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W.Feather

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Ive got an HP 2740p on the way, got it with an 80 GB SSD, and have a few questions on the SSD.

How can I tell if it has TRIM support?(I have no idea which one is in the tablet)

Whats a good way to prolong life on the SSD?(its a 1.8" drive, I looked at prices on em, and ouch....there is probably a thread here somewhere, quick search didnt find it and dont have time today to do an exhaustive search atm, can someone link me to a thread like this if it exsists?)

thats about it, i'm looking forward to low power usage and fast response lol
 
The 2740p, when ordered with the 80GB or 160GB SSD, currently ships with Intel X18-M G1 drives (which do not have TRIM). The G2 version of the X18 drives can sometimes be challenging to find in retail channels, actually.

However you can be sure simply by looking at any utility that shows the model number of the drive. Even Windows Device Manager should show the model number under 'HDDs' or 'Storage Devices'.

For instance for the 80GB X18 G2 drive the model number should be "SSDSA1MH080G201" or anything else with "G2" in the fourth and third from the last digits. Who knows, maybe you'll get lucky?


As for maintaining a 1st generation drive without TRIM there isn't a lot you can do aside from trying not to fill the drive to it's fullest capacity (which will exacerbate the performance degradation that occurs with these drives over time due to the lack of TRIM. It's no big deal though, if you ever get to the point where you actually NOTICE a degradation in performance just back up your data, do a secure erase of the drive, and then reinstall Windows 7 allowing the installer to format and prepare the drive.

The latest version of Diskeeper (payware defrag) offers a background process called 'Hyperfast' that is said to help SSDs without TRIM maintain their performance longer, but as a general rule I would stay AWAY from any 'defrag' type utilities for SSDs.
 
i figured defrag was a no no generally....

i've been thinking of picking up a 16 or 32 gb flash drive for use with my tablet, to keep read/write off of the drive, is my logic sound?


and, not having TRIM isnt a huge deal then? ill check on friday which one is in it, i'm guessing it is technically possible to have a G2? I will see a performance boost over my 1521 Dell no matter what, so this is mearly a question in the do's and dont's of it.

thanks for the replay as well
 
I've used Hyperfast on my G1s.

It's more like a free space consolidator rather than a defrag.

I couldn't really tell if it improved anything or not.
 
ive got a G2 drive :)

"Intel SSDSA1M080G2HP"......guess i'm lucky?
 
Woohoo!

Sounds like you're good to go. Assuming your tablet is running Windows 7 you can use the drive as normal with no hoops to jump through. Windows 7 is SSD aware and takes it's own measures to optimize itself for the SSD's speed and longevity including using the TRIM command with the SSD.

No need to worry about using a seperate USB flash drive (unless you just need the space).
 
yup, running Win 7 Pro x64, so it will do it on its own...nice....office programs load a crap load faster than my desktop(i want a SSD for there now, lol)


i do want to figure out how to get more space, as of now there is 60 of 80 GB for data/programs....Win7 shouldnt need that much, not sure what I can delete that will give me a bit more space (i want to try making a Hackintosh for the hell of it, and will need ~20 gig, giving me 9 left on windows LOL)....any ideas on how to trim down the windows system?
 
W.Feather said:
yup, running Win 7 Pro x64, so it will do it on its own...nice....office programs load a crap load faster than my desktop(i want a SSD for there now, lol)


i do want to figure out how to get more space, as of now there is 60 of 80 GB for data/programs....Win7 shouldnt need that much, not sure what I can delete that will give me a bit more space (i want to try making a Hackintosh for the hell of it, and will need ~20 gig, giving me 9 left on windows LOL)....any ideas on how to trim down the windows system?
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Windows 7 is actually pretty beefy, you may be able to use the add/remove windows features (located off to the side in the Add/Remove Programs control panel) to uninstall some Windows 7 bloat and cut down on some HDD usage, but I wouldn't count on much.

Also remember that it's not actually 80GB you're working with, it's actually something like 74.9GB due to file system overhead and also due to the fact that Windows and drive manufacturers have a different definition of 'gigabyte' (1024MB vs. 1000MB)


Also you can reclaim some space by turning off System Restore...
 
ahh forgot about system restore.....since this was a buisness machine, i was able to have HP not have any of the bloatware crap on it(only thing would be the Tablet Pack from Microsoft, and well some of the games arnt half bad)....

IIRC on my desktop windows is taking up 15, which makes sense here when you reminded me of file system overhead.....

ill probably be picking up a 32 GB USB sometime this week anyhow for files, so all that will be installed is programs/OneNote files....all others will end up on a flash drive lol


so i dont have to do anything to get TRIM support fully to work?
 
W.Feather said:
ahh forgot about system restore.....since this was a buisness machine, i was able to have HP not have any of the bloatware crap on it(only thing would be the Tablet Pack from Microsoft, and well some of the games arnt half bad)....

IIRC on my desktop windows is taking up 15, which makes sense here when you reminded me of file system overhead.....

ill probably be picking up a 32 GB USB sometime this week anyhow for files, so all that will be installed is programs/OneNote files....all others will end up on a flash drive lol


so i dont have to do anything to get TRIM support fully to work?
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You shouldn't need to do a thing, but it does depend on the SATA controller and the drivers it's using.

You can check to see if Windows 7 is passing TRIM commands to the drive by opening an elevated command prompt (run cmd as administrator) and typing the following:

fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

If you get a response of "DisableDeleteNotify = 0" then TRIM is enabled and TRIM commands are being sent to the SSD.

As of yet there is no way to actually find out concretely if the drive is actually PERFORMING those TRIM commands other than to wait and see if you notice any performance degradation. Yeah, weird, I know.
 
that is weird, and hell i probably wont notice a difference since no matter what it will be performing quicker than my desktop....it is pretty sad to say that(especially since its just my HDD thats holding my desktop load speeds back.......gotta say i was amazed at how quick it loads win 7....


on a side note, how do you like your Gigabyte for running your Q9450?(ive got one just sitting here, a Q9450, and am tyring to figure out a good mobo for it)
 
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