The "disgruntled" cabbage owners thread....

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Aaron_ATX

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As you more fortunate players of the opteron lottery may know, you have a seldom talked about, stunted sibling stepping known as "cabbage". ( CABGE ) While the more fortunate steppings are buzy running 3.4837ghz, undervolted with a passive heatsink cooled lightly by a rat running in a wheel......most of the cabbage users seem to be strangely, well, silent.

If the cabbage owners of the overclocking world are reading, please speak up with your thoughts! Anyway, here is my experiance so far.

Prior to this opteron, my first shot at AMD 64 overclocking was with a 3200 venice that was quite happy @ 2.8ghz on my nf3 gigabyte mobo. Entire rig was sold to a friend, so I had the chance to start over.

The guts:
Opteron 146 (OSA146DAA5BN CABGE 0534SPMW)
SI-120 + 120mm Silverstone fan (110ish cfm)
512x2 Corsair TCCD pcb version 1.2 (twinx pc3200xl 2225)
Abit KN8 Nforce4 (have a DFI rdx200 also but the only thing it has succeeded to so at this point is look fruity and be expensive)
Enermax 535w noisetaker

Let me first point out that I cant believe noone has mentioned this abit board yet. I grabbed it at fry's for $95 while DFI gets the rdx sorted out....Vdimm goes to 3.2, vcore goes to 1.85, tons of other voltage adjustments including damn near every ram adjustment that I have ever seen. Voltages seem on spot according to the software, overall I am pleased with it....getting off track a bit now, sorry.

Quite simply this processor won't do anything without voltage. Quick tests got me 2.4ghz @ 1.54vcore, and my quest for 2.5ghz has me @ 1.63vcore currently. Fortunately my air cooling setup isnt even breaking 40c under load, so I have a bit of headroom to play with.

Tested the board to at least 300HTT with no issues, and so far i've been able to get my ram as high as 260 (2.5 3 3 6@2.9v, 1:1, T1) once I did some massive tweaking away from "auto" ram settings for my tccd.



So as it stands now I am trying to get over 2450 on the cpu stable to determine where I can clock my ram. I may just keep pushing the ram to see if I can clip 300mhz and run an 8 multiplier. In the unlikely event I have any additional flashes of brilliance this evening I will post it up.

Otherwise, please post some of what you have learned about the dreaded cabbage!
 
howdy. here is my cabge 0536 something. i ordered it from monarch a couple weeks ago after they floated a rumor on xtremesystems.org that all the next 146's they were getting were cabne 0536, then raised the price $20. of course, everyone got a cabge.

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check out that maxTcase. nice. maxTcase on my 3800 x2 is 69C. even got a crappy 3dmark score. eventually did 2820 ish stable on decent air, 1.65v vcore, 50C load. but ive been fooling around with this 144 cab2e i got from tankguys today, burning in @ 2900 1.45v vcore, will go over 3ghz tomorrow. or maybe later.
 
Heh yeah I am right there with you
Code: 
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID:	Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID:	Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String:	20F71
Processor APIC:	0
Processor:	 AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed:	2336.35 (259.59 x 9.0)
Revision:	 SH8-E4
Platform:	 Socket 939
Startup VCore:	1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 55C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: [url]http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=83[/url]

Got an a64 tweaker screenie of all your ram settings?
 
God, I knew that the CABBAGE was bad but 2.5Ghz at high voltage..ouch...Here wishing you guys luck.
 
well its not like 2.8 isn't a respectable clockspeed though. good for the price anyways.

" @ 2900 1.45v vcore" holy god, nice!
 
Given that CPUs are like the proverbial "box of chocolates" (eg. never knowing what one will really get, regardless of stepping)...it is with supreme disappointment that upon eagerly, (and I mean eagerly), tearing into my New Egg box yesterday I pulled out my brand new spankin' Opteron Venus 150...CABGE :(

I also got a UT Nf4 SLI-DR and 2gb Ballistix in the same box, so I set out to get the build going.

I can't tell you how much of a bummer it is to perform Google search after Google search (this is at 3am, cause I couldn't sleep...hehe) only to have reinforced that this stepping is like the anti-christ, unequivocal black sheep, red-headed stepchild of the AMD stable. The fact it cost $365 doesnt make it go down any easier, considering SD 3700+'s seem to be able to regularly nail 2.8+ghz and cost $130 less. This was my first choice, but let's face it, I succumbed to "Opty Fever".

