The Original Ghostbusters Cast Will Return for New Movie

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  1. Chris_B

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    The funny thing about the 2016 movie is it done so badly Sony tacked "answer the call" to the name when it went up for digital and dvd release. Originally it was just called "Ghostbusters" but obviously after it underperformed Sony didn't want people to be confusing it with the original.
     
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    valid point.

    However I was alive in the 80's and there are many examples of 80's hot she still isn't in the list :)

    a few off memory

    Sybil Danning
    Carrie Fisher
    Bobbi Brown
    Phoebe Cates
    Kim Basinger
    Sade
    Christie Brinkley
    Cindy Crawford
    Kelly Lebrock
    Vanessa Williams
    Elle Macpherson
    Heather locklear
    Stephanie Seymour
    Christina Applegate
    Bo Derek

    the list continues



    But to each his own.
     
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  3. Youn

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    just looked them up and... still think the ghostbusters receptionist is hotter...

    blame it on the strong female characters in my family, perhaps...

    shaved sigourney weaver though... gotta be my favorite of all time
     
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    I had just assumed that was a tag line for the movie, I didn't realize that was supposed to be part of the title.

    Not very often you see stuff like that. Edge of Tomorrow became live. die. repeat (tag line on posters) for home release. I know it has happen a few other time, but rare as far as I know.
     
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    The only reason they (mainly Amy Pascal) were frustrated is because they legally couldn’t do a movie without his agreement. She didn’t care about a third movie but she did care about getting her all-female movie done.
     
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    Feminism just for the sake of it to make a movie is just shit. Its not like women haven’t had their fair share of amazing lead roles like Aliens and Terminator.

    The new Ghostbusters movie needed to die in a nuclear blast leaving no trace along with the director.
     
  7. Staples

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    I thought the 2016 was ok.
    I don't remember anything about the one from the 80s so I watched it and. Well, it was just ok.

    I didn't think either were very good. I don't think I will be watching this one.
    What are the ages of these guys now?

    Edit > Why are so many people saying this movie was a flop? It sold a lot better than most movies. I am sorry repressed virgins of the Internet. This movie did just fine whether you like it or not.
     
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  8. Chris_B

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    The movie needed 300 million at the box office to break even for its production and marketing budget. It lost around 70 million overall as it grossed just shy of 230 million.

    So no the movie didnt do "just fine" at all. Overall it was around a 70 million $ loss for Sony and they shitcanned any plans for a sequel pretty soon after its theatrical run.
     
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    hahaha, why would anyone believe Sony or anyone in entertainment to be accurate?

    the movie had a net production cost of about $140 million, plus whatever marketing costs...which could have been another $160m but I'm more inclined to believe that $300m profit "threshold" is some concocted figure pumped up by what certain execs feel should be in their pockets rather than how the rest of the world understands "profit"
     
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    hey, isnt those guys like, all fucking dead already? that movie from the 80's is really good, but they already looked old in there. is this gonna be like, some sort of geriatric ghostbusters? are they gonna poop their pants, or wear diapers or something? watch the clock for their meds and nap time? it will be people along with them for their needs, to check on them? :p
     
  11. Lunas

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    I think the action bits might be done by younger casted members and the 3 of 4 living og ghost busters are going to be more support. Bill Murray is by far the oldest looking of them all the other two look good for their age. But here is the thing all 3 of them are pushing it for age if they don't do it this time all 3 will not live to try again.
     
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    Some movie trivia, GB2016

    $144 million in production costs
    $75 Million in marketing. I'm being pessimistic here, usually marketing is equal to the movies production budget so $300 million (production and marketing) is a reasonable estimate.

    $128,350,574 Domestic box office <-- ticket sales.

    Sony gets HALF of this is the general rule of thumb. Sometimes more, sometimes less depending on the studio and franchise and length of run in theaters. Domestic is THE most important number to studios since it is where they make the most.

    $100,000,000 International <-- ticket sales

    International sales are just gravy as far as studios are concerned (depending on the franchise) 25-30% of the box office is common cut.

    $64,175,287 Domestic take for studio
    $25,000,000 International take for studio

    $89,175,287 total in Sony's bank account after spending at least $200,000,000 million.

    So yes, Sony got punched right in the nuts.

