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Stupid, stupid idea for a case....

As for the CHL/Open carry debate... I really wonder how much this whole "gun rights" thing has contributed to the police viewpoint of citizens. Being born in 1976 and growing up in OK, I can't think of a single instance of seeing anyone other than police with guns in public all the way through my college years (2000). It honestly wasn't until I moved to Texas that I started hearing about CHL stuff.. and it has just continued to escalate across the US since then. Violent crimes and murder appear to be down compared to say mid-1980's, but we have even more people clamoring for the right to carry weapons at all times.

It made things so much simpler... if you had a gun either you were a police officer, military personel, or.. someone to stay away from. Cops didn't have to worry about if you had a reason for that weapon.. you didn't. You didn't have to worry about getting shot for having a weapon.. because you didn't.

Sorry.. I don't care where I am but if I see someone with a gun that isn't in uniform... I'm going to be nervous and find a way to leave that environment as soon as possible. However, that's because of how I was raised (guns are for hunting, any other use just doesn't make sense outside of law enforcement). Out on the street, that's why we have police... but I was also raised to always respect officers and follow all orders. The idea of talking back (even if you know they are wrong) goes against every believe I was raised with. I've been stopped and ticketed for failing to obey stop signs even when I did.. no argument. Stopped for speeding when I wasn't.. accept it and move on. It's not my place to argue or resist a police officer, that's why there is a justice system to argue perceived wrongs.
 
farscapesg1 said:
Out on the street, that's why we have police... but I was also raised to always respect officers and follow all orders. The idea of talking back (even if you know they are wrong) goes against every believe I was raised with. I've been stopped and ticketed for failing to obey stop signs even when I did.. no argument. Stopped for speeding when I wasn't.. accept it and move on. It's not my place to argue or resist a police officer, that's why there is a justice system to argue perceived wrongs.
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See I was raised like that as well. Unfortunately, it seems to be different for black people where any interaction with police is fraught with fear of what they may do to you and it's worse now that social media seems to advertise videos of people being shot by police on a daily basis.
 
BlueFireIce said:
Why would you think that you see a gun the person is doing something illegal? Most states it is legal to open carry, most criminals do not open carry, most criminals also do not use a holster.
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But the real question in my mind is why do they need to carry in the first place? We didn't have guys walking through Wal-Mart in 1985 with a Glock on their hip, and violent crime statistics are actually down from that period of time. Back then, if you saw somone with a gun.. they either had a uniform on or you knew to get away. Now.. who knows. Most likely.. they are legal like you said, but there is always a chance it is a perp with the balls to just walk around hoping no one asks. Not only that, but as more and more people start open-carrying.. are police going to stop every person they come across and ask for registration.. or will there be a higher likelihood that a criminal can "open carry" with a good chance of never being questioned?
 
farscapesg1 said:
But the real question in my mind is why do they need to carry in the first place? We didn't have guys walking through Wal-Mart in 1985 with a Glock on their hip, and violent crime statistics are actually down from that period of time. Back then, if you saw somone with a gun.. they either had a uniform on or you knew to get away. Now.. who knows. Most likely.. they are legal like you said, but there is always a chance it is a perp with the balls to just walk around hoping no one asks. Not only that, but as more and more people start open-carrying.. are police going to stop every person they come across and ask for registration.. or will there be a higher likelihood that a criminal can "open carry" with a good chance of never being questioned?
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That's a good point. Maybe licensed open carry people should have to wear license plates on the front and back of their bodies :D
 
DocSavage said:
See I was raised like that as well. Unfortunately, it seems to be different for black people where any interaction with police is fraught with fear of what they may do to you and it's worse now that social media seems to advertise videos of people being shot by police on a daily basis.
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Yeah, I can see that point. Having grown up in the midwest... the black communities were pretty limited. However, I don't remember a rash of shootings in Langston, OK because of the primarily black population (and only historical black college in the state), and some of the citizens who attended OK State that I knew did not go around worried about the police. They were out drinking and walking the streets with the rest of us. Maybe it is just how social media has permeated every aspect of our lives and we would have seen the same issues back then, even in rural OK. Also how it seems to make everything sound so horrible now. If you listen to social media and/or the media in general, blacks are getting shot left and right, their is a child predator in every other house, every Muslim wants to destroy America, and all cops are murderous psychopaths. Sometimes ignorance really can be bliss :p

However, I will admit that I grew up in a sheltered environment. My hometown had one (1) black family in it. The dad helped coach the little-league baseball teams and was a regular face at PTO meetings. You could find him at the local bar at nights and eating lunch with the town's one police officer during the day. Going to college, there were black students, but not a hint of "gang" activities. They were just like everyone else.. went to class, ate at the cafeteria, skateboarding around campus, etc. I didn't hear anything about "racial inequality" or "we need a safe place".. it was all about integration and being one community, not sub-communities.

