SSD which one? so confused..

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vvilliamm

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Alright ive been looking at
Intel X25-V SSDSA2MP040G2R5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167025

and the
OCZ Agility Series OCZSSD2-1AGT60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...7461&cm_re=ocz_agility-_-20-227-461-_-Product

why do people recommend me.. the intel ones vs the ocz ones? when the ocz ones have a faster write /read time?

is it a bad time to hop on a ssd drive?
 
haha, I just ordered the OCZ Agility Series. ;)
Best bang for the buck, plus it has a 64MB cache which always helps.

The Intel X25 listed has decent read speeds for the price, but the write speeds are REALLY slow, especially for a 40GB drive.

If you want performance, I'd look at OCZ's Vertex or Turbo series b/c of the higher reads and write speeds (for a similar size/cost).

btw, what will you be using your drive for and in what system?
 
windows 7 i7 860.? mostly for a boot drive and to decrease the load time.

hmm
ocz vertex 60gb
194-15% - 20 = avg 145?
 
I've been looking at the 80 and 128gb ones. I play lots of games and from what I was told, they load faster and play smoother on a SSD. My Steam folder alone is 75gb right now. So add Win7 and what ever else, I might just get by with a 128gb. I can use my 1tb + 2 320gbs for storage and finally retire my 200gb to an emergency back up external drive.
 
im looking at two things right now the
Intel SSDSA2MP040G2R5 X25-V Solid State Drive - 40GB, SATA, 2.5", Retail for 100ish

or the
30 gb vertex for around 90 after rebate and bing.

im also thinking about the 60 for 145 but hmm should a 30-40 gb drive last me long enough by the time prices start to drop for these drives? i heard by q4
 
Wolvie56X said:
I've been looking at the 80 and 128gb ones. I play lots of games and from what I was told, they load faster and play smoother on a SSD. My Steam folder alone is 75gb right now. So add Win7 and what ever else, I might just get by with a 128gb. I can use my 1tb + 2 320gbs for storage and finally retire my 200gb to an emergency back up external drive.
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I think I end up saying this in every thread...I always see "but I need a 128GB or a 256GB drive because my Steam folder is so big"

Put your steam folder on another drive. Put most of your games on another drive.

I mean, does Team Fortress 2 really need fast loading speeds (for example?). Or MMOs? Does it help you if you load up the map 3 seconds earlier than everyone else? No, you still end up waiting.

The SSD should have your OS, all of the stuff that loads with Windows, MS Office, etc...along with any apps that could benefit from speed, and a couple of frequently played games that have a lot of loading times or could benefit from the SSD speed.

I have Dragon Age on my SSD. Because it has frequent loads (leaving areas, houses, etc) and I play it a lot.

Team Fortress 2, Civ 4, Guild Wars, etc...all on D:\ (500GB 7200rpm drive)
 
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intel probably has the highest standards where product testing is concerned among current ssd drive manufacturers. SSD being a really new technology for the consumer market, I went with stability, and chose the 160gb for it's high write speeds.
 
so the reason why people went with intel (lower write and read speed) rather than the ocz vertex (faster read and write) was because of the brand and quality control? in performance wise.. which one is better?
 
vvilliamm said:
so the reason why people went with intel (lower write and read speed) rather than the ocz vertex (faster read and write) was because of the brand and quality control? in performance wise.. which one is better?
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The Intel X-25M drive has better overall performance than any other drive. Just look at one of the several SSD comparisons available on the internet. You'll see that the Intel drive tops the charts in random access time, which would account for your Windows experience being snappy.
 
I'm planning to get either the intel 25 v 40gb (90-100) or the ocz 60gb vertex (145)
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illdklli said:
The Intel X-25M drive has better overall performance than any other drive. Just look at one of the several SSD comparisons available on the internet. You'll see that the Intel drive tops the charts in random access time, which would account for your Windows experience being snappy.
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Yeah, if you think about it, write speed isn't really that important on an SSD because you've only got like 40-80 gigs of space anyway, how much are you really going to be writing to it? Plus, in any case, it's still faster than a conventional HDD in terms of write speed. What you want is random access read speeds, which apparently the Intel excels at over other drives.
 
I'm running a bunch of SSD's (Intel and Indilinx mostly). I have been on the fence regarding the SandForce drives. I bought a 100GB Vertex LE and returned it as it wasn't that much faster than Intel or Indilinx drives I had around in real world usage (benchmarks the Vertex LE was great)... but with the new drives coming out, hopefully prices will drop.
 
Is 40 gb enough? I have win 7 x64 and about 10gb of games I heard that you could create a link from your hdd to SSd if you ever want to play another game on your other hdd
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Is 40 gb enough? I have win 7 x64 and about 10gb of games I heard that you could create a link from your hdd to SSd if you ever want to play another game on your other hdd.
Intel 40 gb 100
ocz vertex 60 gb 140 hmmmmm
sigh still can't decide
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Heh, I remember when OCZ was CRAP beyond measure. My how times have changed.

Truthfully, it's hard to go wrong wrong with either choice between the Indilinx or Intel based drives.
 
I would go with the OCZ drive since 20Gb more and has faster speeds. Little bit more, but they been running a lot of rebate deals.
 
OCZ memory is great from everything that I've been using since 2005. That Intel drive really isn't that fast. If you are gaming, read speeds are important, but write speeds mean a lot too when it comes to other things (downloading files), and 30MB/s for any drive, let alone a SSD, is abysmal. Even old HDDs from 7 years ago can achieve 60MB/s write speeds.

