Tesla Is Working On Robotic Snakes

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  1. HardOCP News

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    Tesla is working on robotic snakes full of electricity? Wasn't it Elon Musk that said that reliance on AI was "summoning the demon?" :eek:

     
  2. Kueller

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    Bet he could sell it to the military for midair refueling for 100x the price it fetches in the civilian market.
     
  3. amddragonpc

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    Paging Samuel L. Jackson ...
     
  4. Geonerd

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    Great. Just great!

    Because Skynet + Hentai = So Much Fun!

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  6. Zarathustra[H]

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    It would seem to me that a capacitive charger on your garage floor would be a simpler (if potentially less efficient) solution...
     
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  8. CreepyUncleGoogle

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    They'll probably just catch on fire or explode like everything else that company designs.
     
  9. chaikovski2002

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    Are people really this lazy? You cant plug in your car to charge over night? The fuck!
     
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    Just wait for the for.ware bug where it thinks the charging point is in your butt
     
  11. Zarathustra[H]

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    I don't see it as laziness as much as it is a protection against forgetfulness.

    It would kind of suck if you couldn't go to work in the morning, because you were in a rush with the kids emptying the groceries out of the car, and forgot to plug in.
     
  12. Zarathustra[H]

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    troll troll troll.

    Tesla's safety record is orders of magnitude better than that of conventional cars.

    They received the best safety score every recorded on any vehicle in both the NHTSA and Euro NCAP tests.

    They are rapidly approaching 100,000 cars, with only a handful of car fires. Compare that to gas cars, and they are actually doing MUCH MUCH MUCH better.

    A Tesla is superior to a conventional car in almost every single way, with three exceptions:
    1.) Range
    2.) Refuel time
    3.) Price

    ...and they are rapidly working on these.

    They are more reliable, safer, faster than most in their price class, have more convenient features, etc. etc. etc, not to mention the gas savings, and environmental impacts.
     
  13. CreepyUncleGoogle

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    What are you talking about? They've only been around for like a couple of years so the number of fires and deaths and exploding and everything else they do is lots and lots worse on like a per number of cars on the road thing than other cars. They've even been like a fire hazard without being driven anywhere when they're recharging or whatever. That'd be fun to wake up to and see in your apartment parking lot in the middle of the night, your dumb electrical car on fire.
     
  14. Zarathustra[H]

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    Bullshit.

    The fires occurred after collisions with objects on the road at high speed.

    The odds of a car fire in a Tesla is about 1 in 8000, approximately a fifth of that in a conventional car.
     
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    Stop feeding the troll. He contributes nothing else.
     
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    Wouldn't it be easier to just design an additional port that is underneath the car? Your garage would get a device that moves up and plugs in to it. Cameras and the available tracking software for them already exist to allow the device to lock on and dock even when out of alignment.

    I'm a Tesla fan, but why reinvent the wheel on this.
     
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    I'm sorry but in all my 42 years on this planet I've seen perhaps a dozen car fires and even those are mostly caused by collisions. That's like 12 in 10 000 000. Why would you think conventional cars would spontaniously catch fire like that?
     
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    Because perspective requires common sense. Common sense gets in the way of agenda. Its been said many times the 'stats' Elon used to compare include arson fires for 15 year old clunkers. But its like water off a duck's back.

    Also a couple of the public fires weren't collisions. They were cars running over debris at city driving speeds.

    And if the stats were so great, why did Tesla add an underbody shied to their cars?
     
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    I am very curious to see if electric cars are indeed more eco friendly than their gasoline equivalent. I mean lithium and rare earth that goes into batteries are typically mined in remote place by heavy gas guzzling mining equipment and then they are transported thousands of miles on dirt road to rail stations and from there to the refineries who uses some very toxic process to extract said minerals. then they are send to manufacturers to be made into various components of an electric car. All of this seems to be more energy intensive than the current oil operations around the world.

    I says this because the price of various product that we consume is a good reflection of the cost of energy that goes into making it. Money = Energy. So based on the Tesla car price, maybe it's eco brand is more hype than substance.
     
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    Robotic Snakes?? Aren't those in some old western, with robots. Who of course go all skynet and kill everyone.

    Found it: Westworld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld

    holy unrelated crap, HBO is remaking the above movie into a series??!?
     
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    Any CEO that uses "for realz" in a tweet has my vote.
     
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    How about a collapsible dock/probe that connects to the front of the car as you drive in?
     
  24. Zarathustra[H]

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    I agree that comparing the incident rates to every vehicle on the road irrespective of age is not perfect, but it is what we have, as data can be difficult to come by.
    In this particular case the comparison is actually less bad than you think, and may serve to strengthen the argument. Fuel lines and heat shielding get old and compromised over time. Something that is much less likely to be a problem when you don't have fuel and have much less heat.

    There have been 4 reported incidents of fires in almost 100,000 manufactured cars thus far:
    1. Kent, Washington Hit solid metal debris at highway speed
    2. Mexico, high speed collision, crashed through wall and into tree
    3. Tennessee, hit tow hitch on road at highway speed
    4. Toronto garage fire. This one is unconfirmed. There was a fire in the garage, but the electrical components of the car were apparently undamaged, so it is unlikely the fire started there. Not clear what caused the fire.

    So, we have three collisions with objects (or walls) and one 4th unconfirmed fire that likely has nothing to do with the car at all.

    I don't have data for car fires in the first 2 years of a new model, so I can't due a complete comparison, but I'm willing to wager that 3 confirmed cases in 100,000 units, all caused by high speed collisions compares rather favorably.

    It's worth noting that while the NHTSA opened a preliminary investigation to look into the issues, they closed it when they didn't find any cause for further investigation.

    Public perception.

    I would have preferred they didn't take any action. The titanium shield isn't a big deal only lowering range by 0.1%, but the altering of the cars programming to make it ride higher at highway speeds could affect handling and stability. When I can finally afford one of these, I'd prefer it to ride lower, per its original specs.
     
  25. CreepyUncleGoogle

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    I hate to say it, but I think you drank too much of the Elmo Monk brand kool-aid. :D

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  26. Zarathustra[H]

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    Yes, because relying on verifiable facts and data means I drink cool-aid.

    Sounds more like you are a Luddite unable to accept the best thing on four wheels to ever happen to the automotive industry.
     
  27. CreepyUncleGoogle

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    LOL a car that catches on fire when its parked and sitting around that can't go on a long drive someplace and takes forever to fill up? Your facts are pretty much impossible to prove as factual anyway.
     
  28. Zarathustra[H]

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    4 in 100,000 have caught fire. 3 of which from high speed impacts and one garage fire that is undetermined and likely has nothing to do with the car. This is in "being killed by a nolt of lightening" territory of ptobability.

    Either you are truly trolling, or you have absolutely no concept of probablilty.

    Yes, there are range limitations and it takes time to recharge, but these are improving all the time. Considering most people drive 30 miles or less to work each day, this means it is more than suitable for most people.
     
  29. Zarathustra[H]

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    Actually, a correction.

    If we assume that all 4 incidents were a direct fault of the car, that results in a ~1/25,000 chance of a Tesla Model S fire.

    According to NOAA your chances of being struck by lightning in your lifetime are ~1/12,000.

    So, you are about double as likely to be struck by lightning as you are as a Model S owner to have a car fire.

    And that completely disregards that 3 of the 4 fires were caused by high speed collisions and one is unconfirmed, and likely has nothing to do with the car...