sony's turn

I'm surprised Sony didn't show any RPGs. I mean, isn't that the reason why PS3 was being sold in Japan?
 
WEAK.
Nothing new at all. Nothing unexpected at all.
At least Nintendo had voice support coming for some of their games.
Just telling us about things we already knew about and reassuring us that Home hasn't been scrapped is a joke.
Yes, LBP seems cool, but making it the focus of anything is giving it too much credit.

FAIL.
 
Wow, that was the worst E3 conference i've seen since historically accurate giant enemy crabs :)

Was it Just me or did Jack seem like he just wanted to go home? He seemed so...lethargic!
 
Jerome36 said:
He was probably watching Nintendo's conference before he went up on stage. That could account for anybody looking sleepy and lethargic.
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LOL no argument there. I was SO disappointed with Nintendo's conference. This year I have to say I was surprised, I expected Nintendo and Sony both to dominate and Microsoft to sit on their asses and act like they didn't need to do anything different, yet it was the exact opposite. Unbelievable, but MS really stole the whole show, and left Ninny and Sony in the dust!
 
Loggahead said:
Key word is IMAGINE. Too bad it will likely suck balls by the time 2010 rolls around.
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Such a nay sayer. MAG will most likely take cues from Resistance 2 with the squad based approach. But ill still say it. ALL of these conferences were terrible. MS had one bombshell and they stole the show. BAH what happened to being amazed for the full 2 hours of sitting in your chair. Oh i know.. E3 became downsized. Tokyo game show and Leipzig have better shows BY FAR.. possibly even GDC.
 
WaterproofPaper said:
Such a nay sayer. MAG will most likely take cues from Resistance 2 with the squad based approach. But ill still say it. ALL of these conferences were terrible. MS had one bombshell and they stole the show. BAH what happened to being amazed for the full 2 hours of sitting in your chair. Oh i know.. E3 became downsized. Tokyo game show and Leipzig have better shows BY FAR.. possibly even GDC.
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I disagree, MS had 2 bombshells: FF13 and Netflix integration. Also the new UI, while not bombshell, is *significant*. Hard drive installs is a significant as well.

MS raped both Sony and Nintendo this year, but especially Sony.
 
I don't think I'd call the NetFlix announcement a bombshell though... of course it's all opinion anyway. Mainly though, because a lot of people were expecting it. It was actually a rumor that popped up a few weeks ago... if not over a month ago! I remember discussions about it (not here though). It was big news though. However, the FFXIII came out of no-where, and I don't think anybody could have predicted that one. That was definitely a bombshell.
 
DragonMasterAlex said:
I disagree, MS had 2 bombshells: FF13 and Netflix integration. Also the new UI, while not bombshell, is *significant*. Hard drive installs is a significant as well.

MS raped both Sony and Nintendo this year, but especially Sony.
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mmmmmm rape :drool:
 
WaterproofPaper said:
Such a nay sayer. MAG will most likely take cues from Resistance 2 with the squad based approach. But ill still say it. ALL of these conferences were terrible. MS had one bombshell and they stole the show. BAH what happened to being amazed for the full 2 hours of sitting in your chair. Oh i know.. E3 became downsized. Tokyo game show and Leipzig have better shows BY FAR.. possibly even GDC.
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E3 had sucky years when it was an over indulged mess that had nothing at all to do with games. Its had terrible showings for like 5 years in a row now. The last one that I remember being blown away by was when HL2 was announced along with a lot of other kick ass games.

Not nearly as many games are announced at E3 or any other expo anymore, its been like that for awhile now.
 
Jerome36 said:
I don't think I'd call the NetFlix announcement a bombshell though... of course it's all opinion anyway. Mainly though, because a lot of people were expecting it. It was actually a rumor that popped up a few weeks ago... if not over a month ago! I remember discussions about it (not here though). It was big news though. However, the FFXIII came out of no-where, and I don't think anybody could have predicted that one. That was definitely a bombshell.
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True, Netflix has been rumored and hoped-for for awhile now, but when I say "bombshell" what I mean is that it's a huge, important win for MS. To have suddenly gained a doubling of their movie and tv show offerings, and to be able to do it by letting consumers use a cheap $10 a month netflix account for unlimited movies and shows...well, let's just say that's FAR more significant than $4-6 per rental movie downloads (which MS itself has offered for almost 2 years on 360 now), and has the potential to sway loads of netflix or similar service using consumers.

I expect that the netflix deal will sell more 360's *and* more netflix subscriptions. I have been using blockbuster's online rental service (no streaming though) for $21 a month, but come this fall I'll be dropping it like a hot potato and running to netflix.

