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This is how you DO NOT overclock your processor...

Serge84 said:
When you OC a chip and fri it. Then want it replaced. (I never have) But logic would say, never tell AMD the truth. Act like you used everything stock with it and used stock speeds. And make up a beleaveable story. Not put abunch of M80's around it to pop the IHS off. Or drown it and put it back together again in some crappy way. =P Can he say silicon! lol

Maybe poping off the IHS wasn't the smartest thing for him to do when he wanted to replace it. Its easy when no damage can be seen. But not if you totally F it up with a night on the town. :D
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Lol... that'd never fly.

First, all dual core, opteron and AM2 parts are brought for PERSONAL inspection - that means I get the proc, and I give it a physical. If I find any evidence of alteration (and trust me, I look all over the place for all the common signs, and then some).

All lower end processors are inspected by the shipping department, but they also check them fairly well before replacing, and if they find anything odd, they forward the processor to us for further inspection.
 
Is pay good? What's a promotion in that area? and finally, how would someone apply for that kind of a job? I think it's located in Texas right?
 
alik4041 said:
Is pay good? What's a promotion in that area? and finally, how would someone apply for that kind of a job? I think it's located in Texas right?
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Pay is shit; promotion is possible but gotta work ur ass off, and finally - this is in California, not in Texas - you gotta go through www.volt.com
 
would this also work?

https://www.amd.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?

I'm 17, going to be a senior in highschool and would like to persue a career in techonology (specifically engineering hardware like chips, etc. for AMD, ATI, Intel, anyone). How would one get started in such a career?
 
alik4041 said:
would this also work?

https://www.amd.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?

I'm 17, going to be a senior in highschool and would like to persue a career in techonology (specifically engineering hardware like chips, etc. for AMD, ATI, Intel, anyone). How would one get started in such a career?
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You could give it a try. I am a sr. in college majoring in Industrial Technology focusing on Computer and Network engineering... it may help :p
 
VanFanel89 said:
You could give it a try. I am a sr. in college majoring in Industrial Technology focusing on Computer and Network engineering... it may help :p
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Aight thx
 
alik4041 said:
would this also work?

https://www.amd.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?

I'm 17, going to be a senior in highschool and would like to persue a career in techonology (specifically engineering hardware like chips, etc. for AMD, ATI, Intel, anyone). How would one get started in such a career?
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EE major at a respectable college. Focus on IC design, maybe a bit of analog knowledge too, depending on what exactly you want to do.
 
VanFanel89 said:
Lol... that'd never fly.

First, all dual core, opteron and AM2 parts are brought for PERSONAL inspection - that means I get the proc, and I give it a physical. If I find any evidence of alteration (and trust me, I look all over the place for all the common signs, and then some).

All lower end processors are inspected by the shipping department, but they also check them fairly well before replacing, and if they find anything odd, they forward the processor to us for further inspection.
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1st of all, if somebody uses the stock HS for afew months, and then uses a new HS. That won't matter. Anybody can clean a chip very well with the right stuff to make it look totally new. I don't go popping off ISH's on CPU's I plan to keep for the warrenty. I don't know how in the world some could get AS5 anyware else but on the top of the ISH.

Some are so strange they use too much and get it everyware I guess and you try to find evidence of use of that? Hard when somebody uses cleaner around all of the ISH and reattaches the stock HS for a moment to have some of the old paste get onto the ISH... making it look as if it was used. When you remove the Stock HS nomatter what there will be scratches on the IHS from any HS you use.

How would you tell if a OC took place it the cpu is dead? You can't turn it on. It could have died from a lightning storm or by a overheat and blame the fan failed. You can burn them out in a way where it looks beleaveable. Overvolting could look as a result of a lightning storm. Or other reasons but really be part of a OC. Some ppl smart enough can make things look beleaveable. Like nothing but normal use was its death.

Some cpus can die early. Others are the effect of long 24/7 use with high temps. Or of overclocking. You can never totally know if somebody has that can cover up this evidence. If a CPU is totally dead then there is no way of knowing its real failure unless you reverse engineer it. Say I axidently overvolted my cpu in a OC. Even 1.75v could never kill it cus its not enough. But if it was I could say a lightning storm surged it todeath and it relates to the damage so. You always can't know the truth.

But if you deal with a dude that got cought like this. Thats a walk in the park compared to somebody that could actouly try. I can't beleave somebody could actouly think they could get away with taking off a ISH and having artic silver all over the freaken cpu hello. Not too bright if you ask me.
 
wow this guy was savvy enough to remove the ihs yet stupid enough to apply thermal compound to the pins???
 
alik4041 said:
would this also work?

https://www.amd.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm?

I'm 17, going to be a senior in highschool and would like to persue a career in techonology (specifically engineering hardware like chips, etc. for AMD, ATI, Intel, anyone). How would one get started in such a career?
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You could try a micro electronic degree (my minor), which focuses on engineering REALLY small things such as microchips using techniques such as lithogoraphy. Or ge you basic electrical engineering (my major) degree which is really just the jack-of-all trades degree in the technical field.
 