A lot of this stems from the areas like New Orleans, NYC, Detroit, etc. where the "fear of the police" seems to be strongest. These are the areas that have had decades, if not longer, to improve themselves, and yet we still have higher gang activity, drugs, etc. in those areas. Because they are usually poor environments, the blame gets put on the "white man" holding them down, but allowing that to continue with the stance of "we're poor
 
farscapesg1 said:
But the real question in my mind is why do they need to carry in the first place? We didn't have guys walking through Wal-Mart in 1985 with a Glock on their hip, and violent crime statistics are actually down from that period of time. Back then, if you saw somone with a gun.. they either had a uniform on or you knew to get away. Now.. who knows. Most likely.. they are legal like you said, but there is always a chance it is a perp with the balls to just walk around hoping no one asks. Not only that, but as more and more people start open-carrying.. are police going to stop every person they come across and ask for registration.. or will there be a higher likelihood that a criminal can "open carry" with a good chance of never being questioned?
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If you didn't see people back then doesn't mean it didn't happen, as these open carry laws have been around in most states for far longer than that, if not since the creation of the State it self. And as you said, crime rates are down, even though gun ownership is higher. As for having the "balls" to open carry as a criminal, does it matter? If he plans on robbing someone, gun visible before hand or not is going to change what exactly? Cops in many states, so long as you are not doing anything wrong, can not stop and demand a permit, just as they can not demand ID, they can ask, but I do not have to show it. Many states also do not require any permit for open carry, such as when I lived in Louisiana, so long as you could legally own the gun, you were allowed to open carry, so there is nothing for the LEO to request from you (as it should be). I now live in Texas that has passed open carry laws, though you do have to have a carry permit.

When it was going to be passed and we all knew it, I know so many people saying "OMG, its going to be like the wild west now! There are going to be so many shooting *blah blah blah* in the coming weeks", well it passed and a month later I asked them all "how many open carriers have you seen? How many more shootings?" The answer was none. The extra shootings because those criminals who do carry, were carrying already, so nothing changed. As for people open carrying, most people do not, because even those who already had a CHL do not want to open carry, very few people care to actually open carry.

I don't know why people act like everyone in walmart is going to have a gun on them (and if they did, what is wrong with that?), I have had people state stuff like this, while not even knowing they already lived in an open carry state, but it is so rare that they never ran across it.
 
waiting for the death of a black man over a cell phone case who was such a wonderful loving man who decided that it was a great idea to be an ass to law enforcement and not listen to directions.
 
BlueFireIce said:
If you didn't see people back then doesn't mean it didn't happen, as these open carry laws have been around in most states for far longer than that, if not since the creation of the State it self. And as you said, crime rates are down, even though gun ownership is higher. As for having the "balls" to open carry as a criminal, does it matter? If he plans on robbing someone, gun visible before hand or not is going to change what exactly?
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I guess you are right, it doesn't matter too much since if they have it concealed.. you don't see it until it's too late anyways. I was never really concerned about the whole "more guns equals more violence" aspect.. it's always been more of a why bother? Crimes are technically down so you have even less reason to pack heat for yourself. It's also just a personal issue that, for me, it makes it more difficult to know who is safe or not, and makes me uncomfortable around non-uniformed people with visible weapons. I have no issues with CHL.. because I don't see it (again, ignorance is bliss), but I'm not a fan of open-carry. Again.. it's mostly because I grew up in a time and place where people didn't drive around with a gun in the glove box, in their purse, or on their hip.. or at least they didn't openly brag/talk about it if they did. We had shotguns and rifles in our house, stored in the utility room on a gun rack (no gun safe or anything fancy like that) and my dad had a pistol in his dresser... but they were only used for hunting. Heck.. he didn't even keep the ammo in his dresser.. that was all stored back in the utility room so from a "self defense" aspect they would have all been useless anyways. Not that it matters since we always left our house unlocked living out in the country and anyone could have just walked in at 2:00 AM in the morning while were all asleep :p
 