BUT, I really don't know what to expect. I am sidetracked at the outset, as 1 stick of the Ballistix started throwing errors in Memtest right away. The other stick checked out fine.
So, I have to RMA the stuff, and it will be awhile before I get the replacement.

Who knows how it will go? I have read a precious few reviews of folks that had good CABGE results, albeit under phase cooling/vapo stuff. I'm on air. At this point, I suppose I need to adjust my expectations to be satisfied to hit 2.8. We'll just have to see how it goes. I had high hopes for this chip, but perhaps I may not be so lucky.

Cheers,
 
Cproflow said:
Given that CPUs are like the proverbial "box of chocolates" (eg. never knowing what one will really get, regardless of stepping)...it is with supreme disappointment that upon eagerly, (and I mean eagerly), tearing into my New Egg box yesterday I pulled out my brand new spankin' Opteron Venus 150...CABGE :(

I also got a UT Nf4 SLI-DR and 2gb Ballistix in the same box, so I set out to get the build going.

I can't tell you how much of a bummer it is to perform Google search after Google search (this is at 3am, cause I couldn't sleep...hehe) only to have reinforced that this stepping is like the anti-christ, unequivocal black sheep, red-headed stepchild of the AMD stable. The fact it cost $365 doesnt make it go down any easier, considering SD 3700+'s seem to be able to regularly nail 2.8+ghz and cost $130 less. This was my first choice, but let's face it, I succumbed to "Opty Fever".

BUT, I really don't know what to expect. I am sidetracked at the outset, as 1 stick of the Ballistix started throwing errors in Memtest right away. The other stick checked out fine.
So, I have to RMA the stuff, and it will be awhile before I get the replacement.

Who knows how it will go? I have read a precious few reviews of folks that had good CABGE results, albeit under phase cooling/vapo stuff. I'm on air. At this point, I suppose I need to adjust my expectations to be satisfied to hit 2.8. We'll just have to see how it goes. I had high hopes for this chip, but perhaps I may not be so lucky.

Cheers,
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God, that is a sad tale. Good luck with your overclock. The Cabbage core is bad but not that bad. They can still hit 2800mhz with high voltage. I have to admit that a lot of people will post insane overclocks with the CABNE (passed 3.1Ghz) but a lot of those are not prime95 stable. You should be able to get about 2800 prime stable. From a performance stand point, now that my new CABNE hit passed 3Ghz prime stable (thus satiating my obsession with 3Ghz), I really can not tell the difference between this and the first core I got a while ago, a SD 4000+ CABGE core getting 2788 Prime stable.
It is more bragging rights. Besides by next week I am sure new chips will come that blow these out of the water.
Best of luck
 
Heh well i've got mine stable (32m superpi at least) @ 2500 with the ram @ 1:1 ....1.7vcore hah.

Curious if it really is getting that much juice....load temps rarely break 40c. Getting a multimeter shortly to check it out.
 
I'm reading lots of posts from folks that say they are having stability problems with dividers.....cant say that I am. 2500 seems to be the end of the road for my chip, in any configuration of ram or htt that I can think of....and requires dang near 1.7v on the core to do it.
 
Aaron_ATX said:
I'm reading lots of posts from folks that say they are having stability problems with dividers.....cant say that I am. 2500 seems to be the end of the road for my chip, in any configuration of ram or htt that I can think of....and requires dang near 1.7v on the core to do it.
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Try it with your RDX200..
 
Aaron_ATX said:
I'm reading lots of posts from folks that say they are having stability problems with dividers.....cant say that I am. 2500 seems to be the end of the road for my chip, in any configuration of ram or htt that I can think of....and requires dang near 1.7v on the core to do it.
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Sell it on Ebay and get a new one :).
 
Aaron_ATX said:
Heh well i've got mine stable (32m superpi at least) @ 2500 with the ram @ 1:1 ....1.7vcore hah.

Curious if it really is getting that much juice....load temps rarely break 40c. Getting a multimeter shortly to check it out.
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Sorry about the luck, how are you checking cpu voltage with a dmm? I've heard of people mentioning it, but I've only found articles on checking psu rails.
 
i've checked the standard stuff with my multimeter but I dont know where to measure vcore vdimm etc on the board.....
 
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