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Rydawg5143

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So I'm trying to figure out why my computer seems sluggish last few weeks or so. I've uninstalled all types of drivers and reinstalled. Twice I have said fuck it and formatted both HD's and reinstalled windows and then installed 1 driver at a time only to gte the same preformance issues. Is there a program(s) where i can test my mobo/hd/gpu/cpu etc for flaws or such. Already did the memory in memtest for like 24 hours and all is good. I had 8 GB in it 2gbx4 and took out 4gb to test and nothign changed.

Basically games are slower than they were 1 month ago ( Frame rates are down about 10-20 even with OCing the GPU) I get random hangs when i try and open something ( eventually it will open but takes a minute or so ( where it used to be instant) STarts really slow ( my gf's amd Athlon 64x2 3600 with generic HD etc starts 45 secs faster than mine. Vista Premium SP1 takes forever to load when i reinstalled and it hung a time or 2.

I don't have the computer in front of me atm ( at work now) but wanted to start this thread with hope of getting some ideas/links before i get home.

Oh yeah, system in sig

Please help and I will serve you forever!
 
Did these performance decreases occur after you installed SP1?
 
It should.

Heat issues?

Any strange external devices that confuse Vista?

Try reducing your hardware to the absolute minimum for error tracking. 1 HDD, 1 or 2 RAM sticks, no additional PCI cards, etc.

Did you run XP before? Maybe it's Vista that feels slower :confused:
 
Heat is fine, Got an antec 900 and everst shows cpu's idle at 45 ( coretemp shows idle at 42)
Have an external seagate 500gb, but it plugged in about half the time.
I ran Vista 32 bit b4, jumped to 64 when i did this build.

I'll pull out my 320 GB HD tonight and ee whats up. Actually double thinking, I'll install vista on the 320 gb and pull the 640 out. I got the 640 around when my frps started to lower... hmmm never thought about HD hehe
 
Hard drives going bad can cause the overall chugging in windows, but make sure your RAM voltage is set right in the BIOS as well. It seems Intel boards are notorious for only setting RAM voltage at 1.8v by default. My G.Skill sticks claim to run at 1.8v DDR2 800, but they run alot better at 1.9v.
 
I'll look into the voltage tonight, also plan on installign OS on my 3200aaks tonight and pulling the 6400aaks. Is ther e aprogram that will check Hard drive issues?
 
There is the SMART checking that some programs offer (Speedfan for example), but that won't show much since the drives are pretty new. Also, if you want to use that, make sure the SMART functionality is activated in the BIOS.
 
i may ( or not) have found the issue. I was reseating my cpu/hsf cause i got some tx-2 and noticed a pin of 2 on the motherboard where the cpu sits, are bent. Could this be an issue?
 
Bent? They all should be "bent". But I guess you mean bent different than the others. If the bent pins are not making contact with the proper pads on the CPU, then I doubt the system would even POST. But I suppose it could depending on which pins they were. You can use a "straw" from a aresol can (like WD40, canned Air, etc...) to gently straighten the pins, but on a 775 mobo it's not going to be easy.
 
I've got the feeling its my motherboard. Can any1 suggest another motherboard that would be compatable with my system please, hopefully not to pricey since Im goign to RMA my other one?
 
Its to the point where with my fresh instal of windows, drivers and steam. I get max frps in tf2 of 70 and min or 30 with avg of 50. with my system and 4870, shouldnt be happeneing.

When i start my computer it take forever, when i shut it down, it take forever, when i close a window it will stall a sec, ima shoot myself

Seems the only bios for my board per GA website is for 32 bit, im running 64....
 
Last night I tested boith the Hard drives in the girlfriends computer and they work fine, also installed the ram in her computer with no issue. I installed the videocard in her system and she did get a slight increase in preformance but like it should be, but i chalked that up to her cpu bottlenecking ( amd athlon 64 x2 3600+) So I'm certain its the cpu or motherboard and/or drivers :p

On the bright side I knocked off a couple of the possible issues the bad part, i dont have another intel system to check the mobo or cpu........ Where can i find cheap that i could try ?
 