    Like I said, Jones should keep her mouth shut if she wants to be considered for another Sony movie considering the shit storm she generated with GB2016. Sony is going to remember losing their ass and damaging the reputation of a valuable franchise they have been trying to get back in theaters for years.
     
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    I had no idea that the marketing budget was so big. Honestly, the only place I heard of it was people on the internet complaining that their feelings were being hurt because they let girls into the club. So the take away is. This movie sold pretty well (that means it sold lots of tickets so there was lots of interest) however the investment was so big that the producer saw a fairly substantial loss.
     
  14. gdonovan

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    $144 million for a tentpole movie to relaunch a connected universe is average to low money.

    Some movie production budgets.

    Deadpool 2 = $110 million
    Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom $170 million
    Mission: Impossible - Fallout $178 million
    Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald 200 million
    Bumblebee $135 million
    Rogue One: A Star Wars Story $200 million
    Captain America: Civil War $250 million
    Suicide Squad $175 million

    Just breaking even is bad in Hollywood, major expenditures are expected to double the return, minimum.

    Ghostbusters 2016 bombed, period. And took tens of millions of Sony's dollars with it.
     
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    I think that'd be entertaining. They're all old and in a nursing home, staff thinks they're crazy, the original movie events are viewed as a 'illusion or magic trick" by the general public (fake news), Venkman's banging all the blue hairs in the nursing home, but they're forced back into ghostbusting when a series of paranormal events occur around the nursing home. Which... I guess is very similar to the plot of Bubba Ho-Tep.
     
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    My memory is fuzzy but the script that Dan Aykroyd came up with years ago was the Ghostbusters had retired and became somewhat forgotten. There was a new threat which their offspring discovered, the offspring go to their Ghostbuster parents for advice who dust off their gear which the offspring use to dispatch said threat.

    Oldtimers ride off into the sunset, franchise restarted with new faces.

    The biggest hold up for years has been Bill Murray, there is a clause which states that a new movie cannot go forward without approval of all the original principle actors. Sony at one time was even threatening to blackmail or sue Murray over this. Murray wisely felt "audiences didn't want to pay to see old fat guys chasing ghosts" which combined with how GB2 came out (a financial success but no where near the lighting in a bottle GB1 was) to some degree have to agree with Bill. Sequels almost without exception are never as good as the original and the further away you get from the first movie the more downhill it goes.

    Aykroyd has been throwing scripts at Murray for years without any luck., Considering Bill Murray is legendary in regards to enjoying his life the last several years, I can't blame him for not wanting anything to do with a sequel. Do a search for "Bill Murray crashes wedding" or "Bill Murray buys up all concert tickets and gives them to everyone in line"
     
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    Sad thing is the "stars" of the movie seem to think it was a success. :ROFLMAO:

    Whoever the fuck is responsible for letting Melissa McCarthy speak on screen should get a minimum 5 year prison term. That voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
     
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    Out of the list provided above, there is no way Annie Potts can compete with Heather Locklear, Kim Basinger, Christie Brinkley, Cindy Crawford, Kelly Lebrock, Elle Macpherson or Christina Applegate. Don't get me wrong, she aged well for a very long time and certainly looked good, but she wasn't in the league of many of the others mentioned in the post above. I've never found Sigourney Weaver all that attractive outside of Galaxy Quest. She's just never done it for me. I've never thought she was bad looking, but there are so many I'd place ahead of her as far as looks go.

    Choosing Kevin Feig was another mistake. It seems he pretty much hates men. I don't think someone like him had any understanding of what made the original film work.
     
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  19. Chris_B

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    Paul Feig, he casts women because apparently "men aren't funny".
     
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    The decisions that ultimately lead to that train wreck are an abject lesson in what not to do when rebooting a movie franchise.
     
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    Aykroyd *and* Ramis were directly involved with the story and script for the 2009 video game- and it still sucked. I shudder to think what the response would've been had they secured money to shoot a third movie with the same story from the game.

    The 84' movie was truly lightning in a bottle. No one's been able to replicate that success/response; not with the 89' sequel, the 86' cartoon or the 16' remake. And they really need to stop trying. (maybe a smaller movie with just Murray to test the waters- and then see if there's response for full-blown GB movie)


    I really want to see him sing "Suddenly Seymour" again more than anything else. And maybe Dark Helmet.
     
