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SIXAXIS Rumble Confirmed.

Rash said:
Yer i know some of you would rather Sony have said " there isnt going to be rumble for PS3 because of a LawSuit etc" But no company is going to announce they are in the process of being sued.

Some PS3 Owners may feel shafted by Sony Because of rumble but they will get over it, some people on here just like to bitch even thought they dont own a PS3, But at least in the Near Furture new PS3 Owners will have the full experience with nextgen games and past titles wirelessly and with rumble and with original mapped keys unlike the Wii.
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I agree that most companies wouldn't admit to the lawsuit thing...but the fact is that it wasn't a secret, and Sony went out of their way to convince gamers that rumble would never be a feature because it wasn't needed, and the "Sixaxis" was far more advanced. Also the "rumble not working with wireless" thing was absurd since Microsoft had no problem doing it.:rolleyes: What would be wrong with them simply coming clean and saying "rumble won't initially be a feature due to issues beyond our control but we will try to implement something similar in the future"? To most people the problem is not so much that Sony didn't include rumble....but rather the arrogance they displayed in explaining why...especially since it was directly opposite from the hype surrounding the original "dual shock" that was released with the PS1/ PS2.
 
I'm glad I haven't bought any extra PS3 controllers. I will buy one rumble controller when they come out, but I can't say I'm happy about it. The lack of a replacable battery bothers me.

On some of the other discussions. Lets face it, Sony tried to give Immersion the finger, and ended up getting that finger shoved up their own ass and the hand with it. They tried to tell the market that it was an old feature, but every other console has it, even the Wii which also has motion controls. So, now they are eating more crow and offering it late. There is nothing wrong with giving Sony shit about this. They fucked up, and now if the customer wants to have the feature that they clipped from the original system, they have to pony up more cash. As usual, the customer gets to pay for company's business blunder.
 
Glad to hear its coming. I only have one gamepad so having an extra couldn't hurt. I still wish the battery could be removed though. Not to mention I wish all PS3 titles supported it. Looks like Ninja Gaiden Sigma doesn't support it. :(
 
Well Crap, this thread turned into a flame war quick.
Please don't ruin this thread, I don't care about anything XBOX 360 or Wii related PERIOD when it comes to the PS3 getting rumble.
Please don't thread crap and maybe try and talk about Sony having rumble.
I don't even care if you bash on Sony cause we all know they deserve it in many respects...just don't make this into a X360 vs. Wii vs. PS3 thing AGAIN!

Thank you to the last few posters who have kept it on topic.
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So anyways, I am looking forward to the rumble even though I was not one of the people who was pissed about it in the first place....I haven't really found myself wanting it while playing any games, that said I think it is something I will enjoy using.

It will be interesting to see if previous games get net updates to include rumble but I doubt it. My concern for PS2 games using the rumble is a 3rd of 4th tier concern as I hardly play PS2 games on my PS3 anymore.

So my questions now are,
1. Which games are you hoping will have rumble included in them and which games already out do you wish would somehow get updated to use it? Even if that seems like a far away wish?
2. Do you think new controllers will cost more than our current ones and will they come with longer lasting batteries? As of right now I think the PS3 internal battery lasts a VERY long time so maybe handling the rumble won't really be that hard for it?
 
Small update: Gamespot spoke with good ol Philly (sarcasm noted) about the new Dual Shock 3...here are some clippings:
Harrison told GameSpot that the primary reason that the company bought back the Dual Shock rumble controller was that people wanted it. He said, "A lot of people have been asking for it, and now we've done it."

"That's how we were able to retrespectively upgrade." He added that gamers would soon be seeing Dual Shock support for previously released PS3 titles, including Resistence: Fall of Man, and MotorStorm.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6179318.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6179318
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So, it sounds like previous games will be able to update for the Dual Shock support...sounds good.

PS. I also love the freudian of them saying "Sony BOUGHT back DS rumble" instead of BROUGHT back....or maybe they were taking a sneaky stab at them:p either way it was funny... haha
 
CopyCat said:
1. Which games are you hoping will have rumble included in them and which games already out do you wish would somehow get updated to use it? Even if that seems like a far away wish?
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I personally don't care if they don't update any of the past games. Motorstorm and Resistance were awesome without rumble. Didn't notice rumble was missing there and won't notice it missing anywhere else.

The only reason why I'd want them to updated EVERY past game with rumble would be to shut up all the whiners. Putting it into every past game isn't as must of a "far away wish" as wishing all this whining would stop.

Again, no rumble has never been an issue with me, just my opinion.
 
deception`` said:
Assuming what you say is true, Sony should have alluded to the cost of rumble as a factor. Instead, they talked about how rumble was obsolete and next-gen. They made rumble out to be a feature they could care less about, only to add it again less than a year into the products lifecycle. For the last time, nobody can fault a company for problems dealing with litigation but their own marketing and statements are not helping.