You can dual wield with this one

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Methadras said:
Yeah, they ended being the grandparents of cop killers.
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Actually, they got setup and murdered by the FBI: Police kill two members of the Black Panther Party - Dec 04, 1969 - HISTORY.com

Despite the evidence provided by ballistics experts showing that police had fired 99 percent of the bullets and had falsified the report on the incident, the first federal grand jury did not indict anyone involved in the raid. Furthermore, even though a subsequent grand jury did indict all the police officers involved, the charges were dismissed.
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farscapesg1 said:
I guess you are right, it doesn't matter too much since if they have it concealed.. you don't see it until it's too late anyways. I was never really concerned about the whole "more guns equals more violence" aspect.. it's always been more of a why bother? Crimes are technically down so you have even less reason to pack heat for yourself. It's also just a personal issue that, for me, it makes it more difficult to know who is safe or not, and makes me uncomfortable around non-uniformed people with visible weapons. I have no issues with CHL.. because I don't see it (again, ignorance is bliss), but I'm not a fan of open-carry. Again.. it's mostly because I grew up in a time and place where people didn't drive around with a gun in the glove box, in their purse, or on their hip.. or at least they didn't openly brag/talk about it if they did. We had shotguns and rifles in our house, stored in the utility room on a gun rack (no gun safe or anything fancy like that) and my dad had a pistol in his dresser... but they were only used for hunting. Heck.. he didn't even keep the ammo in his dresser.. that was all stored back in the utility room so from a "self defense" aspect they would have all been useless anyways. Not that it matters since we always left our house unlocked living out in the country and anyone could have just walked in at 2:00 AM in the morning while were all asleep :p
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Cars are safer than ever, but I still buckle up every time I am in the car, I wear a hard hat at work every day even though there is no over head work, I could really go on and on. It is being prepared. I hope I never have a use for a gun again, but if that does come, I am ready to at least fight for my life. I myself grew up in a country town, nothing ever happened in either, yet everyone had guns hanging from their back window, seeing someone with a gun on their hip meant they probably just got back from a hunting trip as most people carried a handgun because of hogs and other wildlife. I grew up like this and the sight of a gun on someone means pretty much zero to me. After I moved away from here I almost never carried, I road motorcycle allot and the idea of crashing with something hard like a gun on my side seemed painful. I was out one time, stopped next to a bridge, that over looked a little valley to take a breather and a man walks up from the bottom of the bridge, I thought this was odd as I am pretty far out and I had not seen anything around for some time, he (still a distance away) asks if I have a light, I tell him no, then he asks if I have any spare smokes even though I just said I don't have a light, it felt odd from the start, I went to turn to my bike and he right away asked me another question as if he wanted my attention. I turned around at that point and noticed 3 other guys walking from the back side of the bridge my way, I know exactly what is going on, this is a popular motorcycle road and they are waiting around to jump someone and take the bike, probably had a car stashed somewhere close. I hop on my bike and take off. The situation went from relaxing ride to possibly getting killed for my bike in a matter of seconds, out in the middle of no where, after that I started carrying again. I hope I never run into something like that for a second time, but being prepared for something like this only takes one time to make it all worth it.

Also, even if you have no reason, there is nothing wrong with carry, as they are not harming anyone or anything.
 
I edc mainly because... no one is going to save you. Really, that's all there is to it.
 
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Fixed.

I hope everyone who truly thinks it's stupid gets a coronary and drops dead the next time they see a Pop Tart with a bite taken out of it so that the wafer remotely resembles the shape of a pistol. Really they will just end up doing us all a favor.
 
Deadly Ramon said:
Fixed.

I hope everyone who truly thinks it's stupid gets a coronary and drops dead the next time they see a Pop Tart with a bite taken out of it so that the wafer remotely resembles the shape of a pistol. Really they will just end up doing us all a favor.
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Everytime I think I've finally read the stupidest thing I'll ever read on this forum....
 
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