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ChingChang

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What I'm looking for is the cheapest CPU I can get that will run at extremely high temperatures :D

I was looking through socket 478 processors, was thinking about getting the Celeron D 325, since it has a Prescott core and highest mhz per dollar.

Do the Celeron D's get as hot as the Pentium 4's?
Would the Celeron D 325 be a good choice?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
 
Two options. The Cel-D is one. The other is the 2.4A (533MHz, 1MB cache, non-HT). The extra cache means it'll crank out a few more watts. The 2.8 would also be an option because of Hyper-Threading, but that's already not worth the added cost. Either way, make sure you overclock the hell out of it!
 
Yeah I really wanted a P4, but the cheapest one on newegg costs $50 more than the celeron :mad:

I know celerons perform a lot worse but I don't care about that, I just need lots of heat!

But if the 2.4GHz Pentium 4 A is a lot hotter than the 2.53GHz Celeron D, then I just might have to get one instead...
I have no experience with Celeron processors, so I have no clue how hot they are.

As for overclocking, I'd like to overclock for the extra heat, but my motherboard is crap. It's that Soyo that was "free after rebate" :rolleyes:
I just hope the board isn't dead though
 
And the question you knew was coming... why?


Anywho, my 3.0E P4 runs at a staggering 62C full load, WITH AN XP-90C!!! Idles at 48...

Good luck in your quest, i wouldn't get a celeron if you're LOOKING for heat...
 
mdameron said:
And the question you knew was coming... why?


Anywho, my 3.0E P4 runs at a staggering 62C full load, WITH AN XP-90C!!! Idles at 48...

Good luck in your quest, i wouldn't get a celeron if you're LOOKING for heat...
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Top 10 Reasons for wanting a hot P4!!!!!!

10) Lives in an Igloo
09) Read the intel 'Heat=Performance' brief.
08) Likes a hot-cup-o-coolant in the winter
07) Multitasking as a stove
06) For attention!
05) Will cause a burn landing a lawsuit worth a mil!
04) Bought stock in the local energy company
03) Looking to brand himself with P4 Logo (took up sewing just so HT would make sense).
02) His ULV Pentium M powered Femme-bot just didn't quite 'feel' right!
01) THINKS THE HEAT WILL STOP HIS COMPUTER FROM FREEZING!
 
^^^ LMFAO!!! I actually left my pc on all day today so I don't have to turn on the heater (its only on or off, and it will melt a man where he stands), and it did keep my room quite comfy lol :D
 
Prescott 478 D0's are the hottest processor I have ever dealt with, I had an SP-94 with a Vantec Tornado and I still saw ridiculous heat vs the northwood I had prior.
 
Why? so I can compare (review?) high end heatsinks, and possibly lower end, and stock heatsink (want to get one of the X2 HS..). I just want to find out what the best heatsinks are(ignoring size/weight/compatibility/noise), not just people's opinions of what the best are. The heatsink that cools the CPU the best. Best at dissipating heat.
I'll be ordering a Thermalright HR-01 for my next build, and my friend has a Zalman that I'll use to check temps. The rest I'll have to buy myself...


P4 3.0E costs too much :(

One of my friends has a 2.8C I think? He's building a new system soon, maybe I can buy his old processor off of him...

But if not, I guess I'll just get one online somewhere.


EDIT: wow, 62C with an XP-90C! very nice :D
 
Mysogonist said:
Top 10 Reasons for wanting a hot P4!!!!!!

10) Lives in an Igloo
09) Read the intel 'Heat=Performance' brief.
08) Likes a hot-cup-o-coolant in the winter
07) Multitasking as a stove
06) For attention!
05) Will cause a burn landing a lawsuit worth a mil!
04) Bought stock in the local energy company
03) Looking to brand himself with P4 Logo (took up sewing just so HT would make sense).
02) His ULV Pentium M powered Femme-bot just didn't quite 'feel' right!
01) THINKS THE HEAT WILL STOP HIS COMPUTER FROM FREEZING!
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LOL :D
 
mdameron said:
And the question you knew was coming... why?


Anywho, my 3.0E P4 runs at a staggering 62C full load, WITH AN XP-90C!!! Idles at 48...

Good luck in your quest, i wouldn't get a celeron if you're LOOKING for heat...
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Whoa, either you have your PC running next to a heater or something funky's up. With my 3.0E, I'm getting 36C idle, 47C full load with stock cooling in a system with 3 case fans (excluding PSU fans) and a really really hot X850XT PE right under it (the card gets up to 75C under full load). I mean, compared to A64s, the P4s get hot but that's just ungodly...

In terms of the hottest CPU ever though, I'd like to see the temps on the 3.73GHz Prescott Extreme Edition that now seems to have been discontinued. Think of the temps on that thing. It's probably like a hellish inferno of dual-core madness dripping in molten hyperthreading and 64-bit instruction goodness.
 