If I were you, and you only needed 40GB of space, go for an OCZ Vertex Turbo since they are very fast for a similar price.
 
The 40GB Intel SSD has very slow sequential Write speeds (40mb/s) because it utilizes half the channels of the 80GB version (80mb/s). The 160GB version is capable of 100mb/s.

I'm not sure that matters much for an OS/program drive (which is READ heavy, and not so much WRITE)... but I feel like my 80GB G1 Intel drive could be faster on the writes... because it does affect those times when I want to transfer some larger files over (not a big deal though).

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2968/...30gb-ssdnow-v-series-battle-of-the-125-ssds/5 - here is a review of the 40GB intel drive

It still spanks the OCZ (ignore OCZ LE, that utilizes the new, expensive, sandforce controller) in 4KB random read and write (which is largely what makes SSDs desirable).
 
I am still amazed many of you look at sequential throughput to determine the performance of an SSD. While the real important stat is of course latency and IOps; its the only thing that counts on your system disk; so looking at sequential performance is nothing more than educational but useless information.

If you consider Intel X25-V is 60.5MB/s random read, and Kingston 30GB with the common Indilinx controller gets stuck at 9.1MB/s. Random write is the same. Intel is actually market leader with random writes; despite its often quoted slow sequential write speed.

In other words, are you guys looking at the right stats? An Intel controller is much more advanced than any Indilinx one. And firmware issues/support/reliability on the Intel controller is a lot better than Indilinx as well. That makes Intel X25-V 40GB a killer product; its as expensive as the indilinx alternatives, but much faster and potentially more reliable.
 
Does this mean that the intel drives are much better overall than any of the other manufacturers?
 
Intel does tend to be better in most cases. However, for the drive the OP listed, it is only 40GB (limited space) and is the lowest-end Intel drive. Compared to the other drives, it pales in comparison, but the next step up for an Intel SSD is $200+ which may not be feasible for the OP.

I personally chose the OCZ Vertex Agility b/c of the cost/GB ratio, and b/c it has higher sustained thoughput, even though the random read/writes may be a bit slower. Also, it has a 64MB cache, something most SSD lack and can sometimes cause micro stutter within the drive (not horrible, just annoying).

I also do video editing, where sustained transfer speeds are FAR more important than random read/write speeds, so going with the Intel would have been a bad decision for me, but perhaps not for the OP depending on what he wants to do with it.

Regardless, any mainstream SSD will blow the socks off of even a high-end HDD in transfer rates and random read/writes as well as seek time.
 
Red Falcon said:
Regardless, any mainstream SSD will blow the socks off of even a high-end HDD in transfer rates and random read/writes as well as seek time.
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Yes. I went with an Agility too, about 6 months ago. Man I love this thing. Nothing like booting up windows and seconds later, you can do whatever you want - no thrashing HDD, no loading.
 
Red Falcon said:
Intel does tend to be better in most cases. However, for the drive the OP listed, it is only 40GB (limited space) and is the lowest-end Intel drive. Compared to the other drives, it pales in comparison, but the next step up for an Intel SSD is $200+ which may not be feasible for the OP.
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This pretty much sums it up. Intel is generally slower on large sequential stuff, but faster on the small random stuff (which is more common on an OS drive). However, the 40GB is the neutered value version, with basically half the performance of the X25-M. I don't know if the Indilinx drives do something similar with using fewer channels, or if they just have smaller flash chips. If the smaller Indilinx drives are the same as the bigger ones other than the size, I'd probably go that route for a small one. If you're looking at something bigger, I'd go with Intel for OS performance, though the higher sequential on an Indilinx might be helpful in specific scenarios.
 
The random read performance of X25-V 40GB is close to X25-M 80GB; even with 5 channels. Its only the write that really suffers; both random write and sequential write appear to be halved. So even the X25-V makes a very good system disk.
 
Not trying to thread jack, but does Trim work with Vista 64? or just WIn 7 and new linux kernals.
 
Dirk13: Trim only works with Win 7 now.

vvilliamm: If your still looking I just grabbed a 64GB Kingston from ewiz for $129.99 shipped...

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...w-V-Series-SATA2-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-Retail

Use promo code SHOWERS15 (this is the last day for that code btw).


That same code brings the 30GB Kingston down to $77 shipped but the reads/writes are slower...

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...w-V-Series-SATA2-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-Retail

They also have the OEM 80GB G2 Intel for $200 shipped after code LION225 (this also ends tonight).

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...X25-M-80GB-Mainstream-SATA2-Solid-State-Drive
 
Thanks maranello i actually bought the retail one..

209.99 < because i dont want to go searching for a adapter for my desktop lol
- 6.75 (bing)
203.24

and.. i just bought it at around 2:30am 4/19?

how i decided?

intel 40gb = 100 $2.5
vertex 60gb (old drive local meetup but the guy isnt responding) = 125 $2.08 found a guy on [h] forums selling it for 140 so i guess $2.3333 (not including the adapter that i would have to buy)
intel 80gb = 203 $2.5

after reading reviews about how intel.. is on the top and etc i decided eh i might as well.. even though now Newer ocz vertex ssd uses micron and intel nands
now time to digg up more info. on how to even use it lol

so did i make the right choice?
 
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If you can find it, the ultradrive me is a good 60gb choice, can be found for as cheap as 120 sometimes and has an indilinx controller, comparable to a vertex. I own a vertex 60gb in my work notebook, kingston intel 40gb in my htpc, intel G2 160 in my office/gaming machine, G2 80gb in my new tablet and an ultradrive me 60gb in my upstairs htpc..... wow I am spoiled.
 
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