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StackSocial - Learn to Code Bundle [$1 minimum]

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https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-name-your-own-price-learn-to-code-bundle

If you've participated in any Humble Bundle or similar sale then you know the whole deal.
Pay the minimum to unlock the base set of courses or beat the average to unlock all the courses.

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I've been trying to get back into coding and expanding my knowledge past my basic level of PHP and MySQL so when I saw this bundle I couldn't resist and I figure there may be some other beginners who could gain through this deal.

A majority of the courses deal with web development, but there are some courses in Java, ObjectiveC, and Python. The subject matter also seems fairly basic level, which is great for me but probably provides little if any substance for a more experienced programmer. All of these courses unlock on Udemy.com and from what I've seen they are fairly well produced as far as audio/video are concerned.
 
I really absolutely love that HTML5 has ushered in a new era of completely unavoidable popups, tab-ins, and floating elements. I absolutely love it. There is nothing better than some giant blob of white asking me if I like their content and want to pay for it, blocking the content I have yet to see. /sarcasm.
 
450 said:
is this bundle worth it?
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I guess its up to you if I never understood the point of learn to code books, EVERYTHING you ever needed to learn how to code in any language is free on the internet.
 
Good material is worth paying for. Most online code tutorials are terrible.
 
rudy said:
I guess its up to you if I never understood the point of learn to code books, EVERYTHING you ever needed to learn how to code in any language is free on the internet.
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And usually of far lower quality with lots of missteps included. There's a reason sites like Lynda, and book publishers of computer texts are profitable ;). Also, the internet wasn't available with references always, y'know :p.
 
rudy said:
I guess its up to you if I never understood the point of learn to code books, EVERYTHING you ever needed to learn how to code in any language is free on the internet.
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Well NOW there is :p Hasn't always been like that. And as said above a book is usually arranged in some decent order. I did learn to code from the Internet and I did not learn stuff in an optimal order.
 
GoldenTiger said:
And usually of far lower quality with lots of missteps included. There's a reason sites like Lynda, and book publishers of computer texts are profitable ;). Also, the internet wasn't available with references always, y'know :p.
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Books are profitable because some whack jobs think that its harder to learn without a book or for some reason they have to be without an internet connection and a book is their only option. I personally have not had a problem with the quality of online tutorials and training and seen no reduction in quality. Maybe its not all perfectly edited and the grammar is perfect, don't know, don't care I have used both and found no advantage to books that is worth paying money for except the 1 time I was stuck over seas with no internet.
 
rudy said:
Books are profitable because some whack jobs think that its harder to learn without a book or for some reason they have to be without an internet connection and a book is their only option. I personally have not had a problem with the quality of online tutorials and training and seen no reduction in quality. Maybe its not all perfectly edited and the grammar is perfect, don't know, don't care I have used both and found no advantage to books that is worth paying money for except the 1 time I was stuck over seas with no internet.
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Everyone learns differently and I don't see there any reason to bash people(calling them whack jobs) since they don't learn the same as you.

But in case you were unaware many people benefit from guided lessons since they are overwhelmed and don't know where to start. I feel many people want to just jump into typing out lines of code without realizing that there is basic computer logic to learn before you can start focusing on a specific language. Many lessons will make sure that the audience is aware of the logic before even getting into the specifics of the language. To many people it is more beneficial to drop $10-20 bucks so that they don't have to spend the time directing themselves in the dark hoping that they find the information that they needed. Of course once you get over those first few humps it becomes much easier to be self directed and learn the intricacies of that specific language, but starting off without any knowledge often leads to reading stuff you can't understand since you are trying to get in at step 10 without knowing step 1-9.
 
Name your price! any price! (oh no, its actually $1+).

...For a dollar you only get two!!!... of the 8 things.

Want the rest? $10+!

Pick the charity! (they only get 10% of what you give)...

Yeah, they can fuck off.
 
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cjhatesu said:
Everyone learns differently and I don't see there any reason to bash people(calling them whack jobs) since they don't learn the same as you.

But in case you were unaware many people benefit from guided lessons since they are overwhelmed and don't know where to start. I feel many people want to just jump into typing out lines of code without realizing that there is basic computer logic to learn before you can start focusing on a specific language. Many lessons will make sure that the audience is aware of the logic before even getting into the specifics of the language. To many people it is more beneficial to drop $10-20 bucks so that they don't have to spend the time directing themselves in the dark hoping that they find the information that they needed. Of course once you get over those first few humps it becomes much easier to be self directed and learn the intricacies of that specific language, but starting off without any knowledge often leads to reading stuff you can't understand since you are trying to get in at step 10 without knowing step 1-9.
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You are right there is no reason to bash people I just see way to many people who claim that reading something in black and white on a piece of paper is just worlds different than reading the same thing in black and white on a computer. I mean the exact same thing in these cases which are PDFs you either print or view. Unfortunately I just don't believe it. People are creatures of habbit that often justify their habbit to hells end without giving an alternative a real fair chance.

