Upcoming TR chipsets

drescherjm

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I want the 7nm TR4 for my windows workstation so this has me interested.
 

Zarathustra[H]

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Going to have to make this decision pretty soon...

I was prepared to go for the 3950x on launch on September 7th, but ideally I'd really like more PCIe lanes, which means Threadripper.

If a 16C/32T Threadripper part with equivalent or better clocks than the 3950x winds up being launched, I'd go for that instead. I'm not sure I'd be willing to go for a 32C/64T part or a 16 core part with lower clocks though.

Question is, when will they be announced? I hope that the new Threadrippers are announced at the same time the 3950x is launched, that way we'll have enough information to make the right decision.
 

drescherjm

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I hope that the new Threadrippers are announced at the same time the 3950x is launched, that way we'll have enough information to make the right decision.
I expect it will be announced later than that possibly Q1 next year.
 

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I'm really excited to hear about this - lets hope we get new info soon. I know I'll be building a new system soon and it would likely have either been built on Zen2 AM4 or Threadripper. Some were a little disappointed about the speed of Zen2 after such a nice increase in Zen and Zen+, but its still solid and to the point that Intel i7 / i9 wins in low-core scenarios are minor sometimes to the point of negligible real world performance.

Still, it has been said the best Ryzen chips have been saved for the Ryzen 3950X full 16-core part and I'm curious to see the frequencies and overall performance thereof. As we saw last Threadripper generation, there was a difference between the "X" and "WX" chips, so this new information makes sense. I'm interested in the best of the gaming/enthusiast/multiuse Threadripper to see how it performs, in either TRX40 or TRX80 chipsets. The "W" side having its own chipset for more workstation "massively core-heavy, frequency less important" workloads is nice, but not to my particular use cases. The question will be what kind of IPC, frequencies, and core counts will compare between the a top of the line AM4 3950X , and Threadripper chips . If threadripper can either provide better per-core performance/frequency/overclocking and/or equal amounts with even more cores available, then they'll likely justify their usecase for a wider assortment of users. Otherwise, I'll worry there may not be enough to justify the expense of the TR platform (over the already expensive AM4 570X high end), except in very specific uses that leverage quad-channel RAM or tons of PCI-E lanes.

In any event, this is nice to see and I'm really interested in more info - particularly in TRX80 and the Threadripper chips themselves .

Edit: Oh, I remember reading somewhere that its possible Threadripper could be based on an advance to the Zen2 process in some way? There's no official "Zen2+" on the roadmap, but I do recall reading that advances between now and the unveiling of next gen Zen3 may be possible to improve the clock rates/performance of chips like Threadripper. If so, it would be great to hear!
 

Zarathustra[H]

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Thanks for the info.

Ideally we'd get details (number of cores and clocks) on new Threadrippers before having to make a go/no-go decision on 3950x. If it then doesn't launch until December or Q1 is fine. I am happy to wait if I know what I am waiting for.
 

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For an announcement or availability?

I'm going to have to make a decision soon. I can't keep waiting for the next good thing and never buying anything :p
that what I keep saying. if you are waiting for the next best thing it will never end as there is a new next best thing coming right after it.
 

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I'm literally willing to spend WAY MORE than I should responsibly spend on a new 24+ core TR system... 8 DDR4 channels? that budget just got more... erect...
 

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Indeed. I guess they'll need to come on eatx boards to get meaningful access to everything.
For the high compute users, being able to have all cards running with 16 lanes makes it much easier for those cards to make use of system RAM rather than the RAM onboard the card. Even with only 3 or 4 GPUs, this largely eliminates Intel from consideration for many uses. Obviously, that is a very tiny niche, but any 64-core CPU with 128 lanes is already very niche to begin with.
 
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