Michaelius
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Yes but if online activation servers go down x years in the future and they give no patch to change that we will be forced to use illegal methods to play our game.
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So who's getting mass effect
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That's what I said though. Older games have no support either. But I bought them. Now I can't play them (supported). Had to get emulators or unofficial patch/crack to get it to work on a new OS/video card whatever. All games eventually wont have support except by fans. I can't say that 100% on a console. I bought an xbox game, xbox360 isn't compatible. Now I have to keep buying a system or hope for compatiblity.
Exactly.
There's a distinct difference between your game being an actual game and you having to go through a few hoops to set up an appropriate environment. With MOO or MOO2, it doesn't matter if the original company is still around. If I still had a DOS system around, I'd be able to throw the CD in and play no hassles. As-is I install DosBox and away I go.
Compare this to online authentication servers... it's no longer simply about having the appropriate environment... now it's about hoping that the company is still around and still willing to give you permission.
Because if they're not, you have to either break the law and circumvent the copyright protection mechanism or do without.
First off....what's MOO and MOO2
Well for me, a game that stopped working was Alice. Tried contacting support for the game and I couldn't get any. Game simply wouldn't work because of the copy protection now. I had to crack it. I don't really see a problem with that. I supported the game (and Mcgee and team) when it was released. There is going to be a time when they simply can't put resources into it.
First off....what's MOO and MOO2
MOO is short for Master of Orion. Old-school 4x game. Nifty thing about it was you designed your own ships. As an idea of age... I think it requires a 16mhz processor or some such
Oh, I'm right with you in that morally cracking a game in such a situation is OK. I'm just pointing out that, if you live in the US or a country that the US has pushing into incorporating legislation similar to our DMCA, then taking such action is illegal.
Exactly, and when the company has to actively provide resources for your game to work... well... that's kind of the root of my concern
MOO is short for Master of Orion. Old-school 4x game. Nifty thing about it was you designed your own ships. As an idea of age... I think it requires a 16mhz processor or some such
Oh man I used to love that game!
I love how people making these claims about it not working 3 years from now have nothing to back up that claim other than what they perceive will happen. In reality though, this is virtually never the case. In the event the authentication servers ever do stop being supported (which will most likely be much longer than 3 years from now), there will be a multitude of work around which aren't difficult. If anything, playing old PC games is significantly easier than playing old console games. I can toss in my copy of MOO2 and play away. The same cannot be said of all my old SNES games (well you can emulate but it takes quite a bit more work).
Oh, and my copy is in the mail.
Oh, and my copy is in the mail.
Even IF the DRM scheme worked perfectly in this case (restrictions and all), it remains that they are treating paying customers like criminals, while it's the actual pirates who won't be having any problems whatsoever with the DRM.
Ideally, more of us gamers would be willing to put aside this game for the sake of the principle that's being raped here. But I guess some of us are just going to bend over and take it.
Not me, though.
Ideally, more of us gamers would be willing to put aside this game for the sake of the principle that's being raped here. But I guess some of us are just going to bend over and take it.
Not me, though.
If its illegal for people to use a product they bought and legally own long after the company stopped supporting it, then the system is broken.
Also I'm not planning on buying this game because of the copy protection. I would rather play Oblivion again or waste my time somewhere else rather than encourage these companies and their crazy DRM.
The system is indeed broken. Look into the DMCA and how restrictive it is. Any attempt at bypassing any kind of copyright protection scheme is illegal according to the DMCA, and it doesn't matter whether you acquired the content legally or not.
Well first off you're assuming they don't put out a patch that removes the DRM. This has happened before. Second, it's illegal to do tons of crap. However, your odds of being prosecuted for cracking a game after authentication servers have stopped is about zero. Not too mention there has been zero cases actually brought forward against users cracking legitimate purchases. Hell, I probably broke a dozen laws on my way to work today. That's the world we live in.
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yay apathy...
Honestly, it doesn't bother me, I don't see a difference in this versus Steam vanishing and me losing the ability to re-download all the games I own on that.
edit: I still have enough trust left in me to think that Valve and Bioware won't leave me high and dry when they decide to shut things down.
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I'm sort of disappointed with this game total lack of anti-aliasing support.