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Spring 2014 Build

rastaban said:
Ah, what kind of issues did you see with the G41?
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Basically quality control issues. A lot of the G41s arrived DOA or had various hardware not function quite right (i.e USB not working, NIC randomly disappearing from the device manager, not all memory slots were functional, etc), or just refused to POST right despite powering up. With that said, the MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING boards that we did have rarely had issues even when overclocked. Just goes to show that not everything by a manufacturer is good.

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I think the "prioritizing gaming traffic" part is silly. From the Killer control panel, you can select network priority for every program. I believe games default to "high" priority while normal programs are "normal" or "low." Nothing special really.
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Ahh. Hmm.. fair enough. I'll retract my statement on that aspect. Still, if the NIC was important to the OP, Intel is the better option. Since I'm fairly sure that isn't the case, I don't see the real appeal for the KillerNIC for the OP over a regular Realtek NIC.
Drakul said:
And with the rebate and MC discount it 'only' costs $119 which really isn't bad.
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If you're going to use that argument: the Asus Z87-A costs $105 after Microcenter discount. :)
 
Dangman said:
The Newegg reviews for the G41 haven't been too favourable. My own recent experiences with the G41 has kinda confirmed that as well. Hence why I stopped recommending the G41 awhile back.
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Well earlier you recommended me the Asus H87M Plus but I can't find too many reviews on it so not sure what to think.

BTW the Asus z87-A is back in stock at my MC but like for the G45 it's probably overkill.
 
Dangman said:
Ahh. Hmm.. fair enough. I'll retract my statement on that aspect. Still, if the NIC was important to the OP, Intel is the better option. Since I'm fairly sure that isn't the case, I don't see the real appeal for the KillerNIC for the OP over a regular Realtek NIC.


If you're going to use that argument: the Asus Z87-A costs $105 after Microcenter discount. :)
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And the Asus H87M is $89 but yeah argument is moot I just need to decide and go with it.

Re: NIC I mean I play MMOs and I stream stuff and use PS3 Media Server and such so of course I want a good connection but I'm not familiar with the differences between Realtek,killer, intel.... so it's hard to know what is best for me.
 
Drakul said:
And the Asus H87M is $89 but yeah argument is moot I just need to decide and go with it.

Re: NIC I mean I play MMOs and I stream stuff and use PS3 Media Server and such so of course I want a good connection but I'm not familiar with the differences between Realtek,killer, intel.... so it's hard to know what is best for me.
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For the majority of people out there, the Realtek is fine.
 
Just to be clear, I was recommending the ASUS H87M-PLUS/CSM. Not the H87M-Pro or H87M-E. Honestly, I'm making my recommendation on the assumption that CSM model should be more stable their normal consumer models.
 
Dangman said:
Just to be clear, I was recommending the ASUS H87M-PLUS/CSM. Not the H87M-Pro or H87M-E. Honestly, I'm making my recommendation on the assumption that CSM model should be more stable their normal consumer models.
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Yeah that's the one I was searching for but the Newegg reviews are a bit all over the place and I haven't found any dedicated review.
 
Well today is the day I go to MC... I guess I'll decide between the MSI G45 and the Asus H87M-Plus/CSM on the drive there :p
 
First step complete!

Went to MC and got my Intel i7 4770k and decided (kind impulse buy by the counter) to get the Asus z87-A.

I'll keep you all posted on the build and thanks again for the help!
 
A little update.

Just finished building but I have to go to work before I can test :'(

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That's a lot of Noctuas in a little case :)
Your PSU is upside down btw (competing with GPU for air)
 
It did boot, I'm on it right now. Installing all kinds of drivers, programs.... the usual.

rastaban said:
That's a lot of Noctuas in a little case :)
Your PSU is upside down btw (competing with GPU for air)
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Shouldn't the fan be at the top?
 
Drakul said:
Shouldn't the fan be at the top?
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For my builds, no they're not at the top: the risk of dropping stuff into the PSU outweighs whatever advantage the top mounted fan setup has.
 
Drakul said:
Shouldn't the fan be at the top?
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That depends on the case. Some cases have absolutely no clearance at all whatsoever between the PSU fan grille and the bottom panel and lack any vent holes whatsoever at the bottom panel. For such cases, then, the PSU fan must be oriented at the top. Otherwise, it usually doesn't matter much. However, if a particular case has vent holes at the bottom panel directly underneath the PSU location, and there is sufficient clearance between the bottom panel and the floor, then it is recommended to orient the PSU fan at the bottom.
 
rastaban said:
Your PSU is upside down btw (competing with GPU for air)
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Nonsense! ;)

Drakul said:
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There's a crap-ton of room between his GPU fans and his PSU fan and they're hardly competing for air if the GPU is exhausting back into the case, while the PSU fan is exhausting out of the case. Air doesn't flow like water--and even a complete vaccuum has a variable temperature, which can be affected by the temperature of the adjacent spaces.

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My GPUs are REALLY close to the PSU fan with 2 SLI 780 blowers that are actually competing for air with each other and the side panel exhaust. I would have the PSU fan down preferably, but then my wiring would be right at the top of the PSU instead of the bottom, and that would definitely disrupt airflow to the bottom card's intake as well as make a mess of things aesthetically.
 
fine, it's a mental thing haha

But dust will settle inside the PSU with it mounted vent-side up.
 
Drakul said:
I live in NW Houston so not far (about 30mins). Is it a good store? I've never been there and usually buy stuff on Newegg.
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This statement just makes me sad. I have to drive 4 hours to a MC and you live within 30 mins and have never been. :(
 
eth3ton said:
This statement just makes me sad. I have to drive 4 hours to a MC and you live within 30 mins and have never been. :(
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Haha well i moved to Houston 2 years ago and I last built a PC in 2008 when I lived in NY (where it's a real crying ridiculous shame that there's not a single good PC store in the city.)
 
rastaban said:
fine, it's a mental thing haha

But dust will settle inside the PSU with it mounted vent-side up.
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I use positive pressure and dust filters but I do worry about dropping screws in my PSU so when I'm working on my comp I set it down flat. They wouldn't put dust filters under the psu mount if dust weren't still an issue.
 
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