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T1 vs. DSL
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I don't honestly see where you can even compare the two. The only upside to having a dedicated T1 would be to have symetrical bandwidth(1.554 up, 1.544 down) as to DSL usually has like 1.5 down, and 256-768 up depending on the provider. It is also a lot cheaper.
The average price of a T1 depending on the provider, will run anywhere from $500-$1000 a month compared to $40-$50 a month for DSL.
Just my two pennies.
The average price of a T1 depending on the provider, will run anywhere from $500-$1000 a month compared to $40-$50 a month for DSL.
Just my two pennies.
ethos747474nikon8989
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I like dial up better than T1 or DSL
well currently we have a DSL modem of our company; but we need faster upload speed
I signed a one-year contract for a T1 line but I'm only getting 1378 kbps download and 979 kbps upload speed
compared to
2733 kbps download and 368 kbps upload with my DSL modem
my question is we see speed slowdown when we get heavy internet usage on the DSL modem will that change with a T1
also should my T1 speeds be higher?
I signed a one-year contract for a T1 line but I'm only getting 1378 kbps download and 979 kbps upload speed
compared to
2733 kbps download and 368 kbps upload with my DSL modem
my question is we see speed slowdown when we get heavy internet usage on the DSL modem will that change with a T1
also should my T1 speeds be higher?
QwertyJuan
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I actually prefered it when we were on 2400baud and the like.... we had the cat by the tail!!
QJ
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35thss said:
Upgrade the DSL.... we have 8mb down and 768kb up here....
QJ
Whoa there, speedy. I started out life on a 300 baud modem.TechLife said:
Smokin'.
Turns out it was actually faster to go to my friend's house ( where the bbs lived that I was trying to download the file from ), drop the files on a floppy, and drive home.
Still, I miss those days. There's something cold and impersonal about today's internet. BBSes were familar, usually run by people you knew.
Did your T1 SP make any promises as to guaranteed speeds on the contract you signed? An SLA perhaps? If there is you should be up for a credit because it certailny should be 1.5/1.5
I'd give them a call either way and see if there is anything they can do to help you out here... I'm sure they are charging you plenty for that line.
OT: @XOR!=OR: Yes sir, a good old 5-1/4" floppy or 6 lol
I'd give them a call either way and see if there is anything they can do to help you out here... I'm sure they are charging you plenty for that line.
OT: @XOR!=OR: Yes sir, a good old 5-1/4" floppy or 6 lol
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SLA's is what make them worth it.
I compare that to standing in the middle of New York during rush hour (the internet) to living in a small town of < 100 people (BBSes). They were very run and each site had their own following. I ran several during my early teen years.
this is the website I was using to determine my speed
I used the Chicago choice.
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
I used the Chicago choice.
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
The speed of your T1 depends on the gear used. If you have a crap then you will see some speed loss. It also depends on the hops to the site your testing at. you will get 1.54 to the first hop and less from there. Another thing that matter is the ISP. Some are Teir 1 teir 2 tier3 and lower. If you get a T1 for a good company then you should get 1.54 down and maybe slightly less up. I have a T1 at work and we get 1.3 down and 1 up. But were not useing any cisco gear. just the cheap shit they give you for free. (side note the T1 is broken off into data and voice lines) Max should be 1.3 up and down for me
our provider is Choice one
i think there a teir 3 provider. It was the only option at the time we got it
our provider is Choice one
i think there a teir 3 provider. It was the only option at the time we got it
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QwertyJuan said:
What'd I do?
Let go of my tail!
Wolf-R1 said:
I get pretty close to full speed on my T1. It really depends on the test site, and possible congestion between the two. I never truely trust the numbers pulled off test sites.
Our 10Mbps line(sync) jumps all over the place on bandwidth tests. It is fun to test every once in a while though.
I went and did that online test and got 4805 kb/s download and 358 kb/s upload.
Back to the topic though, If it's for business use and the business is medium to large I would most definately go with a T1 line. Especially if your planning the business on growing. Although it all depends on the need's of the business.
Back to the topic though, If it's for business use and the business is medium to large I would most definately go with a T1 line. Especially if your planning the business on growing. Although it all depends on the need's of the business.
35thss said:wish I could we live in the #$%#^%^ boonies up here and can't get DSL any faster
You might want to look into the wireless motorola canopy technology, if any ISP's in your area offer it. I just ran that test, 1217 download, 360 upload using 802.11b technology for my internet access (basically a wifi-bridge setup connected to a DS3 line at the other end).
