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'Spam King' Released From Prison

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What the? It sure seems like this guy went to jail just yesterday, doesn't it? Let's see, millions of dollars in exchange for a few years in a cushy federal prison? That's not too bad when you think about it. :eek:

Robert Soloway, who has admitted sending more than 10 trillion spam e-mails in his career, was released last Saturday from the Federal Correctional Institution in Sheridan, Oregon, reports Wired.com. As part of his plea deal, probation officers will monitor every e-mail Soloway sends and every webpage he visits for the next three years.
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Robert Soloway, who has admitted sending more than 10 trillion spam e-mails in his career, was released last Saturday from the Federal Correctional Institution in Sheridan, Oregon, reports Wired.com. As part of his plea deal, probation officers will monitor every e-mail Soloway sends and every webpage he visits for the next three years.
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Yea, I would love to know how they plan on enforcing that. :rolleyes:
 
As part of his probation, he should be forced into voluntary spyware/spam removal from users machines at a clinic where he must work 12 hours per day.

Then the prick will get a feeling for what it's like to be in IT cleaning up after assholes like him.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Yea, I would love to know how they plan on enforcing that. :rolleyes:
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Just like they do with the other scum on parole.
Some Parole agent will show up every 6 months or so, look around the front yard, ask him a couple questions, fill out a form saying he's in compliance, and then file thier time card for a full days work.
 
Chill out, he didn't kill someone.

Also, I've seen some of the reports on what it really cost companies to fight spam and it's very subjective to what the actual cost really is. This is based on published reports from security experts. Many say the cost is low, some say the costs are huge. Who really knows.

Why did he go to prison? He cost a lot of companies a lot of money. Plus, all those last minute hack job spam laws they passed.

I never see spam, gmail is freaking fantastic at filtering it away from my inbox. In fact, I see so little spam that when I do get it, I actually read it since it's such a rarity.
 
I heard that he got an early release due to a successful email campaign in support of his freedom.
 
nutzo said:
Just like they do with the other scum on parole.
Some Parole agent will show up every 6 months or so, look around the front yard, ask him a couple questions, fill out a form saying he's in compliance, and then file thier time card for a full days work.
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Spoken by someone who has no idea how federal supervised release works.
He is required to deliver his computer to his probation office so they may install computer monitoring software on to his machine. He is responsible to pay the monthly cost for the software and all of his internet activity is monitored, every email, web page, instant message etc etc.

Also because of this requirement he is assigned to a specific probation officer who is trained to specifically monitor offender's guilty of computer related crimes.

These specially trained probation officer's case load is almost all made up of child pornography related offender's. He is not in for an easy 3 year's of monitoring.

PS: He deserved far more prison time but the reality is he has served his sentence and he is just trying to move on with his life. The worst case scenario here is he skip's the country and set's up shop oversea's and society as a whole pays the price.
 
Bash said:
Spoken by someone who has no idea how federal supervised release works.
He is required to deliver his computer to his probation office so they may install computer monitoring software on to his machine. He is responsible to pay the monthly cost for the software and all of his internet activity is monitored, every email, web page, instant message etc etc.

Also because of this requirement he is assigned to a specific probation officer who is trained to specifically monitor offender's guilty of computer related crimes.

These specially trained probation officer's case load is almost all made up of child pornography related offender's. He is not in for an easy 3 year's of monitoring.

PS: He deserved far more prison time but the reality is he has served his sentence and he is just trying to move on with his life. The worst case scenario here is he skip's the country and set's up shop oversea's and society as a whole pays the price.
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Allow me to translate the bold. These guys who got taught how to execute a couple pieces of software and interpret the results it spits out.

I doubt this "monitoring" will be much more then a minor inconvenience.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Allow me to translate the bold. These guys who got taught how to execute a couple pieces of software and interpret the results it spits out.

I doubt this "monitoring" will be much more then a minor inconvenience.
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As long as he complies with the law and the guidelines set by the judge in his sentencing then yes he should have an easy time.

