the posts before this one. Aka, the part where I was told it is not dye, and I had to correct misinformation. But, thank you for your contribution.
     
  15. VanGoghComplex

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    Dye is a separate thing you add to a coolant.

    I'm not saying it has no dye in it, but it's better classified as a "premix."

    Po-tay-to, po-tah-to, right?

    I've had dyes leave some nasty stuff in my system in the past, too. Preliminary reports from testers like JayzTwoCents suggest this stuff is pretty hassle-free, though, so here's hoping!
     
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    Yes some what, based on their website:
    • Water-based fluid
    • Non-toxic & environmentally friendly
    • Biodegradable
    • Handmade in small batches for unmatched quality control
    • Pre-Dyed
    • Flushes clean from loop
    • Visual indicator useful to illustrate fluids flow patterns
    • Natural microbial growth combatant
    • Non Toxic Corrosion inhibitors
    I was using early gen premixed coolant and basically the micro fins in the block pulled the stuff out of the coolant. Looked less and less colored, which was the warning sign. This stuff being newer might be better, and if you are changing fluids or flushing stuff on a regular basis, anything would be fine. But for a lot of people that set it and forget it, I recommend water and a silver kill coil.

    The Vue stuff looks awesome as hell, so hope it does work well for you.
     
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    Mr JayzTwoCents did a month or two of testing on it in a very hot system. He disassembled the system and pulled apart the blocks, and found no fallout, no particulate, and - if you can believe it - says he found his blocks cleaner than when he started.

    I have no idea how that's possible, but I'm no chemist. So I've got high hopes for the stuff. It's by far the best-looking flow indicator I've ever seen. =D
     
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    Just checked out his vids after getting home from work.

    That stuff seems legit, really tempted to order a bottle and try it out.
     
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    Nice system !! Man that is tight work area u had in the case. Have to keep us informed on how the
    VUE stuff works out for u.