I'd also point out that the games lineup simply looks far more compelling on 360 for yet another year, and that Sony once again made the "just imagine what next year will be like!" claim. While I want to see PS3 be home to some great titles--and there are a couple I want to ultimately play--I think the "just you wait!" argument is about as worn out as any argument could ever be. At this point Sony needs to either put up or shut up.
 
btw will far cry 2 have user created content and the ability to use mouse and keyboparD?
 
DragonMasterAlex said:
True, Netflix has been rumored and hoped-for for awhile now, but when I say "bombshell" what I mean is that it's a huge, important win for MS. To have suddenly gained a doubling of their movie and tv show offerings, and to be able to do it by letting consumers use a cheap $10 a month netflix account for unlimited movies and shows...well, let's just say that's FAR more significant than $4-6 per rental movie downloads (which MS itself has offered for almost 2 years on 360 now), and has the potential to sway loads of netflix or similar service using consumers.

I expect that the netflix deal will sell more 360's *and* more netflix subscriptions. I have been using blockbuster's online rental service (no streaming though) for $21 a month, but come this fall I'll be dropping it like a hot potato and running to netflix.

I'd also point out that the games lineup simply looks far more compelling on 360 for yet another year, and that Sony once again made the "just imagine what next year will be like!" claim. While I want to see PS3 be home to some great titles--and there are a couple I want to ultimately play--I think the "just you wait!" argument is about as worn out as any argument could ever be. At this point Sony needs to either put up or shut up.
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netfix is only for america though. it amy do wonders there but over here in europe and japan, the ps3 will continue to sell more then the 360
 
jonneymendoza said:
netfix is only for america though. it amy do wonders there but over here in europe and japan, the ps3 will continue to sell more then the 360
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360 will never sell more than the PS3 in Japan (well, other than the rare week here and there). That said, given you're talking about less than 30k a month difference between the two on average in Japan I'm not sure what that actually means.
 
jonneymendoza said:
netfix is only for america though. it amy do wonders there but over here in europe and japan, the ps3 will continue to sell more then the 360
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The 360 needs a price cut in Europe. That's really the problem. I don't think the problems it's having there are nearly on the same level as, say, Japan.
 
erwos said:
The 360 needs a price cut in Europe. That's really the problem. I don't think the problems it's having there are nearly on the same level as, say, Japan.
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It's already $200 cheaper than the PS3 in Europe. It needs a shitload of advertising and an image change. But yes, you're right that it's not doing nearly as badly in Europe as it is in Japan.
 
erwos said:
The 360 needs a price cut in Europe. That's really the problem. I don't think the problems it's having there are nearly on the same level as, say, Japan.
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Well i don't really see such need.

It's already cheapest console here.

I mean even HDMI premium costs as much as Wii+Sports package and Elite here is cheaper than PS3.
 
jonneymendoza said:
pathetic conference indeed
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Its just not the same as it was before they scaled it back. That one was lame as well because of all the other junk that went along with it, but everyone knew they had to man up and show off something awesome. Now its just another conference. What we saw this week is pretty much the norm for what to expect out of e3 now.
 
What's really strange is that on Yahoo and even G4, they act as though Sony's press conference was a big deal.
Granted Nintendo had nothing, but MS pretty much spilled the beans on everything they have coming for the next year...and much of that was brand new and a big deal.
I don't get it.
 
From what I've seen, everyone had a handful of features and accessories to announce, yet no one really dropped anything unexpected regarding games. God of War III was a given (the pointless "teaser" trailer doesn't help), Gears of War 2 was a given (again, no surprise and nothing jaw-dropping here), and the best Nintendo could manage was a remote add-on that should have been there to begin with and a retarded looking music game.

Was it just me, or were the third-party developers kinda... absent?
 
E3 was just a torrent of lame, wasn't it? Nobody really brought the goods IMO.

I have to say I am really interested to see how Mirror's Edge turns out. I basically played Assassin's Creed for the freerunning system so it would be really cool if they make it work well in first person.
 
Rehevkor said:
Was it just me, or were the third-party developers kinda... absent?
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These were the main companies' keynotes so its not surprising that the vast majority of games shown were first or second party titles. Insomniac had a rather large presence at sony's, but mostly because they don't have as much internal development coming soon as the other 2 have.
 
enlightenedby42 said:
E3 was just a torrent of lame, wasn't it? Nobody really brought the goods IMO.

I have to say I am really interested to see how Mirror's Edge turns out. I basically played Assassin's Creed for the freerunning system so it would be really cool if they make it work well in first person.
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Same here. I Am Alive also looks interesting. It's from the Assassin's Creed crew so I have high hopes for that as well.
 