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depends on if it's SDSL or ADSL. if SDSL, i've seen 786/786 for a fraction of the price of T1's. do they even have 1.5/1.5 SDSL? dunno. if you can get FIOS, get it =). def way better than T1.
heh, half is a fraction.
768/768 DSL is around $380 a month here, I can get a full T1 for $600. Thats why I didn't bring it up.
Generally the phone company does offer a better guarantee on the uptime over standard DSL if you get the 384/384 or 768/768 connection.
768/768 DSL is around $380 a month here, I can get a full T1 for $600. Thats why I didn't bring it up.
Generally the phone company does offer a better guarantee on the uptime over standard DSL if you get the 384/384 or 768/768 connection.
Green.
Here's one for you: What is the difference between a duck?
I really need to know.
Hehehe no really, don't just trust one dslreports speed test for your speeds. Try a few sites/tests, and if you're not satisfied, call your provider. They should be able to investigate for a paying business customer!
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Is it further to Toronto or by bus?
QJ
QJ
Bonded T1s. Seriously, if your company can afford a T1, 2 bonded T1s are an incremental cost. Verizon T1 - ~$600/mo. Bonded T1s from Verizon - ~$800/mo. When we got the price quote we were kicking ourselves for not upgrading sooner. Symmetrical 3.0 mbps is pretty quality.
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Wolf-R1 said:You upgraded to 14.4k and he had to hold on for dear life!
Ahhh the good old days of playing Quake1 over dial up.
And man were things flying when 33.6 modems came out..then 56....WOW
On another note....
Reliability of DSL versus Ts...I've gotta say...years ago DSL was quite unreliable..as phone companies got into their learning curve, PPPoE upgrades, etc....but lately...man, I have an aweful lot of clients using it..I've gotta say....it's quite solid, at least the couple of ISPs in my area.
I usually have my clients get business grade DSL.....in theory, higher uptime and first to come back up when outages occur.
I do believe there are regulations about downtime with DSL, but none as far as I know for cable internet.
The higher priority with business class, I dunno. If the DSLAM is down for some reason, I don't think they can bring up parts of it. I've dealt with that with a few customers, most swapped to business ADSL for the higher download speed, uptime was the same.
The higher priority with business class, I dunno. If the DSLAM is down for some reason, I don't think they can bring up parts of it. I've dealt with that with a few customers, most swapped to business ADSL for the higher download speed, uptime was the same.
There must be some promotional price involved in that. Everywhere I've ever seen, a second T1 bonded with the first is usually no less than 90% the cost of the first. I've never seen two bonded T1s less than $1000. That would be awesome though, 3Mb sym. Tasty.da sponge said:
Wireless is not a mature enough technology to come even close to matching the reliability of a T1, or even DSL IMHO. Not to mention upload speeds are well below a T1.bob said:
amenthes said:
300Mbps is avalible, but its ~20k per link. Im going to mess my pants as soon as my ISP finishes their upgrades, going from the 60Mbps single link from DS3 to three 300Mbps lines from several different backbones running through this area (few from banks, one from the telephone company).
I dont know how 'reliable' the motorola P2P setup is, but Im assuming since 2 ISPs in this down are using it as their majior backbone for DSL, it cant be too shabby.
You meant Kbps, correct?bob said:
I wasn't aware there was a wireless tech.capable of those speeds. Any idea what technology they're using? Is that the Motorola equipment you're referring to?bob said:
When I say wireless isn't reliable, I'm referring to the service usually offered to home or business subscribers. There is some very reliable Point to Point setups out there, but as you say they run into many thousands of dollars.
We have had a fairly large wireless rollout around this area, and I've heard plenty of horror stories about interference, loss of signal, etc. It all depends on the geography and weather of course.... But it generally seems to be far less reliable, and far slower, than competing technologies.
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Motorola Canopy is 'supposed' to be capable of 7Mb/sec.... I am currently using it with a 600/150 package.... but have used a FULL T1 on it before, and it worked flawless.
P.S. Don't ask me about using the full T1, cause I can't say how! All I'm gonna say, is if the ISP found out, they wouldn't be too impressed LOL
QJ
P.S. Don't ask me about using the full T1, cause I can't say how!
All I'm gonna say, is if the ISP found out, they wouldn't be too impressed LOLQJ
XOR != OR said:
Yup.
T1 is for a connection you know will always be up. Metro fiber is a better technology than T1. You can get 1-100MB of up/down speed. I just recently replaced my T1 that I was paying $500ish a month for a metro fiber 10mb up/down connection that I pay $1800 for. 600% increase in speed for 2.5 times the cost. Great thing is if I want more bandwidth they just turn up the dial. No equipment change because it is fiber.h