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The new Koolance

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Catuela

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Hey everyone, I've been wanting to watercool for a while now and I've always liked the EXOS system but never gotten one because I thought the blocks were kinda cheap. With the new Al system out it seems my concerens with the blocks have been changed.

Just wondering if anyone has seen them for sale for less than FrozenCPU has them (currently $199.00)

Some of the websites I looked at too, sell the system but don't seem to sell the blocks.. Why the hell are you going to sell half of a system??

Is there anywhere other than the Koolance website I can get the straps to secure it my machine?

Thanks
 
The EXOS is a great way to get into water cooling, there are better options, but sometimes those are better for more experienced water coolers. Some sites sell them without blocks because people want more custom options, like adding their own block or whatever. To secure it to the top of your box I'd suggest some strong velcro that sticks well to both sides.
 
Thanks Deadlierchair
Another question I have is. If i decide to use the Koolance and I add a GPU and or chipset cooler, how much temp change would I see in the CPU vs. just running the liquid to the CPU?

Oh yeah maybe I missed it in the article, but will the new block for the GPU fit on my current 9600XT and a X800 when I uprade? Or would I be looking at getting a new block?
 
the exos-AL isnt new, its been out for a while. the only recent change to the exos has been the blue LED's in the front. i have my cpu/nb/and gpu all in the loop and my load temps are in the mid-low 40's C.
 
i leave the fans on high and use some water wetter plus AS5 and i get GREAT temps... 33C idle and 42Cfull blazing load and i also have a 5900XT oced to 500+
cools both CPU and GPU very well :)
 
acascianelli said:
the exos-AL isnt new, its been out for a while. the only recent change to the exos has been the blue LED's in the front. i have my cpu/nb/and gpu all in the loop and my load temps are in the mid-low 40's C.
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Wow...what are your ambient temps? I always thought the Koolance couldn't handle a load like that...where are you getting your temps from?

Catuela: With all systems, adding more items to the loop adds heat and flow resistance, but apparently not that much. It should be able to handle a CPU/NB/GPU setup just fine, but with all of them overclocked it may have a little trouble.
 
I find it interesting that the EXOS I got serveral months back seems to be the exact same as the one reviewed except that mine isn't aluminum, it's just the normal EXOS. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing. There aren't very many differences, but it seems I have all the new "refinements" in my plain jane EXOS.

In a way I wish I had gotten the CPU300G block but I just didn't want to spend the extra money on it at the time. Anyway, I'm not too worried. I'm usually around 39-41C under full load with the fans at the slowest setting. That's also using MBM to read the on die sensor. That's not what the EXOS is reporting.
 
the AC in my house is at about 72C, and i get my temps by looking at the temp sensor from MBM and adjusting by 8C because my abit board reads temps higher than actual.
 
I just found the unit at www.pctoyland.com for 178.95 Anyone deal with these guys before? Don't want to order it but then have to wait a month for it to arrive.

You guys got me all fired up now, I can't wait to get it :)
 
I've had my Exos for about a year and a half and I really like it. I've got my cpu,nb,gpu, and 2 raptors being cooled by it. I have a portable air conditioning system in my room and right its thermostat is at 25C, and my koolance temps for idle are 36C and load of 38-39C. This of course is with 3 Tt Smart Case fans cooling the radiator and always on mode 1.
 
SmokeRngs said:
I find it interesting that the EXOS I got serveral months back seems to be the exact same as the one reviewed except that mine isn't aluminum, it's just the normal EXOS. I'm curious if anyone else has noticed the same thing. There aren't very many differences, but it seems I have all the new "refinements" in my plain jane EXOS.

In a way I wish I had gotten the CPU300G block but I just didn't want to spend the extra money on it at the time. Anyway, I'm not too worried. I'm usually around 39-41C under full load with the fans at the slowest setting. That's also using MBM to read the on die sensor. That's not what the EXOS is reporting.
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No point on getting CPU-300G block if you already have a block and performance is decent :) As for black unit having same reservoir as Al, yes all newer ones do (I have black one myself but just like reviewed :)) Very minor changes that doesn't change anything about performance eversince Exos was introduced. I can't think of better modification for this unless they redesign it from bottom up.
As for adding GPU block, my heavily OC'd 6800GT will only add 2c more to temp of CPU. Keep in mind the higher the temp delta is, better the radiator performs. So, if heat output doubles, the temp doesn't go no where near doubles :)
I reckon there ARE better cooling solutions. Hack, I've even gone to 3 rads, 2 peltier, 2 pump setup before. But for convenience, looks, and quite decent performance, Exos with new blocks are hard to beat. (Just think... the performance of new blocks exos is in par with one of the best custom setups about a 1.5 year or so ago)

Ahhh and best place to get it, keep an eye out on e-bay. Got mine brand new with new GPU/CPU block shipped for about $230 total.
 