Rydawg5143 said:
On the bright side I knocked off a couple of the possible issues the bad part, i dont have another intel system to check the mobo or cpu........ Where can i find cheap that i could try ?
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Fry's or Microcenter if you have one nearby. They usually sell cheap ECS motherboards that'll be fine for just testing purposes.You should also be able to find cheap Celeron or Pentium Dual Core CPUs there as well.

Also, did you set the BIOs back to factory defaults? Slight chance that a BIOs setting may have lower the performance of your system. Also, if you look under CPU-Z, what does say under "Link Width" in the Mainboard tab?

And how did you "test" the hard drives? Google, download, burn to a CD and boot Drive Fitness Test. See if there's anything wrong with the drives themselves.
 
I have a microcenter 2 blocks from my work so i'll go at lunch if i can get a fast response :) WHat would you suggest exactly for the mobo?
 
they usually have asus p5k/q open box for 70-100bucks if i remember right as well.
 
Rydawg5143 said:
I have a microcenter 2 blocks from my work so i'll go at lunch if i can get a fast response :) WHat would you suggest exactly for the mobo?
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Ok, get the cheapest P35/G33/G35 motherboard you can find from either Asus or Gigabyte or MSI.

Or if you want to save even more money, pick up an ECS motherboard. Make sure that it's compatible with the E8400. You may have to ask someone there for help with that.
 
I didn't make it to microcenter yet. As I was leaving to go there walkign to my car i stumble upon the fedex guy and he has my BenQ G2400WD, so i zoomed home to plug it in to make sure nothing was wrong with it ( its super awesome looking)

So i get home and hook it up, turn on my computer and it doesnt POST, just sits at the 1st screen ( Gigabyte screen) i restart, same thing. It took 10 restarts to finally get into windows, and even then it was slow and once in windows everything was choppy 10 fold what it normally is.
 
Went to micro center tonight, walked outta the store with the same mobo and cpu that i had, both for 200 bucks out the door. So should be a little easier testing.

note- when i pulled the old e8400 outta the old board, the cpu has some strange mark on the bottom that wouldnt come off.

- after not being able to get the new board with old cpu to instal windows, the nmew cpu and old board ran right into and I am doing drivers atm.

RMA old cpu?
 
Can you take a picture of your new and old CPU side by side? Just the underside of the CPU where the gold is.

Was your old CPU overclocked?
 
no it wasn't
new one is in system atm and loading drivers etc, once all is set ill take pics. what you think may have happened?
 
Danny Bui said:
Fry's or Microcenter if you have one nearby. They usually sell cheap ECS motherboards that'll be fine for just testing purposes.You should also be able to find cheap Celeron or Pentium Dual Core CPUs there as well.

Also, did you set the BIOs back to factory defaults? Slight chance that a BIOs setting may have lower the performance of your system. Also, if you look under CPU-Z, what does say under "Link Width" in the Mainboard tab?

And how did you "test" the hard drives? Google, download, burn to a CD and boot Drive Fitness Test. See if there's anything wrong with the drives themselves.
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Link width is at x16 with max of x16.
So far new cpu with old board = same prefornce issues, will try new with new to see, the new mobo with old cpu

Forgot to add, I thought the e8400 was stock at 3 Ghz, cpu-z, bios all say its at 2.83 ??

Set bios back to 'optimized defaults' doign that seems to reclock the cpu at 3.0 ghz in bios and cpu-z
 
i installed the new bios drivers that gigabyte put out this week, that seemed to have reclocked my cpu at 3 ghz instead of 2.83.
Everything seems to be working good with old board and new cpu. I'm going to drop the old cpu in on monday ( when ill have time) Dropping in a cpu that is same type, should just run w/o installing anything new, right ?
Also would like to add, somewhere inbetween the new cpu, reseating it with tx-2 and new bios. My cpu temps dropped 10 degrees. me thinks that be gud when i finally get around to ocing
 
Rydawg5143 said:
Dropping in a cpu that is same type, should just run w/o installing anything new, right ?
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Yup, should run just fine without reinstalling the OS.

So the performance issue is gone now with the new CPU and old mobo? A post ago, you said the performance issue was still persistent. What about the old CPU and new mobo?
 
its gone, i put the new bios ( just released like 2 days ago) and working good now. I still kind of think i should get better preformance outta the 4870 in TF2 but i cant complain, my frp only drop to 50ish with everyone going nuts. I need to test some other games... and OC my computer :p
 
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