DragonMasterAlex said:
True, Netflix has been rumored and hoped-for for awhile now, but when I say "bombshell" what I mean is that it's a huge, important win for MS. To have suddenly gained a doubling of their movie and tv show offerings, and to be able to do it by letting consumers use a cheap $10 a month netflix account for unlimited movies and shows...well, let's just say that's FAR more significant than $4-6 per rental movie downloads (which MS itself has offered for almost 2 years on 360 now), and has the potential to sway loads of netflix or similar service using consumers.

I expect that the netflix deal will sell more 360's *and* more netflix subscriptions. I have been using blockbuster's online rental service (no streaming though) for $21 a month, but come this fall I'll be dropping it like a hot potato and running to netflix.
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Netflix isnt that big of a deal. Microsoft did get it, but for the average family, they would rather buy the netflix box in order to watch streaming movies. At $100 its a steal. Theres no point in watching movies on a 360 being as loud as it is. The netflix box is dead silent and does exactly what the netflix on the 360 does. Its a nice addon for the 360 owners yes, but for people who have the choice between the two then they are probably going to go for the cheaper option.
 
WaterproofPaper said:
Theres no point in watching movies on a 360 being as loud as it is.
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Have you heard the new 360s? I'm not talking about when they're playing a game (DVD noise) but when they're used for watching movies or playing downloaded games... they're pretty damn quiet.
 
Psychotext said:
Have you heard the new 360s? I'm not talking about when they're playing a game (DVD noise) but when they're used for watching movies or playing downloaded games... they're pretty damn quiet.
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Yeah, mine has always been VERY quiet when the DVD drive isn't running. I have had both an original premium and upgraded to an Elite when they came out. Maybe I am just lucky, but both were always very quiet (except for the DVD drive... that sounds like a helicopter landing in my living room).
 
Psychotext said:
Have you heard the new 360s? I'm not talking about when they're playing a game (DVD noise) but when they're used for watching movies or playing downloaded games... they're pretty damn quiet.
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Mine is quiet as well... even when watching a dvd movie. I don't think the drive is spinning the disk very fast, when all it is is a movie. Even original Xbox games are quiet. It's only when I put in an Xbox 360 title that it gets really loud.
 
I dunno if im real sensitive but the 360 is still too loud for me when watching movies, when it comes to my home theatre setup i wanna hear every single detail with no interfrence even at low sound volume. I admit im very picky!
 
Rash said:
I dunno if im real sensitive but the 360 is still too loud for me when watching movies, when it comes to my home theatre setup i wanna hear every single detail with no interfrence even at low sound volume. I admit im very picky!
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Old model? Because yeah, some of them sounded horrible.
 
Psychotext said:
Old model? Because yeah, some of them sounded horrible.
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Yes old model but i cant justify selling it for 2nd hand price just to buy a newer model when i have alternative media players like the ps3/pc
 
Rash said:
Yes old model but i cant justify selling it for 2nd hand price just to buy a newer model when i have alternative media players like the ps3/pc
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For sure. I think I'm going to consider buying a slim version if they ever release though. :)
 
Domingo said:
What's really strange is that on Yahoo and even G4, they act as though Sony's press conference was a big deal.
Granted Nintendo had nothing, but MS pretty much spilled the beans on everything they have coming for the next year...and much of that was brand new and a big deal.
I don't get it.
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It's called "fanboy bias" and has no place in journalism. Much like the author of that bogus "Sony takes the console lead" story on yahoo has no place in journalism.
 
WaterproofPaper said:
Netflix isnt that big of a deal. Microsoft did get it, but for the average family, they would rather buy the netflix box in order to watch streaming movies. At $100 its a steal. Theres no point in watching movies on a 360 being as loud as it is. The netflix box is dead silent and does exactly what the netflix on the 360 does. Its a nice addon for the 360 owners yes, but for people who have the choice between the two then they are probably going to go for the cheaper option.
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I think you're completely mistaken. For the family that *already has* a 360--which numbers over 10 million in the US--I'm sure they would much rather get a free upgrade that lets them stream Netflix via that 360 than they would to spend an extra $100 and have to connect *yet another device* to their TV.

On the issue of noise, while it's true that the earlier 360's were loud, the new ones really aren't very loud at all (yes, I own one). The DVD drive is really the loudest part of the new 360's, and when streaming a movie that won't be spinning at all, making the 360--you guessed it--almost dead silent. And really, even with the old 360's you're not going to hear the thing over the sound of the tv if you have it turned up enough to actually, you know, HEAR it :)

It's also worth pointing out that people on the fence about getting a 360 may be additionally swayed by the inclusion of netflix support, which will undoubtedly be touted in big friendly letters on the box.
 
The cheaper Roku box option is also a waste of money in my opinion. Having netflix functionality on the 360 is just a free bonus.
 
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