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Stop killing games!

polonyc2 said:
Ubisoft CEO responds to the Stop Killing Games petition

Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot has addressed the Stop Killing Games consumer rights campaign, stating that end-of-life support for old online games 'a far reaching issue' that the publisher is 'working on' but that 'nothing is eternal' when it comes to videogame services...

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/ubiso...-of-life-support-but-that-nothing-is-eternal/
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Just think if Hollywood and books had the same mindset as game developes and stoped working after 1-10 years. I have no problem with them cutting the servers off for a mmo ECT but for games that have single player that's shady and I hope they all go bankrupt as I believe the world doesn't really need them anymore.

Honestly I can't tell you the last time I bought a AAA game. It's all Indy stuff because most of them are actually fun and unique. Big games try to hard with the online model full of microtransactions or lately you can't even pick male or female or the characters look like some trans reject.

We need a movement called BBTnA. I miss the olden days when female characters gave you eye candy to look, that $20 expansion pack gave you hours and hours of content and wasn't something cut out the base game for sale a week after release and the world never knew of loot boxes or microtransaction.

Know why I think they are pushing this? Because people stopped buying $70+ games that suck donkey balls that use the same unreal engine as that $20 Indy game and tend not to allow modding.
 
IMO people are making this into a way bigger deal than it is.

Would it be cool to play Destiny 2 or some other live service game that shutdown with a group of friends on some custom servers? I guess it might, but I really wouldn't care much if I couldn't.

Some people seem to care very strongly about being able to play a game they "purchased" forever. I have never expected to be able to play any live service or online multiplayer game forever.
Unless it's one of the best games ever made it won't even get touched by the majority of people a month after release.

I would like to be able to play games forever but I just don't think it's worth making it some sort of law.
Like every rule and regulation there are always unintended consequences.
 
I personally dont care anymore especially live service games. None of which are worth saving. Single player games generally get a work around done by the community it people care about it enough.
 
vegeta535 said:
I personally dont care anymore especially live service games. None of which are worth saving. Single player games generally get a work around done by the community it people care about it enough.
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I'm starting to think just pirating it is ok. What does one get by "buying" a game? If they can steal it any time they want without having to pay me back then it's not stealing for me to not pay them to begin with.

It's in publishers best interest not to make PC games mad. We are a fickle bunch that have long memories and if they want to double down on stupid they will lose in the end
 
tunatime said:
I'm starting to think just pirating it is ok. What does one get by "buying" a game? If they can steal it any time they want without having to pay me back then it's not stealing for me to not pay them to begin with.

It's in publishers best interest not to make PC games mad. We are a fickle bunch that have long memories and if they want to double down on stupid they will lose in the end
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I have no issue pirating games. I personally buy games from small developers I like.
 
polonyc2 said:
but that 'nothing is eternal' when it comes to videogame services...

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/ubiso...-of-life-support-but-that-nothing-is-eternal/
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Why the hell not? Storage is cheap. Just keep getting more. That's what most companies do anyways, in some form or another. You don't have to maintain online connectivity or online servers for the games (the movement explicitly says that). In fact, you don't even need to shackle the old games to the services. This argument is donkey balls. Once again, the pirates win.
 
pendragon1 said:
not owning the games and/or consoles we buy is bs. who knows if anything will even come of it, but its worth a try...
i will not "own nothing and be happy", dammit!

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

"Stop Killing Games" is a consumer movement started to challenge the legality of publishers destroying video games they have sold to customers. An increasing number of video games are sold effectively as goods - with no stated expiration date - but designed to be completely unplayable as soon as support from the publisher ends. This practice is a form of planned obsolescence and is not only detrimental to customers, but makes preservation effectively impossible. Furthermore, the legality of this practice is largely untested in many countries.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmkCQJrc9n4


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgZvTloDhtk


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTRmCilHhbY


I feel this a lot myself because I also play online casino games on the side, and I wouldn’t want those to disappear either after spending time (or money) on them. While looking around for ways to make sure I pick platforms that are transparent, I came across saiba mais pagamentos which explains crypto vs Paysafecard options in detail. It’s interesting how much clearer the terms are there compared to video game publishers and at least you know exactly what you’re getting into and how you can fund your play, instead of pretending you “own” the games.
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It's the first time I heard about such a movement, but I totally support it. The whole “you don’t really own what you buy” model feels wrong, especially when people spend full price on games and then lose access just because servers shut down. Future generations won’t be able to experience specific titles the way we did if everything gets pulled offline and locked away.
 
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gioniio84 said:
It's the first time I heard about such a movement, but I totally support it. The whole “you don’t really own what you buy” model feels wrong, especially when people spend full price on games and then lose access just because servers shut down. Future generations won’t be able to experience specific titles the way we did if everything gets pulled offline and locked away.
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They're trying to do this with everything. Cars, houses, etc. "You will own nothing and you'll be happy. You will eat ze bugs and like it!"
 
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