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Let's take a vote, how many people think these guys are going to hit that $32M goal in thirty days? Vote right here.
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I'll give them credit for having reasonable differences in pledge levels (rather than $5 at a time like everyone else) but man, I thought these guys were non-profit? $800 for a smart phone is worse than Apple.
No. They're too late to the game with everyone knowing only three names: Android, iOS, and Blackberry. In order for this to be successful, the average "so three guys walk in to a Best Buy..." type people would have to know exactly what Ubuntu is and what the benefit would be. Too hard to sell the concept to the consumer gen-pop right now.
No. They're too late to the game with everyone knowing only three names: Android, iOS, and Blackberry. In order for this to be successful, the average "so three guys walk in to a Best Buy..." type people would have to know exactly what Ubuntu is and what the benefit would be. Too hard to sell the concept to the consumer gen-pop right now.
F you ubuntu, you lost me with the unity bullshit.
LOL!!
Yeah, Unity didn't do much for the unity of Ubuntu users. Many fled Ubuntu for other distros like myself.
mobility of a smart phone and the power of a desktop
Apple charges $849~ for their 64GB. Ubuntu's has 128GB per the video.
Apple produces millions of phones, Ubuntu is looking at 40,000 phones.
The Ubuntu devices will have multiple radios for data connection.
None of this matters because we don't know how the device will actually perform. I wish Ubuntu would instead find a flagship phone they like and go from there. Moto X, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, etc.
Not a fan of Apple but I'll point out a few more important differences.
Apple has completed products, Ubuntu does not.
Apple product has detailed specs, Ubuntu does not.
Apple paid to build the phones they want you to buy, Ubuntu wants you to pay to build it
And where pray tell did that money to pay to have smartphones built come to Apple from? The funding fairy?
Most FOSS people use free software because they don't have money. Asking for money on Kickstarter is like asking a bucket of pears to donate kidney beans for the local Walk Across America 24-Hour Marathon run.
Most users have money but refuse to actually purchase software. By going "open source", they are "sticking it to the man" (ie Microsoft).
Why not just write drivers for existing phones.
People were fleeing Ubuntu before Unity came along, hoss...
Damn it, Ubuntu. Come on guys. This is going about it all wrong. First of all, Ubuntu needs to clean house with their fucking spyware bullshit first - it is a big blight on the face of Linux users. Forget their other questionable decisions; they need to eliminate the "online websearch from the desktop without users opting in", "Amazon affiliate bound to queries without opt-in" and "routing searches and whatnot through Ubuntu's servers without opt-in". This harms Ubuntu and Linux as a whole. Gurus who would otherwise use Ubuntu will not deal with the privacy violations, and the Linux community should not have the premiere desktop distro (ie The one that Steam and all the others who have recently started to support Linux choose as their test platform) afflicted with adware/spyware bullshit - it makes it harder to get Joe Intermediate User to switch over. Linux used to have the "We respect your privacy and make decisions that benefit the users first, and you can even verify them! We're not like those other guys who want to monetize everything without your knowledge, jam you into a bubble, and leech away" marketing point, but Canonical undermines that by leaving this Google-level bullshit installed by default.
Now they want to extend that BS to a phone? Come on. Fix the problems that exist first. I know that Canonical needs to make money somehow, but at least be up front about it. It doensn't take much to make a menu when you're configuring that says "Do you want the Unity Desktop Search to search locally on your PC, or include Internet resources as well?" and "Canonical needs to make some money to keep bringing this Free and Open Source operating system to you. Would you like to help us by enabling the Amazon search lens affiliate? This means when you search through your desktop and purchase things on Amazon, Canonical gets a little reward. Your privacy will be protected - we can't see what you bought, and it doesn't in any way change the items you see. Thanks for helping us bring you a better Ubuntu!" Etc...
Then, they should concentrate on rolling out a high quality, easy to use Ubuntu for Phone distro that can be installed on existing hardware. Trying to fund this whole thing to partner with exclusive hardware is not yet where to go. Drum up some popularity by getting Android users to install UbuPhone and say "Wow, this is great"! THEN perhaps you can sell hardware pre-installed. Asking for a fortune to make a Version 1 of the software on exclusive hardware, which isn't going to reach mass sales and may have quality issues, isn't a good way to go. Oh, and if Ubuntu Phone can't even run Android applications natively, don't even bother. Nobody wants another platform that can't run existing apps.
Android, iOS and Windows phone perhaps. I don't know anyone who would deliberately buy themselves Blackberries anymore,
WHat is this blackberry you speak of?