Trade crypto anonymously

szakal161

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Hi.
Anyone knows where I can exchange crypto ?
all exchanges need me to send id and proof of where I live. A loot of personal info..... the whole point of crypto is to be anonymous witch transactions...... and now we have to send all personal stuff and thx to this governments can collect tax and they know who own crypto....
That all is against what crypto should be -_- so does anyone know where I can exchange that stuff without all that personal information ???
 

Nobu

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Hi.
Anyone knows where I can exchange crypto ?
all exchanges need me to send id and proof of where I live. A loot of personal info..... the whole point of crypto is to be anonymous witch transactions...... and now we have to send all personal stuff and thx to this governments can collect tax and they know who own crypto....
That all is against what crypto should be -_- so does anyone know where I can exchange that stuff without all that personal information ???
You could buy and sell it on the dark web to individuals, or maybe someone has a more advanced trading platform set up. I believe there are now laws in many jurisdictions requiring them to collect that info, so I doubt there are many on the "open" web.
 

sgrinavi

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Hi.
Anyone knows where I can exchange crypto ?
all exchanges need me to send id and proof of where I live. A loot of personal info..... the whole point of crypto is to be anonymous witch transactions...... and now we have to send all personal stuff and thx to this governments can collect tax and they know who own crypto....
That all is against what crypto should be -_- so does anyone know where I can exchange that stuff without all that personal information ???

You can use a VPN from a country that doesn't require KYC
 

Andrew_Carr

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You're asking for non-KYC (know your customer) exchange / methods

https://localmonero.co/?language=en
Binance (non-US site with a VPN)
https://tradeogre.com/

Are some examples

Also, keep in mind that just because you can exchange your crypto for cash without paying taxes doesn't mean you're still free and in the clear. If you buy a million dollar house in cash and don't earn enough on paper to justify it there still might be questions.
 

auntjemima

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You're asking for non-KYC (know your customer) exchange / methods

https://localmonero.co/?language=en
Binance (non-US site with a VPN)
https://tradeogre.com/

Are some examples

Also, keep in mind that just because you can exchange your crypto for cash without paying taxes doesn't mean you're still free and in the clear. If you buy a million dollar house in cash and don't earn enough on paper to justify it there still might be questions.
I always wonder why it's anyone's business. Let's say I save money every month for decades and buy in cash. No way to prove it really besides a mattress full of cash, you know?

Oh well, for another topic
 

szakal161

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You're asking for non-KYC (know your customer) exchange / methods

https://localmonero.co/?language=en
Binance (non-US site with a VPN)
https://tradeogre.com/

Are some examples

Also, keep in mind that just because you can exchange your crypto for cash without paying taxes doesn't mean you're still free and in the clear. If you buy a million dollar house in cash and don't earn enough on paper to justify it there still might be questions.
The problem is my personal info and stuff. For example if I have pic of samone id I can take a loot loans on that guy without he knowing it.and data steal and selling is quite big those days. And another problem is that sending those stuff is quite not legal cuzz of security reasons.
 

sgrinavi

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The problem is my personal info and stuff. For example if I have pic of samone id I can take a loot loans on that guy without he knowing it.and data steal and selling is quite big those days. And another problem is that sending those stuff is quite not legal cuzz of security reasons.

If it's done correctly, it's legal. I agree that it's a security risk these days, I get notices of data leaks from "hacks" more often than I care to admit.
 

Andrew_Carr

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I always wonder why it's anyone's business. Let's say I save money every month for decades and buy in cash. No way to prove it really besides a mattress full of cash, you know?

Oh well, for another topic

The stated reason: Fight terrorism after September 11th (because our CIA, NSA, FBI, et al. did such a good job defending us with their trillion dollar budgets despite knowing who the terrorists were in advance and being warned about it)

The actual reason: societal control

No one in power cares about your identity being stolen.
 

MrGuvernment

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use DAX like pancake / uniswap if you want to pay fee's or as others noted use non KYC sites like KuCoin, but those often will limit your transactions to a smaller amount until you KYC, which may be fine for most.
 

noko

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Hi.
Anyone knows where I can exchange crypto ?
all exchanges need me to send id and proof of where I live. A loot of personal info..... the whole point of crypto is to be anonymous witch transactions...... and now we have to send all personal stuff and thx to this governments can collect tax and they know who own crypto....
That all is against what crypto should be -_- so does anyone know where I can exchange that stuff without all that personal information ???
You can use https://changelly.com/, all you need is an Email Address. Direct trade from your coin to the coin you want to your wallet. No coins are held on the exchange. Their Changelly Pro version, https://pro.changelly.com/ is a more traditional exchange where you send coins to a wallet on the exchange, trade and then withdrawal them, still only email is required. Larger trades and transfers requires more than just an email account. So far they have been rather good and convenient.

As for paying taxes, I recommend you do. You can keep rather good privacy with Changelly if you want but I would not abuse that either.
 

MrGuvernment

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Changelly are based out of Malta so no tax treaties with the U.S so should be good there. The issue will come when you want to move that Crytp to Fiat....thats where you may get tagged if it is enough.
 

noko

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Changelly are based out of Malta so no tax treaties with the U.S so should be good there. The issue will come when you want to move that Crytp to Fiat....thats where you may get tagged if it is enough.
About the best I see one can do besides face to face exchanging a privacy coin which would be virtually untraceable is to trade it for the real McCoy, as in Gold or Silver or other precious metals/coins. Money Metals accept Crypto, even Monero and so they say have a strict privacy policy. As in all ship to address online orders there will be a paper trail. Companies can be force to disclose information etc.
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