Hi all, my question is why don't people buy the Koolance units that are already built into the cases? Koolance sells them for nearly the exact same price as the stand alone Exos unit and even cheaper if you buy the mid-tower version. http://www.koolance.com/products/product.html?code=CCS-A07&category_id=2 Sure you need to buy the CPU block, but you need to with the regular unit as well. So why not get the Exos and a free case for the same price you'd pay for just the exos? I guess if you'd want to move it from one system to the next it would be easier to have the external unit, but I upgrade my components way more often than my case. Just curious as it seems like a better deal to me.

Anthropas
 
Just ordered my EXOS :D :D Can't wait for it to come in.

The reason I don't want the case with the system built in is because I have put alot of time and effort into my case right now and I'm still really happy with it. If I started with a new case it would be weeks before I would even be ready to put a computer into it.
 
anthropas said:
Hi all, my question is why don't people buy the Koolance units that are already built into the cases? Koolance sells them for nearly the exact same price as the stand alone Exos unit and even cheaper if you buy the mid-tower version. http://www.koolance.com/products/product.html?code=CCS-A07&category_id=2 Sure you need to buy the CPU block, but you need to with the regular unit as well. So why not get the Exos and a free case for the same price you'd pay for just the exos? I guess if you'd want to move it from one system to the next it would be easier to have the external unit, but I upgrade my components way more often than my case. Just curious as it seems like a better deal to me.

Anthropas
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Well if you noticed some of us want different cases. I have Lian-Li PC-V1000B. Hard to match it's looks :) Also, the ones with cases tend to perform a little bit less. Not surprising since they have higher ambient temp to start from (case temp instead of true ambient temp). Also, filling those suckers are not the easiest exercise you can have. If someone wants to go for those cases, I actually suggest doing total custom kit. I myself don't keep same system more than 6 months (and every change there are 2-5 iterations of things I try) so it would be painful for with any of custom setup. For someone who are not changing system often to begin with, I suggest custom kit :) It is good learning experience and best performance.
 
You crazy people and your water cooling my 2500+ only goes up 1-3 degrees C on full load from idle, and that's on air :rolleyes:
 
L0s7 4 Lyf3 said:
You crazy people and your water cooling my 2500+ only goes up 1-3 degrees C on full load from idle, and that's on air :rolleyes:
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they aren't planning to run it at stock speeds, :rolleyes:
 
Sorry I didn't read this before you bought.

I have no experience with the other place you found the Exos but I've placed 4 orders with FrozenCPU in the last 2 weeks. They are NOT the cheapest on all parts, in fact, I've also ordered things from other suppliers during the last 2 weeks because FrozenCPU was too high. However, I can tell you this, I would be willing to pay slightly higher prices to FrozenCPU because all 4 orders I placed were shipped the same day, even though some were placed very late in the day, and arrived 2 days later even though I paid lowest cost shipping.

I want 4 things out of my suppliers:

1. Low prices
2. Wide selection of in-stock items
3. Fast delivery
4. Great customer service

I've only had to send something back to them once and they handled the situation flawlessly.

If they did a wee bit better job on #1, I'd not have to buy anything they carried from anyone else.

(I orginally just meant to say, "FrozenCPU is cool" :))
 
I ordered the EXOS itself from PCToyLand because I could'nt find any negative comments about them anywhere. I did not like the checkout process at the website but thats probably just because I'm so used to Newegg. I bought the blocks and a few other goodies from Newegg.

I agree with 100% about frozenCPU. I like the website the ordering process the fast service and the good customer care...I guess if you get all that you should probably expect to pay a couple more dollars. However I am a cheapskate and decided not go with them this time just cuz im really budgeting this project.
 
the stand alone exos performs better than the incase versions... reason being is your pulling outside air through it not hot case air....;)
 
RM_Bulldog said:
the stand alone exos performs better than the incase versions... reason being is your pulling outside air through it not hot case air....;)
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that and the exos's radiator is larger.
 
wow lotsa guy with the EXOS here. Before I install it it, do you guys have any must dos or don'ts that I may not have heard from reading product reviews. Anyone done any modding to them to maybe hide the waterlines from running around the back of the outside of the case. I want to say I remember a guy that drilled holes and ran the tubes out of the bottom of the EXOS and through the top of the case. Only problem I could see with this is what to do if you moved the computer.
 
dont forget to put the temperature probe under the cpu block :D i forgot to do that and had to rip it all apart again.
 