Serge84 said:
1st of all, if somebody uses the stock HS for afew months, and then uses a new HS. That won't matter. Anybody can clean a chip very well with the right stuff to make it look totally new. I don't go popping off ISH's on CPU's I plan to keep for the warrenty. I don't know how in the world some could get AS5 anyware else but on the top of the ISH.

Some are so strange they use too much and get it everyware I guess and you try to find evidence of use of that? Hard when somebody uses cleaner around all of the ISH and reattaches the stock HS for a moment to have some of the old paste get onto the ISH... making it look as if it was used. When you remove the Stock HS nomatter what there will be scratches on the IHS from any HS you use.

How would you tell if a OC took place it the cpu is dead? You can't turn it on. It could have died from a lightning storm or by a overheat and blame the fan failed. You can burn them out in a way where it looks beleaveable. Overvolting could look as a result of a lightning storm. Or other reasons but really be part of a OC. Some ppl smart enough can make things look beleaveable. Like nothing but normal use was its death.

Some cpus can die early. Others are the effect of long 24/7 use with high temps. Or of overclocking. You can never totally know if somebody has that can cover up this evidence. If a CPU is totally dead then there is no way of knowing its real failure unless you reverse engineer it. Say I axidently overvolted my cpu in a OC. Even 1.75v could never kill it cus its not enough. But if it was I could say a lightning storm surged it todeath and it relates to the damage so. You always can't know the truth.

But if you deal with a dude that got cought like this. Thats a walk in the park compared to somebody that could actouly try. I can't beleave somebody could actouly think they could get away with taking off a ISH and having artic silver all over the freaken cpu hello. Not too bright if you ask me.
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True, some people are smart enough to wipe their tracks, but more often than not - we catch most of alterations that are done to processors.
 
VanFanel89 said:
Pay is shit; promotion is possible but gotta work ur ass off, and finally - this is in California, not in Texas - you gotta go through www.volt.com
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I just wanted to point out that Texas Instruments also uses only volt for hiring people at their fabs, and they are (obviously) located in Texas. My brother works at one here in Dallas, doing one small process in the huge machine that is waffer fabrication.

m1 grant said:
You could try a micro electronic degree (my minor), which focuses on engineering REALLY small things such as microchips using techniques such as lithogoraphy. Or ge you basic electrical engineering (my major) degree which is really just the jack-of-all trades degree in the technical field.
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Yeah, you'd basically need to get an EE degree that has a focus and/or minor in micro-electronics (as opposed to telecommunications). But I'd also caution you to leave your options open, as many people find they hate IC and analog design once they've taken a few of those courses. The core concepts for IC and analog design can be very challenging, and not many people can fully wrap their minds around them. All the IC classes I've taken thus far have had exceptionally high drop/fail rates compared to other EE classes.
 
rhexis said:
wow this guy was savvy enough to remove the ihs yet stupid enough to apply thermal compound to the pins???
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Thats what I was thinking. Removing the IHS is something that woudl take some computer research and knowhow. Putting AS5 all over the pins is just about the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

Maybe he got a friend to pop the IHS, but didn't consult said friend on his AS5 adventure.
 
Levii said:
I just wanted to point out that Texas Instruments also uses only volt for hiring people at their fabs, and they are (obviously) located in Texas. My brother works at one here in Dallas, doing one small process in the huge machine that is waffer fabrication.



Yeah, you'd basically need to get an EE degree that has a focus and/or minor in micro-electronics (as opposed to telecommunications). But I'd also caution you to leave your options open, as many people find they hate IC and analog design once they've taken a few of those courses. The core concepts for IC and analog design can be very challenging, and not many people can fully wrap their minds around them. All the IC classes I've taken thus far have had exceptionally high drop/fail rates compared to other EE classes.
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This is true, but if you enjoy doing it, like I do, and find that you have some skills in that area of physics, and electrical design, its not that bad. BTW I go to what I would think is a pretty challenging school: Rochester Institute of Technology.
 
Viper87227 said:
what makes you think thats him?
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take a close look at the "dead" SLI-DR... At the socket, specifically. You can even look at his explanation :)

Water cooling experiment gone awry...
 
I think he was thinking the AS5 was like a dielectric compound?

My first water cooling experiment I 100% sealed the mobo in that stuff. I could run my mobo underwater if I wanted to.
 
diredesire said:
take a close look at the "dead" SLI-DR... At the socket, specifically. You can even look at his explanation :)

Water cooling experiment gone awry...
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Haha, didnt notice that. I only saw the CPU and figured it looks find.
 
THought I would post a side by side comparison. I rotated things to try and make a close match.... I dunno. The pattern looks off.... also the plastic part of the retention bracket is removed... HUH?!?! anyways... thought my little moment in CSI land would be amusing.
funny.jpg
 
Haha, not quite... but close :LOL: our customer was from cali, this guy is from wisconsin... :p

Also the board used was an Asus A8N-SLI
 
HOCP4ME said:
Which is probably very sticky after his coffee cup fell out of the CD drive. :p
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Bwhaha thats a halarious comment right there.

Ontopic: I can't beleive someone is noob enough to do that AND try to RMA it.
 
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