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Time for a new rig

ca_hard

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1) What will you be doing with this PC? Gaming? Photoshop? Web browsing? etc

Heavy gaming, photo/video editing, running business applications (Office'esque), periodically loading up multiple VMs.

2) What's your budget? Are tax and shipping included?

Budget is roughly $4,000 USD (typically I've squeaked by in the past with $2,500 or less for my rigs -- not including any changes in displays, just the hardware in the case). I typically err on the side of investing in high-quality parts, when it matters anyhow, for the long haul. On average, I rebuild every 2 - 3 years (I try to do 2 years, but usually end up in the midst of waiting for products to come out).

3) Which country do you live in? If the U.S, please tell us the state and city if possible.


U.S. - California


4) What exact parts do you need for that budget? CPU, RAM, case, etc. The word "Everything" is not a valid answer. Please list out all the parts you'll need.

Complete refresh:

  • Motherboard
  • CPU
  • CPU cooling miscellany
  • Memory
  • GPU(s)
  • Root/OS storage
  • Fast application load storage (could be shared with Root/OS if large enough).
  • General purpose high capacity storage
  • Blu Ray / DVD / CD drive/burner -- I have used my current ASUS one about 3 times in the last 3 years, going the way of the 3.5" drive....
  • Modular PSU
  • Case (I like big cases, don't like horsing around with tight spaces)

5) If reusing any parts, what parts will you be reusing? Please be especially specific about the power supply. List make and model.

Mouse, keyboard, displays -- old rig will be re-gifted so it has to remain in working order.

6) Will you be overclocking?

All previous builds have utilized motherboard/CPU/RAM combinations that were good for overclocking. I typically OC, if I can get her stable, and leave it alone for the remainder of the life of the hardware.

7) What is the max resolution of your monitor? What size is it?

Currently using 2 x displays. Main display is a 30" @ 2500x1600, with a 24" @ 1200x1920 portrait mode companion display.

8) When do you plan on building/buying the PC?

Within the next 2 months.

9) What features do you need in a motherboard? RAID? Firewire? Crossfire or SLI support? USB 3.0? SATA 6Gb/s? eSATA? Onboard video (as a backup or main GPU)? UEFI? etc.

Most of this would be influenced by the components listed out above -- no specific need outside of that (e.g. if someone recommends an SLi setup, then I guess I'd need an SLi-capable motherboard, etc etc). I would guess USB 3.0 is pretty much standard at this point, since it's on my current motherboard from 3 years ago.

10) Do you already have a legit and reusable/transferable OS key/license? If so, what OS? Is it 32bit or 64bit?

I will need a new copy of Windows 7 64-bit Ultimate, as the current rig is being re-gifted.



Thanks for your suggestions! ;)


For reference here is my current build (tossed her in the signature, but my signature doesn't appear to be appending itself to the post):

Gaming/All-purpose Rig - Core i5 2500k | Corsair H80 | Asus P8Z68-V PRO | 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 | Zotac GTX 580 3GB | INTEL SSDSC2MH120A2 120GB SSD | Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB HDD | Corsair AX850 PSU | Corsair Obsidian 650D | Win 7 64bit Pro
 
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Is your current PC no longer meeting your performance needs?

I ask because unless your performance needs are very very extreme, I don't think there's a worthwhile upgrade for you. besides the video card.
 
My current machine is simply being re-gifted, thus leaving me with the predicament of replacing it.
 
My current machine is simply being re-gifted, thus leaving me with the predicament of replacing it.

Ahh. Well in any case, you're still planning a tad too early as our recommendations can often change monthly and even daily on some occasions due to changing pricing and availability. If you want an up-to-date build list, then please come back when you're 1-2 weeks away from buying the parts and ask for advice then. In addition, two specific hardware rumors are going to influence what parts we might sugget:
Rumor 1: Intel might be delaying their Haswell refresh K series CPUs (Devil's Canyon). Supposedly going to be better overclockers than current Haswell CPUs
Rumor 2: Whether or not Nvidia's Maxwell GPUs are going to be delayed until next year.