ChingChang said:
Why? so I can compare (review?) high end heatsinks, and possibly lower end, and stock heatsink (want to get one of the X2 HS..). I just want to find out what the best heatsinks are(ignoring size/weight/compatibility/noise), not just people's opinions of what the best are.
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why not trust reviews? honestly, the mere reason for mags and websites to publish reviews is to spare guys like you the hassle - and bucks - of doing it themselves. judging by your logic you better rob bill's house before you buy your first car - i somehow don't trust the ppl who say a lambo is better than the ferrari, i'll give it a shot myself :D
 
At work, I was thermal-testing an IBM M42 (SFF) because the users were getting temperature threshold warnings... it was running a 2.4GHz P4 (non-HT). Some of IBM's case designs are just awful...

Fired up Prime95 to see just how hot it would get, and was shocked to see it hit 81* C at full load... I was waiting for the processor to blow the heatsink off... :eek:
 
Sounds like a pretty fun experiment man. I trust results will be posted! Too bad you can't get a pentium d or something...those bastards are crafzy hot from what i'm reading.
 
hottest running or hottest dissappation?
My Cyrix and my Mobile 2600+ athlon both individually heated up my room quicker and hotter than a 4ghz prescott did...
 
Mysogonist said:
Top 10 Reasons for wanting a hot P4!!!!!!

10) Lives in an Igloo
09) Read the intel 'Heat=Performance' brief.
08) Likes a hot-cup-o-coolant in the winter
07) Multitasking as a stove
06) For attention!
05) Will cause a burn landing a lawsuit worth a mil!
04) Bought stock in the local energy company
03) Looking to brand himself with P4 Logo (took up sewing just so HT would make sense).
02) His ULV Pentium M powered Femme-bot just didn't quite 'feel' right!
01) THINKS THE HEAT WILL STOP HIS COMPUTER FROM FREEZING!
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ROFL! - funniest post i've read in a long time! Thanks, buddy!
 
PWMK2 said:
Whoa, either you have your PC running next to a heater or something funky's up. With my 3.0E, I'm getting 36C idle, 47C full load with stock cooling in a system with 3 case fans (excluding PSU fans) and a really really hot X850XT PE right under it (the card gets up to 75C under full load). I mean, compared to A64s, the P4s get hot but that's just ungodly...

In terms of the hottest CPU ever though, I'd like to see the temps on the 3.73GHz Prescott Extreme Edition that now seems to have been discontinued. Think of the temps on that thing. It's probably like a hellish inferno of dual-core madness dripping in molten hyperthreading and 64-bit instruction goodness.
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You've probably got a later stepping than mdameron or I do.
I got mine right when they came out and it is HOT!.
In fact I had to RMA my first one because it burned up at installation.
Idles at 49C and has hit 85C and shut down under full load....After I got a BFG 6800 GT OC video card. And thats with 2 Delta case fans in the back and a Delta 120mm in the front, and with a 120mm on the PSU.

And that's with no overclock on an ABIT IC7-MAX3 motherboard.

I had to remove the side cover of the case to keep it cool. :eek:
 
ChingChang said:
One of my friends has a 2.8C I think? He's building a new system soon, maybe I can buy his old processor off of him...
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2.8C doesn't run that hot. I had one running only 48C under 100% load with a Vantec Aeroflow. I'm sure there are things out there running hotter than that.
 
The 3.0C I just sold never went above 42 C o/c'd to 3.3 under load, even with stock cooling. Definately don't want a Northwood if you're looking for hot.
 
wizzackr said:
ROFL! - funniest post i've read in a long time! Thanks, buddy!
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No Problem.

In regards to the OP and his quest for the hotness, I would say that prescott is a slamdunk. You also have a few socket options. Be sure to get a board that has vcore control and bump it up.
 
wizzackr said:
why not trust reviews? honestly, the mere reason for mags and websites to publish reviews is to spare guys like you the hassle - and bucks - of doing it themselves. judging by your logic you better rob bill's house before you buy your first car - i somehow don't trust the ppl who say a lambo is better than the ferrari, i'll give it a shot myself :D
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I don't trust heatsink reviews as much as I trust anything else. There are very few that I've seen that compare temps of multiple heatsinks. Most just test out a specific heatsink.

And how do I know they set it up correctly? Tom's Hardware is a pretty big website, and even they don't know how to apply thermal grease...
Also I'll be lapping every heatsink to see how much of an improvement I get.

Heatsinks aren't too expensive. It's a lot differen't than cars :p

When I used to play MMORPG's, I would test things for myself. It makes me MUCH more knowledgeable on the subject and makes me 100% sure that what I'm saying is correct.


Maybe someone in the FS/FT forum is selling a prescott, or I can check ebay for one.
 
mdameron said:
And the question you knew was coming... why?


Anywho, my 3.0E P4 runs at a staggering 62C full load, WITH AN XP-90C!!! Idles at 48...