Online resources will give you the back ground. They will also start you from the beginning. I am not only speaking of references that just list out functions and 1 example. Its up to you to find them. Best part about free online? If you find out it wasn't written that well you can just move to a new one instantly, if you don't understand what they meant in the back ground you can go find another explanation. With a book you are $deep in it from the start and usually wont buy another one if its not good.
 
I like books, they flow much better than random internet searches. Yes the Internet has a TON of great tutorials, but books are often better guides.

I mean why does anyone need to go to school or have a teacher all the answers are already on the internet after all, and with schoolbooks that are purchasable all we should need are the tests right? :)
 
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(they only get 10% of what you give)...
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Wow, that's really fucked up. Damn, I almost bought it. Just blacklisted that site on the old router. Damn, that's a shame that it has come to that.
 
GoldenTiger said:
And usually of far lower quality with lots of missteps included. There's a reason sites like Lynda, and book publishers of computer texts are profitable ;). Also, the internet wasn't available with references always, y'know :p.
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Going to compare this with my Lynda sub but I may just stick with that.

And 10% is pretty low.
 
They're encouraging people to out pay each other while the charity gets 10%. That is ridiculous. I'm hoping I read it wrong.
 
So, I bit on this the other day and I'm pretty disappointed. The material isn't great (not terrible, but if you know some coding 60% is basic types and structures), you can't download it, and they've been spamming me with email ever since I signed up.
 
Darakian said:
So, I bit on this the other day and I'm pretty disappointed. The material isn't great (not terrible, but if you know some coding 60% is basic types and structures), you can't download it, and they've been spamming me with email ever since I signed up.
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I expected a bit more given the original prices. But satisfied at the price paid.
 
Justintoxicated said:
I like books, they flow much better than random internet searches. Yes the Internet has a TON of great tutorials, but books are often better guides.

I mean why does anyone need to go to school or have a teacher all the answers are already on the internet after all, and with schoolbooks that are purchasable all we should need are the tests right? :)
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Right. The only reason is because people don't have the self-discipline and encouragement to go on.

They have to pay money for their education andor be invested in getting a grade, so they do not give up. Also, online self-education almost never offers a degree to show as proof for future employers.

Books are awful. They are one-sided tutorials, are written by a single voice and each exercise doesn't have a Q&A or discussion, unlike online tutorials, which often have a comment section and most questions you possibly had about the exercise are discussed ans answered.
 
kohan69 said:
Right. The only reason is because people don't have the self-discipline and encouragement to go on.

They have to pay money for their education andor be invested in getting a grade, so they do not give up. Also, online self-education almost never offers a degree to show as proof for future employers.

Books are awful. They are one-sided tutorials, are written by a single voice and each exercise doesn't have a Q&A or discussion, unlike online tutorials, which often have a comment section and most questions you possibly had about the exercise are discussed ans answered.
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Most development book do have Q&A available, and guide you through complexities in code. This is especially useful when learning web frameworks. I hate it when people tell me to go online and read the reference docs for frameworks as they are usually absolutely horrible unless you already have an idea of what you are looking for. Plus reference docs are usually very limited in showing clear examples. Books will lay things out in a easy to consume manner, and are easy to come back to for references. Many development books are over 500 to 1000 pages plus and I have yet to find an online guide that would cover even close to that amount of information in one place. Books flow well, online tutorials jump around and do not necessarily flow or explain why and when to use certain features, or why some features are offered but shouldn't be used etc. Reading a book can make you aware of things you would never even have though to search for a tutorial for.

As for Q&A in tutorials usually all I find are flaws in the tutorial when there are alot of people asking questions. Many online tutorials are broken and do not work, and contain many errors that get correct in books.

I'm not saying don't use online tutorials, but it's MUCH easier for me to find a book on a topic and start reading up on it than dig online for random tutorials about some obscure features. For example, go learn OSGI for Jboss 7. Yes there's a lot of information online just usually not what I am looking for.
 
Justintoxicated said:
I like books, they flow much better than random internet searches. Yes the Internet has a TON of great tutorials, but books are often better guides.

I mean why does anyone need to go to school or have a teacher all the answers are already on the internet after all, and with schoolbooks that are purchasable all we should need are the tests right? :)
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We wont get into that because its a complete derail, but lets just say many if not most of the biggest tech companies in America were formed and run by people who did NOT finish a formal education and were self taught. The formal schooling system is also the focus of huge amount of attention because of their short comings. But for many jobs employers want a formal education not because of what you know or learned but more because it shows that you will do what people tell you to do for a long time and work at it with little income, exactly what a manager needs.
 
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