I do not really know what you are looking for here, do you want him to re-offend?
If he is caught using a separate computer then the one registered to him he will go back to prison.

The training is in computer forensic's and cybercime in general. These are well educated well trained federal employee's they know what they are doing. You maybe want the federal government to pay for 24 hour in house surveillance for a spammer?
 
SixFootDuo said:
Chill out, he didn't kill someone.

Also, I've seen some of the reports on what it really cost companies to fight spam and it's very subjective to what the actual cost really is. This is based on published reports from security experts. Many say the cost is low, some say the costs are huge. Who really knows.

Why did he go to prison? He cost a lot of companies a lot of money. Plus, all those last minute hack job spam laws they passed.

I never see spam, gmail is freaking fantastic at filtering it away from my inbox. In fact, I see so little spam that when I do get it, I actually read it since it's such a rarity.
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This guy should be doing [H]ARD fucking labor digging ditches somewhere. I worked in Desktop support when spyware was at it's worst. And keeping 6-7,000 computers malware free was no easy or cheap task. A lot of time and money was wasted, and even more money was spent on the current required measures to keep the crap that he helped pioneer, out.
 
This guy should be doing [H]ARD fucking labor digging ditches somewhere. I worked in Desktop support when spyware was at it's worst. And keeping 6-7,000 computers malware free was no easy or cheap task
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Dunno about you but the number of spam-related malware infections for us has been <1%. Since we blocked port 25/465, no one has successfully sent spam from our domain. Most malware is fake-antivirus, with the occasional extortion malware thrown in.

Throwing people in jail hasn't put a dent in spamming operations, it just means the people who profit are Brazillian instead of American. There's no question that the estimates for the overall "cost" of spam are vastly inflated.
 
I think a fair punishment for people convicted for spamming would be 1 second of jail time for each mail they sent, served consecutively, rounded down to the nearest year. I figure 1 second is a fair amount of time for the recipient to notice it was spam and delete it so basically he's serving the time he forced other people to waste.

At 10 trillion emails this guy would only be required to serve 317097 years in jail.
 
I'm shaking my head over the monitoring of his emails for three years. If a court thought his spamming was worth sending him to prison for, what genius thought he should ever be allowed near a computer again? Have we really reached a point where internet access is considered necessary for life or, considered a right?
 
uhhh it kind of is. I bought a new house last year and had to update my address for a bunch of things, many of which (government stuff included) was done online... There simply was no alternative. I'm in Canada which may be different from the US but still.

That said, this guy made MILLIONS by unilaterally pissing off the entire world! Mind you his crimes were equivalent to perhaps letting his dog crap on your front lawn - not really causing any true harm, but really pissing you off.

But he did it to so many people that collectively I think 3 years is a slap on the wrist, he should of spent 10 years behind bars if you ask me... he knew it was wrong for years and did it anyways...
 
RyanLucier said:
That said, this guy made MILLIONS by unilaterally pissing off the entire world! Mind you his crimes were equivalent to perhaps letting his dog crap on your front lawn - not really causing any true harm, but really pissing you off.
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They should make him pick up dog poop in his community until he's picked up at least a trillion poops, then.
 
RyanLucier said:
uhhh it kind of is. I bought a new house last year and had to update my address for a bunch of things, many of which (government stuff included) was done online... There simply was no alternative. I'm in Canada which may be different from the US but still.

That said, this guy made MILLIONS by unilaterally pissing off the entire world! Mind you his crimes were equivalent to perhaps letting his dog crap on your front lawn - not really causing any true harm, but really pissing you off.

But he did it to so many people that collectively I think 3 years is a slap on the wrist, he should of spent 10 years behind bars if you ask me... he knew it was wrong for years and did it anyways...
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Shens. Every government office on the planet has a physical address. You may not be able to talk to them in person but, you sure as hell can send them snail mail.
 
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