Also, there's no such thing as an Antec Obsidian 650D ;) If you want to go with a different case rather than your current Corsair Obsidian 650D, I recommend the following cases:
$100 - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Full Tower ATX Case
$100 - Corsair Carbide Series 500R ATX Case
$120 - Antec 1100 ATX Case
$120 - Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Case
$120 - Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Arctic White ATX Case
$110 - Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gunmetal Black ATX Case
$120 - NZXT Phantom PHAN-002OR Black Finish w/Orange Trim Full Tower ATX Case
$130 - NZXT Phantom 530 Black Full Tower ATX Case
$130 - Corsair Graphite Series 600TM ATX Case
$140 - Corsair Graphite Series 730T ATX Case
$150 - Corsair Obsidian Series 650D ATX Case
$160 - Corsair Obsidian Series 750D ATX Case
$160 - Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T ATX Case
$170 - NZXT Phantom 630 Gunmetal Full Tower ATX Case
$170 - NZXT Phantom 630 White Full Tower ATX Case
$190 - Corsair Graphite Series 760T ATX Case
$230 - Silverstone FT02B-USB3.0 ATX Case
$250 - Silverstone FT02S-W-USB3.0 ATX Case
 
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Any ideas on when 'Rumor 1 / Rumor 2' will become evident? I could pull the trigger 'now' on the new build hardware, so my 1 - 2 months was a really rough estimation given things like product releases/availability always seem to influence purchases (and you've pointed out here that it would be a factor).

I've fixed the reference to 'Antec', thanks for pointing that out ;)

I've done some research on the NXZT Phantom 630 and I like what I've seen, glad to see it listed in your recommendations.
 
Any ideas on when 'Rumor 1 / Rumor 2' will become evident? I could pull the trigger 'now' on the new build hardware, so my 1 - 2 months was a really rough estimation given things like product releases/availability always seem to influence purchases (and you've pointed out here that it would be a factor).
Rumor 1 might be confirmed on June 2nd. Not sure about Rumor 2.

I've done some research on the NXZT Phantom 630 and I like what I've seen, glad to see it listed in your recommendations.
It's a solid case. But while the 630 does offer some phenomenal cooling, in terms of quality, I would rate it a tad lower than the 650D.
 
4k budget build for gaming and encoding



CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($529.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($303.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($320.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($449.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($148.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Video Card ($1499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($179.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($325.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $3949.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-06-01 16:11 EDT-0400)
 
You might consider getting the new AOC 4K display or the new 21:9 3440x1440 LG UM95.

With regards to the re-gifting of your old PC, you might also consider retaining the old SSDs & HDDs for your new PC and putting a new HDD in the old PC. I'm not sure how the licensing for Windows would work there.
 
What video-editing software are you using?
If Adobe stuff, you need CUDA cores. A Titan Black would give multiple times better performance than a 295X2. Your gaming will lose some fps though...
As for cooling there are better AIO sollutions than the corsair H105 (I say this as a owner of the H100i and I wouldn't really recomend it compared to the competition). For motherboard go for a WS 2011 board.

PS: You also want a reference and non overclocked GPU for editing stability (you will get constant crashes otherwise).
 
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What video-editing software are you using?
If Adobe stuff, you need CUDA cores. A Titan Black would give multiple times better performance than a 295X2. Your gaming will lose some fps though...

Correct me if I am wrong but Adobe now supports AMD and NVidia for all their stuff including PremierPro. Reference

Also, Photoshop uses OpenCL which again, correct me if I am wrong, AMD has better support.

When we first built the Mercury Playback Engine, we focused on NVIDIA CUDA technology. Since then, however, we have worked hard to ensure that users of both NVIDIA and AMD GPUs were able to harness the full power of the Mercury Engine, and I’m happy to confirm that Premiere Pro CC supports GPU acceleration on both AMD and NVIDIA hardware on both Mac and Windows.

As for cooling there are better AIO sollutions than the corsair H105 (I say this as a owner of the H100i and I wouldn't really recomend it compared to the competition). For motherboard go for a WS 2011 board.

Agree with the WS2011 board, but I was trying to stay within the $4000 budget.
As for a better AIO, can you mention which competition you are talking about?

PS: You also want a reference and non overclocked GPU for editing stability (you will get constant crashes otherwise).
That is a good point. If you are going to be doing a lot of photo/video, 2 reference 290x or a Titan Black.

Note that the Adobe Mercury engine only uses a single GPU for processing, but it will use both when saving.

EDIT: Did some checking, and it looks like for PremierPro the AMD support is basically still marketing for Apple MacPro ;) So Titan Black seems like a better choice.
 
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