Good luck in your quest, i wouldn't get a celeron if you're LOOKING for heat...
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I have a 3.0E (C0) with a 20$ HSF from compusa that runs 40c idle, 54c load, using AS5 of course, and some lapping to the copper base. I would usually run 60c load with the stock HSF with the 3.0E
 
If you want comparisons to different heatsinks...why not check out a website like FrostyTech. Haven't been there in awhile, but they used to do rankings based upon heatsinks with full listings of fan CFM's, noise, materials, clip strengths, you name it...truly might be the best heatsink review site I can recall.
 
oh, and frostytech doesn't cover some of the high end heatsinks... such as XP-120, HR-01 ect...

And I've changed my mind about this. Unless I can get a very good deal on the processor, I just don't see this happening. I don't even know if my motherboard is working. And on top of that I'd be spending a lot of money on heatsinks, although I could resell them on ebay and get a lot of the money back, so it's not that bad (XP-120's go for around $50, which is how much you could get them retail)...
I really wanted to do this though. When I get a better paying job I'll try again...
 
Just buy a 2.8ghz P4E (Prescott, Socket 478) and start your reviewing.
 
amd k7 or thunder chicken 1ghz OC'ed to about 1.8??? should crank out lots o heat... good luck finding one though... err.. possibily a k6-2/3... :D you wanted cheap... if you can find em i can garentee they will crank out the heat on the cheap

thore
 
considering that he lives in Rochester, NY, I understand his desire to stay warm in the winter time :D
 
I still recommend a cyrix or an athlon mobile that's overclocked, both processors will heat up a 12x12 room to the point of being unbearably hot in no time at all
 
800 series - dual (prescott) cores will definitely be the hottest
I've heard of many of them running at 80C +++ !!

Other than that you could get something like a 3.4E and overclock it to around 4Ghz for some serious heat.
 
Instead of using an actual processor for thermal testing , I'd suggest building a heat source.It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper.

Something like a 226 watt peltier for example.With an adjustable ,metered power supply , you would be able to control and measure the heat output.

:D
 
chrisf6969 said:
800 series - dual (prescott) cores will definitely be the hottest
I've heard of many of them running at 80C +++ !!

Other than that you could get something like a 3.4E and overclock it to around 4Ghz for some serious heat.
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I've always wondered, as I have seen you post many times all over the forums... what do you use to cool your systems? Also, if you don't mind sharing, what do you do for work?
I ask because a 3.4EE is neither cool nor cheap :p
 
ScHpAnKy said:
I've always wondered, as I have seen you post many times all over the forums... what do you use to cool your systems? Also, if you don't mind sharing, what do you do for work?
I ask because a 3.4EE is neither cool nor cheap :p
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Must be a rocket scientist ;)
 
my mom's 1.2 ghz duron runs at 70c. and my grandma has a 1.3 duron that runs about the same temp too..

i don't know what cores they are.. both are being used is $5 heatsinks that have loud ass 40mm fans though
 
scottatwittenberg said:
my mom's 1.2 ghz duron runs at 70c. and my grandma has a 1.3 duron that runs about the same temp too..

i don't know what cores they are.. both are being used is $5 heatsinks that have loud ass 40mm fans though
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That's nothing to my dual-CPU 400 MHz celeron system I used to have. The first processor's HSF wasn't as beefy as the second one even though they were both stock (must have been different releases of the same CPU or something). The second CPU would get ~75C, but the first one would get ~112C!!! Ahh!!! It would still work though, which was amazing...... :confused:

edit: These temps are under full load, of course. ;)
 
BrainEater said:
Instead of using an actual processor for thermal testing , I'd suggest building a heat source.It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper.

Something like a 226 watt peltier for example.With an adjustable ,metered power supply , you would be able to control and measure the heat output.

:D
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hmm not a bad idea..

but peltiers can't fold :D
 
drizzt81 said:
considering that he lives in Rochester, NY, I understand his desire to stay warm in the winter time :D
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Actually it usually gets too hot in my dorm room. My comp is always on (Athlon XP2800+) and my window is always open, unless it gets very windy. Even when it snows the room still stays warm, with the heater turned off. Strange.
 
ScHpAnKy said:
I've always wondered, as I have seen you post many times all over the forums... what do you use to cool your systems? Also, if you don't mind sharing, what do you do for work?
I ask because a 3.4EE is neither cool nor cheap :p
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Details of my systems are there: http://www.crowdcontrolusa.com/overclock/

I got the 3.4EE for less than 1/2 of what they retail for, so it wasn't a bad deal. Especially not considering it was an easy plug & play upgrade from my 2.4C.

I've never used any exotic cooling. I had a Vantec Aeroflow on my 2.4C forever and it ran it at 3.6Ghz. I think I've just had some very good luck with chips.

As for work, I run a small company (usually about 10-15 employees), it pays me well and I have a nice set up at work. (see the picture of my work set up: w / a 2405! :) )
 
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