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    They're proud of a movie that lost money. Apparently he's not too familiar with how the Movie Industry works. :LOL:
     
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    1) Well they did get to collect a paycheck so maybe from their point of view it was.

    2) Before seeing GB2016 I went to the trouble to see "Spy" with Melissa McCarthy, directed by Fieg.. The humor wasn't to my taste.

    Bunch of teenage boy fat and vomit jokes. Which is too bad as it had bones to be something really good.

    Jason Statham was genuinely funny with what he was given to work with.
     
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    FFS some people don't know when to shut up.

    Can you image if you were personally hired to do a job and it crashed and burned and took your employers money with it?

    And then you indirectly trash your former employer 2 years later in public?

    Get use to being unemployable.
     
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  26. YeuEmMaiMai

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    I never saw the 2016 one, don't want to. Might go see the new one since it has original cast....

    SJW taint everything they touch and you would think with all of the money they lose on that film, they would just be quiet and move on....
     
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    Well see my earlier comment about how by hollywood math all movies lose money ;). So in his eyes its all funny money anyway and they did it for the art! Gah I need to wash my mouth out with soap now.
     
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    I honestly think their jokes were way beyond my understanding of the English language. I simply did not get any of it. Didn't hate the movie but I took a long nap while my brother in law seemed very happy with it at the end. Still not sure whether the reason is that he's a British guy or the fact that he likes directing plays as a hobby.
     
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    I'm really tired of the intellectual laziness of equating "I want to make something feminist" with "all female cast".
    See Aliens if you want to do it right. The women were normal people. The female soldiers could clearly do their roles and as such they were treated as peers. This is literally all real feminists want - a lack of artificial barriers. And the flip side is - the lack of artificial boosts.

    My bumper sticker says "feminism is the persistent belief that women are equals". I have to believe that's the real goal.
     
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    Sorry but I don't agree with you. One just has to look how the standards were drastically lowered so women could enter elite branches of the military to slay the lie "they just want a level playing field"

    They want their cake and eat it too. And your slice while they are at it.

    Modern feminism is nothing about being equal to men.

    God help you if you have to go to family court over child custody. You are a criminal right off the bat.
     
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    What did I post that you disagree with? I am indicating the term "feminism" has been hijacked, and I think you're agreeing.
     
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    I even quoted it.

    "This is literally all real feminists want - a lack of artificial barriers. And the flip side is - the lack of artificial boosts."

    Never met such a creature, a real feminist that you describe.

    Anyone I ran into here in true blue CT who identified as a feminist wants power over men, no consequences for poor judgement on their part and stuff they don't have to pay for.

    Your experience maybe different than mine.
     
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    But now you have! :)

    I suppose it was unclear to me with what you disagreed, I assumed it was my position. I think I agree with you, the loudest never settle for equal, they want more and more. I can't agree with their position either.

    It's unfortunate that is now the public face of feminism, but I understand why that would be the case. Rational people aren't loud...
     
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    I think what he was talking about is the differences between the original goal of feminism and what feminism has evolved into.
     
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    I agree that was the original goal. But every modern "feminist" I meet wants to demean me and make me out to be some sort of toxic person for being born male.
     
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    That sucks.

    Let's come up with a new term then which means what we want.

    "Equalist" anyone?
     
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    Women should like the 2016 movie. There were some funny parts, but really I saw it as a chick flick TBH.
     
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    I agree the reboot wasn't great but is good for a view every few years. (Forgive me, but i like kristen Wiig, lol) The ONE reboot i thought was done right was Dredd. That's a movie i'd love to see more of. Made the Stallone version look like junk imho. :dead:
     
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    Because the Stallone version was junk...
     
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    I think some of you are confused on feminism. The type of feminism we are dealing with today and what birthed this movie and others like it is called third wave or intersectional feminism. It has absolutely nothing at all to to with feminism or fighting for equality. It is 100% about hating men and more and more professional psychologists are calling it a hate group. They use claims of diversity and equality, but those claims are at direct odds with their actions. I suggest you do some research on the topic of you really want to understand why intersectional feminists should not only be ignored but shouldn't be tolerated on any level.
     
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