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Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by HardOCP News, Sep 4, 2015.
You know doing coke prevents the banging of hookers, right?
Quick! We need a pic of something aperture-like for a stargate!
We practically live in idiocracy already. What the fuck did you expect?
Quick, get Thor of the Asgard on the phone to save our butts......
God save us.
To be honest I have serious doubts about CERN, they are playing about with mega energies and doing experiments that they think the outcome of will be what they predicted, but at those energies their is no telling what could happen.
That idiot mentioning the stargate in the original link, well I seriously doubt that will happen, but what about them creating a tiny blackhole on earth due to an experiment going wrong ? Or what about during an experiment parts of france and switzerland get vapourised, or it does something to the earths axis and rotation and speed and the moon no longer has an effect on us like no 12 hour tides which would cause havoc around the world and also all the other things that the moons effect has on earth.
Ok we as humans are curious and we are always pushing the boundaries of what we can do and what we know, but sometimes I think we are pushing those boundaries far too fast and with little regard for planet and people safety.
I also have my suspicions about HAARP, sending high energy RF signals into the ionosphere whats that all about, is it the truth, is the ionosphere being damaged by it ? Is this one of the causes of global warming ?
I am not into conspiracy theories and I dont wear a tin foil hat and one of those silver fire suits to protect myself when I leave my faraday cage, but their is far too many hardcore experiments happening all over the world at the same time, how do we know that one test doesnt interfere with another and have dire consequences on that other test thats half way across the world ?
Thats my take on it, because during the cold war the russians did tests that for years made tv's and radios and other communications that worked OTA basically useless, western europe knew it was coming from russia and russia knew it was coming from within and friendly talks to stop whatever it was they were doing was met with a no thus western europe and the UK had to spend millions possibly billions on reconfiguring hardware or making new hardware that was immune to the interference.
And what the Russians were doing supposedly was using a very high powered over the horizon radar so they could see what was happening in the us and also to communicate with russian subs based in the atlantic off the eastern seaboard.
Basically what I am getting at is, nobody knows wtf is going to happen during experiments due to their very nature, but the more energy used the more chance for unintentional side effects to appear and if their was an accident or CERN split in half some type of whatever it is they look at/for, whose to say the effects wouldnt be millions or billions or even trillions of times bigger than splitting the atom back in 1945, if that happened say goodbye planet earth.
As I said, I dont believe in conspiracy theories, but I do believe in accidents and unintentional experimental outcomes.
Sorry for the long post
CERN Accident = boom for switzerland and france or for the whole world?
Am not a member of the TFHS aka Tin Foil Hat Society.
I do believe man is fallible!
Precision made parts at CERN are also fallible since they are designed and made by us and probably have a high failure rate, nice for one to fail on a high energy experiment, wonder what the outcome would be ?
Sorry again for the long post.
Even if a black hole could be created by cern it would do none of that it would be an atom sized one and it would not be traveling at the speed of light to cross our orbital path... It would in reality have the same effect as a fart in the wind... it would be created then nano seconds later it would be gone.
Also cern will need to be made 10000x as powerful as it is to even make a micro black hole let alone a nano scale black hole...
This guy is just following L. Ron Hubbard's formula for making up a religion & getting rich off of stupid people.
How so? Though amphetamines tend to do that to some people, I've never heard this about coke.
riding his brand new O'Neill ship
The best way I can put it is, you need to familiarize yourself with partical physics. The reality is the black hole fear is entirely unfounded.
Seems like a waste of resources using the LHC like that. I thought all you needed to make a stargate was some monster cables and a microwave. ..
...and some mega stretchy cling film.
I dont even claim to know particle physics, but cern is here to stay and will get upgrades in the future or even a bigger much more powerful cern will be built somewhere in the world, probably the next thing similar to cern will be a larger one in the US.
All I am saying is that the more energy they put into doing these experiments means that if something goes wrong some shit really bad is gunna happen, whether thats a huge explosion or something else I do not know.
Plus as I mentioned earlier, an experiment in itself is inherently unstable because in an experiment nobody can tell what the outcome will be as their could be millions or billions of different outcomes.
Particle physics is way over my head but nobody, even a particle physicist cant guarantee 100% safety during these experiments and these experiments are only going to get more powerful over the coming years and no doubt larger versions will be built which will need even more juice to run at max power.
Thats the way I look at it, I dont lose sleep over it, I dont even think about it. Had this thread not been here CERN and what happens there wouldnt even cross my mind.
I know man has to soldier on and do as much experiments in every field imaginable so as to gather as much info as possible for the good of mankind, so I am not against them, I am just against the ones that can potentially harm humans if some type of problem happened during said experiments, e.g when they were about to test the first ever nuke they did not know if it would wipe out the entire world by making the atmosphere catch fire ( dont quote me on that but it was something similar that was mentioned ) yet they went ahead and detonated the bomb anyway.
Anyway when it gets down to the nitty gritty, ive got much much more pressing things to worry about than some experiments.
Good lord, CERN cannot create a black hole, miniture or otherwise. Some crack pot with very poor math skills claimed it could and the media ran with it.
While we cannot predict every outcome, we can know a lot from the mathmatics behind the science. Cern won't blow up the planet, and frankly if it does, nothing of value will be lost universally speaking. Move forward or go extinct.
Long and short.
CERN is dealing with tiny particles. So small that their mass can barely be measured.
Black holes are essentially massive bodies where gravity has overcome outward pressure.
And, while it would, TECHNICALLY, be possible to create a hyper-gravity event, the energies of the CERN collider are simply too low to achieve this. And, on the off chance that they DID, the resultant micro-black-hole would evaporate into Hawking Radiation almost immediately.
