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Tiny said:why is "Air Cooling" italicized?
robberbaron said:Because you voted for it.
Would you be able to hear the pump over two low speed 120mm fans? Because I'd bet you could get about the same perfomance using an XP-120 w/low speed 120mm or the new VapoChill MicroTM (aircooler) and be quieter than water.DaLurker said:Water:
1. Quieter then air for the same performance (don't think that's really debatable)
MeanieMan said:Air.
Less hardware, lighter case, just as quiet as water if done right. Plus there is 0% chance for a leak, pump failure, or fitting cracks. Something water has no control over, no matter how perfectly its done.
eggrock said:Fans can fail and excessive heat buildup can occasionally be as disastrous to your system as a water leak.
That being said, air. I have no need to wc.
MeanieMan said:If done right
LoL, VapoChill man? That's a whole other level. Besides, it's gas cooling, not air.sleepeeg3 said:Would you be able to hear the pump over two low speed 120mm fans? Because I'd bet you could get about the same perfomance using an XP-120 w/low speed 120mm or the new VapoChill MicroTM (aircooler) and be quieter than water.
Tiny said:But don't you find it infinately easier to swap parts in and out with air cooling? I have never used liquid cooling, but have watched a friend take hers apart and it just seems to me that air is more condusive to swapin' parts. Just an opinion based on no actual expeirence.
Actually, it's very much likely. If you look at Opteron CPUs, for example, you'll notice that there are even low-power versions of them, using (far) less than 60 Watt. Current Athlon 64 CPUs run cooler than Athlon XPs. Athlon XPs run cooler than the original Athlons. Pentium Ms run cooler than the P3 core they're based on.Biff said:As you all know, Prescotts run hot as hell [..] I'll probably never go back to aircooling again unless future processors run much cooler, and that's not bloody likely.
Not to get off track on this thread But a short explanation of Phase change is :Optimus said:What is this Phasing or Phase Unit that everyone keeps talking about?
MeanieMan said:
MakubexGB said:LoL, VapoChill man? That's a whole other level. Besides, it's gas cooling, not air.
Once you've selected the correct components, or obtained a kit which was put together by professionals, all one has to do is follow some simple instructions.Qveon said:i like water cooling. Air is just too, how do you say? ummm abundent.
but really i like it for its efficiency and its lack of noise. And as stated above, it is NOT just all hook up tubing and its done. It has its own art too.
Elledan said:Once you've selected the correct components, or obtained a kit which was put together by professionals, all one has to do is follow some simple instructions.
If you want to know how little people understand of aircooling, look at BTX and its supporters' claims of superior cooling. The ignorance is astounding.
That said, I agree with a previous poster's statement that watercooling has its place in certain situations, like overclocking. I just don't see it appear in every single OEM system out there, or it must be in a form as in Apple's G5.
Please sir, enlighten me to the less known dark arts of low noise/high oc air cooling. And if water is oh so simple and not an art, why isn't your vote for water? Water cools better than air, is quiter than air, and, if I may say so, looks cooler than air when set up w/ dyes and UV lamps. Apart from the money and time investment of figuring out your ass from your elbow in setting a WC system up, there aren't a whole lot of drawbacks to water.Elledan said:Air:
- more performance/$ compared to watercooling
- small initial investment
- little maintenance (keeping heatsinks free from dust)
I'd venture to say that correctly cooling with air is harder than with water, as the latter consists basically out of hooking everything up in the right order and following the remaining instructions, whereas with air every system is pretty much unique.
I've noticed that most people go for the brute-force approach, i.e., many fans, high airflow rates and a lot of noise. Less known is that there's also a correct way to cool with air, which, unfortunately for some, requires a lot more time and knowledge/experience than just installing some tubing.