Also I think its worth noting that I [nor many, many people] refuse to give Microsoft a pass for their terrible hardware issues with the 360 [or things such as charging almost $200 for a 120GB HD]. Yes, I am a 360 owner but that is not an excuse.

Maybe one day you'll realize that not everyone makes a point to take shots at Sony alone; every company has done something particularly stupid this time with the exception perhaps being Nintendo. I'm sure you enjoy your PS3; that's perfectly fine. However, that does not mean that Sony has done themselves no favors in their overall handling of this console. Again, I love my 360, but I am not in denial of the fact that Microsoft has some real quality control issues this go around.
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I see what you are trying to say but I did address that in the other sentences of my post thet were not quoted. I am not about to comment on the successes or failures of the 360 because I do not own one. I am also not going to buy one, because I don't make large amounts of money and cannot afford to have both systems. This is not meant as a dig at anyone who can afford both it is just a statement on my personal financial status.

I would like to ask a question though. Is the introduction of Rumble a good thing? I mean this in a yes or no context. I am not trying to discuss the timing of it, or the Spin that was used in marketing. I believe the answer is a definitive yes. People want the Rumble. People requested it from Sony and Sony has responded to their requests.
 
Crighton said:
I see what you are trying to say but I did address that in the other sentences of my post thet were not quoted. I am not about to comment on the successes or failures of the 360 because I do not own one. I am also not going to buy one, because I don't make large amounts of money and cannot afford to have both systems. This is not meant as a dig at anyone who can afford both it is just a statement on my personal financial status.

I would like to ask a question though. Is the introduction of Rumble a good thing? I mean this in a yes or no context. I am not trying to discuss the timing of it, or the Spin that was used in marketing. I believe the answer is a definitive yes. People want the Rumble. People requested it from Sony and Sony has responded to their requests.
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No offense, but the matter is not as black and white as you want it to be. Take this for example:

Q: Is it a good thing that Microsoft has introduced a 3-year RROD warranty?

A: Yes, but their hardware issues should never have gotten this bad to begin with.

It works both ways my friend. Of course, rumble is a good thing, but it is a feature that should have been included [at no additional charge] since day one. It's one thing to be unable to legally include the feature; it's another to categorically bash said feature only to add it at additional costs for current console owners.

What you want is for people to praise Sony for adding this feature when the reality is that it was mishandled since day one. Similarly, I refuse to give Microsoft a pat on the back for placing a band-aid on an issue that should not exist in the first place. It works both ways.
 
CopyCat said:
Quick question. Why do you feel a need to try and find the negative in this announcement? I can only see this being a positive for gamers

Just don't see the reason for hating an a good thing, thats all.
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because it's amusement. When a family values senator gets caught propositioning people for anonymous gay sex in bathrooms, people like to mock them.

Sony didn't have rumble initially on the ps3 because they were too cheap to pay off immersion. They decided they'd mock rumble, call it a last gen gimmick, and so on, ignoring that the gaming public wanted the feature.

Then they settle their lawsuit and release a controller with rumble. Pardon the well deserved chuckle.
 
And now after several months I ask this again, was it worth it for MS to rush the 360 to the market ?
I would've gladly waited another year, since they didn't get it done right the first time. ( Which is what most of you are doing now; waiting for Falcon)

Beta testing for a console that isn't ready for primetime leaves a bad taste in my mouth
 
Where exactly is the decree saying that the PS3 would never have rumble? Is it written down in an official notice somewhere? Or was it one maybe two individuals saying it and everyone taking it as gospel? Where Sony is concerned, people tend to jump on every little thing they do or say.
I mean did it go like this?:

Microsoft rep says, " I don't think we'll include rumble in the 360 controller as it's not needed". People are unhappy and sad. Time passes and then the microsoft rep says, " Due to people wanting it, i guess we'll put out a rumble controller". People are happy and love microsoft., and want to name their children Bill.
Now the Sony rep says, "I don't think we'll include rumble in the PS3 controller as it's not needed". People are unhappy and sad, and blame sony for everything wrong in the world. Time again passes and the Sony rep says, "Due to people wanting it, i guess we'll put out a rumble controller". People are outraged that Sony said they'd never put one out and that god himself came down and told them so and that they are being decieved. People are now convinced Sony is the Anti-Christ and that the other 2 console makers were divinely sent from heaven sent to counteract the evil of the Sony world.

The above is just joking, but what scares me is that SOMEWHERE in this world is that someone probably believes it....:p
 
Sixthsense said:
And now after several months I ask this again, was it worth it for MS to rush the 360 to the market ?
I would've gladly waited another year, since they didn't get it done right the first time. ( Which is what most of you are doing now; waiting for Falcon)

Beta testing for a console that isn't ready for primetime leaves a bad taste in my mouth
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huh?
 