And on the REALLY off chance that they'd create a STABLE singularity? It's be neutral in charge and no real danger to the Earth (and would be interesting as fuck!). Basically, if such a thing were possible at CERN, we'd be seeing them created by cosmic rays in space, and such singularities would eventually come to rest in neutron stars and the like. The fact that we're seeing no such disruption argues fairly strongly toward the fact that:
A) We can't create singularities at CERN
B) Such singularities would be stable and not dangerous (their event horizon would be smaller than a hydrogen atom, so it couldn't actually "eat" anything).
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, are you serious ?
All my hookers and blow will go missing and I will need them for living on the International space station.
I actually think I learned something reading your post, no shit,
Good post, seriously.
Also to clarify things, I know I said a blackhole in previous posts, I didnt really think it could create one, I was more worried about all the power they throw into the thing when doing these experiments, could that go bang all at once or would the safety systems like the breakers in our house stop it all from going bang ? Because a helluva lot of juice goes through that thing in the middle of the night when they are doing experiments.
Also a question, if all that power went bang at once, roughly how large of an explosion would it be like ? Small nuke sized, say in the single digit figures of kilotons or would its just be like a few normal 2000lb'rs stacked together ? Just curious is all.
Uhh like maybe a lightning bolt.
There would not be some sort of massive explosion...
When you think of how a particle accelerator works think of a hot wheels race track with multiple flywheel accelerators.
The car is a particle the flywheels are magnetic fields to accelerate the particles. The reason for the size of the accelerator is to accelerate tiny particles to near the speed of light before diverting it to a target.
It passes by alternating magnetic fields as it goes it speeds up faster and faster until it reaches experiment speed then they divert it off path into target material be it uranium or what ever the result the particle hits like a bullet things either break or join and form new materials.
Hypothetically if one could accelerate a particle to or beyond the speed of light it would technically by Einsteins theory it would require infinite mass and infinite energy to get tot he speed of light. There are particles proven to not listen to this theory and there are many holes in it. And this is a bit of an guess on my part but the infinite mass part of the equation points to a singularity or black hole quite simply this is a theory nothing more...
And yes i am aware it is a gross over simplification of particle physics.
But cern is a massive complex with massive liquid helium cooled super magnets and lots of electricity nothing really there to explode but i suppose they could if they did so intentionally make the whole thing into a nuclear bomb but that is another thing i don't really know i suppose in theory if they put a massive quantity of uranium in and shot a dense enough particle stream at it they could initiate a nuclear reaction. But we are talking more processed weapons grade uranium than they would even keep on site...
Well HAARP is probably what Tesla tried to do in Wardenclyffe - thump the Earth at the right freq to create a standing wave. But blame that thought on me only.
I'm spending the next 18 days assuming that whatever is going on at CERN is going to cause it to rain skittles, puppies, medium-well steaks, home depot gift cards, cocaine and nasty 32 year old virgin hookers on September 24th. Trampolines and swimming pools will be worth a fortune if this happens, else it's gonna be messy.
I feel like I have the same chance of being right as the author of the article but I am looking forward to my version. If I'm wrong and he's right, I definitely had a better last 18 days than him!
when they make one by mistake, let me just state, Told you so....today
That could be a pretty cool way to refresh a planets surface.
Maybe keep that one in our arsenal when "Battle of the Planets" emerges as truth!
Just so we're on the same page - I meant it's being used to thump upwards. IIRC the array sends RF (100-200? MHz) powerful pulses directed at the sky. So the way I see it, a standing wave in the ionosphere would be a gradient/pattern quantative globally. For communication purposes or geolocation - dunno. Just rambling.
Ah damn, I thought you meant T0T@L D3STRUCT1O0000N !!!
No way, not till I pay off my loans, I mean that would be cheating
I may or may not have secretly connected all the fences in my neighbourhood to form a transmitter array.
Just this week, the military has turned HAARP over to the local university. If the university gets enough customers, they might not sell it for scrap.
The mystery is all gone; HAARP is just "a group of high-frequency radio transmitters powered by four diesel tugboat generators and one from a locomotive." Not much of a heater compared to the sun.
Also I'd blame lack of tact in choosing the name of the thing. Instead of Large Hadron Collider, they should have named it 'The Pink Doughnut Of Happiness" and people wouldn't be so suspicious.
Ever popped a capacitor? Or fried electronics in a lightning strike?
Lots of equipment at CERN would go POP. Though, since it's all SUPERMCLARGEMCHUGEBIG stuff, the POP is going to be AWFUL LOUD!
Actually, CERN, as it was originally built, had problems with stuff not being QUITE spec. So they had to run at lower power levels up until a refit a few years back or risk The Almighty POP.
Basically they'd destroy a bunch of equipment and possibly a little real-estate around it with electrical fires. But the safety protocols in place during a run SHOULD prevent them from frying anyone save by some Rube Goldbergian accident.
Every time I see "HAARP", I keep expecting a couple of Sinanju practitioners to show up and kill the fuck out of everything in the area...
Nah, part of the wonder of the bomb is, if you don't compress your fissionable material evenly and in the proper manner, all you do is toss off lots of radiation. No *Boom*. Not even a fizzle.
That is why i said i don't really know all the details i was just figuring hypothetically speaking they could emulate how little boy worked but yeah little boy used 141 lbs of uranium 235 i doubt they keep more than 2kg of the stuff at the LHC and like it was said the bomb is much more complex. And yet another fart in the wind happens if it is not done correctly.
Based on dates I have had: Coke, Meth, and lots of others have the same effect.
Desire goes way up and the other thing goes way down.
Many have told me it never happens to them, dont worry. It happens.
Myself my blood pressure is high enough without taking a stim.