acascianelli said:
dont forget to put the temperature probe under the cpu block :D i forgot to do that and had to rip it all apart again.
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I had that happen once. I was also installing the cpu block and didn't notice that the cord got caught on one of the memory modules and pulled itself out from under the cpu block as it was being put onto the socket. Needless to say, once I got it up, I was very excited with the temps I was running at, until I was doing prime95 and noticed that the temp changed only 1C, then I went diggin' and found the problem.
 
does anyone have any dba info on these? My comp is just too loud.....looking for something to quiet it down (and keep the room cool...comp is like a tiny space heater)...
 
hey Master this is another big reason I am switching to water.
Check this out
Down towards the bottom of the page they talk about dba levels for the EXOS and for a system from swiftech.
I just recently moved my case so now it sits on a stand at head level directly to my right. The thing sounds like freaking jet taking off in its new location. I think only having the 80mm fans blowing (im gonna leave 2 80s in the case just to push HD and NB heat) so 5 80s compared to the 6 80s i have now with 2 small fans for the NB and GPU and the cooler master aero 7 fans blowing like a turbine. It has to be quiter than that.
 
i went from a Zalman 7000alcu with 5 case fans +Gpu/NB/PSU and an extra 92mm fan whipppin up some turbulance, all fans were set to low.
now i got only 2 case fans running + NB/PSU and that 92MM fan now thermally controlled ;) and the noise difference is HUGE ;) the koolance unit on low noise, on high is pretty loud to me ( around 50 dba ). i leave it on low unless im playing a game then i switch to high i dont like the koolance prob as if it says your CPU is 36C its really gonna be 5C higher or more
 
What setting do you guys prefer to keep your EXOS on? Keep full blast all the time or use the temp control?
I get kinda nervous cuz my system stays on alot when I'm not around it and I think I would like to keep it running full-bore all the time. Any problems with this?
 
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ive only had the fans accel once, and that was with the blinds open and the sunbeating in, windows closed, no a/c, 90F outside.
 
I used to keep mine on mode 2 (before I got my a/c). Sometimes it would get a little warm in my room and the koolance would flux from 96F~97F and when it hits 97 the fans would spin up 25% more then spin back down when it went to 96. Kinda got annoying after a while, especially when your trying to sleep. :p
 
Hey all,

This has been a very helpful thread! Despite a few downsides of going with the Exos that's already in the case, I couldn't pass up this deal since I'm just getting into watercooling. http://www.coolergarage.com/kopc.html Its getting here Monday for $165 delivered. I ordered the new 300 watt block from Newegg as well, so I'm hoping I'll be ready to go with the addition of some distilled water. I had a few questions for you guys with Exos's though.

1. What color is the water additive they send with the system? Is it clear or colored? I saw a review of it from a few years ago and they sent some yellow water additive.

2. Will Koolance's GPU block work without modification on the new Nvidia 6800 cards? Please answer this only if you've personally seen their block on a 6800 of some kind.

3. How much does adding a few intake and exhaust fans into the case help lower temps? Is it worth it for the performance/noise trade off? The cases are essentially Cheiftec towers with 2x80mm exhaust ports in the back. I guess I'll just have to experiment, but experienced opinions will tide me over until my new toy arrives

Thanks for the help!

Anthropas :p
 
anthropas said:
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1. What color is the water additive they send with the system? Is it clear or colored? I saw a review of it from a few years ago and they sent some yellow water additive.

2. Will Koolance's GPU block work without modification on the new Nvidia 6800 cards? Please answer this only if you've personally seen their block on a 6800 of some kind.

3. How much does adding a few intake and exhaust fans into the case help lower temps? Is it worth it for the performance/noise trade off? The cases are essentially Cheiftec towers with 2x80mm exhaust ports in the back. I guess I'll just have to experiment, but experienced opinions will tide me over until my new toy arrives
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1) green

2) yes

3) leave your case fans in, there are other things besides your cpu/gpu that airflow.
 
The EXOS comes with it's own coolant. There is no need to add anything if you are only cooling the CPU. If cooling something with the CPU you may need to add some distilled water if the included pouch of coolant isn't enough. I had enough for my setup with plenty of extra which has come in handy a couple of times when I needed to move my system. When disconnecting the fittings on the back of the EXOS, a little collant leaks out which is normal. Between that and a little evaporation I needed to add a little coolant.

btw, the coolant is green.
 
anthropas - wow that is a pretty decent deal....if only i could find a good deal on cpu/chipset/gpu blocks...

for those that have used koolance cases (spec. pc2-601) can the case be laid on its side? does it need to stand upright?
 
i use water wetter and distilled water :) and just a touch of the koolance stuff :) just cause i didnt get it all out when drainin
 
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