Sixthsense said:
And now after several months I ask this again, was it worth it for MS to rush the 360 to the market ?
I would've gladly waited another year, since they didn't get it done right the first time. ( Which is what most of you are doing now; waiting for Falcon)

Beta testing for a console that isn't ready for primetime leaves a bad taste in my mouth
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Yes it was worth it considering their current position in the market. They were right launching first is a huge advantage. Now they blew it on reliability due to launching early and being cheap, but M$ Office team can pay for the repair bill. Considering how good of a name the PS2 gave Sony it would have been suicide for M$ to launch at the same time or after sony. PS3 was suppose to be the safe bet. Currently its not doing so hot.
 
JohnleMVP said:
Yes it was worth it considering their current position in the market. They were right launching first is a huge advantage. Now they blew it on reliability due to launching early and being cheap, but M$ Office team can pay for the repair bill. Considering how good of a name the PS2 gave Sony it would have been suicide for M$ to launch at the same time or after sony. PS3 was suppose to be the safe bet. Currently its not doing so hot.
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They haven't "blown it" at all. Last month, AFTER the huge press fiasco on the RROD, they still outsold the ps3 by double. What an epic fail :(
 
Great news! I heard it was going to be called the Dual-Shock 3. I wonder if that's true.
 
deception`` said:
It works both ways my friend. Of course, rumble is a good thing, but it is a feature that should have been included [at no additional charge] since day one. It's one thing to be unable to legally include the feature; it's another to categorically bash said feature only to add it at additional costs for current console owners.

What you want is for people to praise Sony for adding this feature when the reality is that it was mishandled since day one. Similarly, I refuse to give Microsoft a pat on the back for placing a band-aid on an issue that should not exist in the first place. It works both ways.
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So once again you are siting the spin as your sole reason for trashing what is a good thing. You for some reason still don't see that the console was not able to include this feature from day one because of the legal situation. You also for some reason want to believe that they always had the intension of bringing out rumble. Can it be true that the people designing the PS3 share my opinion about Rumble vs. Six-Axis. That being that the Six-Axis is more useful as controls and there for a more fundamental part of a gaming experience than the immersion effect of the Rumble. They then saw that with the lawsuit and the royalties that would be incurred that it wasn't worth it. After launch they have become bombarded by players who not only want but demand Rumble so they went ahead and came to terms with the company who owns the rights to Rumble technology and have now gone out and offered a controller that has what the consumers want. They at the time of their original statements believed that what they were saying was true and that Rumble would have no bearing on the market. Now after months of feed back they find they are incorrect and have made new statements showing that they are willing to listen to the customers who want this controller.


It just seems to me that Sony is moving in the correct direction NOW. In the past they had made many statements that were bad for their image and their sales. They have been trying to move in a positive manner both in action and words. For some reason nothing that is done is ever good enough for some people. I just would liek to see credit for good as well as bad.
 
Technoob said:
They haven't "blown it" at all. Last month, AFTER the huge press fiasco on the RROD, they still outsold the ps3 by double. What an epic fail :(
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I don't think you understood what I was trying to say. I said they blew it as in they made a console that fails which cost them money in warranties. But it was still worth it to launch 1 year a head of the competition because of their current position in the market place, more good games then anyone else and ahead of Sony.
 
Crighton said:
So once again you are siting the spin as your sole reason for trashing what is a good thing. You for some reason still don't see that the console was not able to include this feature from day one because of the legal situation. You also for some reason want to believe that they always had the intension of bringing out rumble. Can it be true that the people designing the PS3 share my opinion about Rumble vs. Six-Axis. That being that the Six-Axis is more useful as controls and there for a more fundamental part of a gaming experience than the immersion effect of the Rumble. They then saw that with the lawsuit and the royalties that would be incurred that it wasn't worth it. After launch they have become bombarded by players who not only want but demand Rumble so they went ahead and came to terms with the company who owns the rights to Rumble technology and have now gone out and offered a controller that has what the consumers want. They at the time of their original statements believed that what they were saying was true and that Rumble would have no bearing on the market. Now after months of feed back they find they are incorrect and have made new statements showing that they are willing to listen to the customers who want this controller.


It just seems to me that Sony is moving in the correct direction NOW. In the past they had made many statements that were bad for their image and their sales. They have been trying to move in a positive manner both in action and words. For some reason nothing that is done is ever good enough for some people. I just would liek to see credit for good as well as bad.
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Amen brother!
 
@ Crighton

I think people must just come to grips with the fact that some people, actually a lot of people once decided on hating something won't ever change their minds no matter what.

Not our job to convince them otherwise, and really its totally in their rights to not like or not want to like something. So long as they don't thread crap about other topics :)
 
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