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Private_Ops

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Check sig for specs of current rig.

I want to make my current rig last ATLEAST another year. So...

I'm going to be buying a copy of Company of Heros off of my cousin and after thinking about it I don't think my current 8500GT will like that to well.

So I got onto newegg and started looking and found this little gem:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102034

I don't foresee my PSU having a problem with it. I figure that and this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118116

And I could last atleast another year since all I play is Dawn of War (Dark Crusade), CS:S. Red Orchestra (WWII game for those who don't know) and I'll be aquiring CoH.

Just to tac on a note, I'd rather make my rig last as long as I can because I'm not exactly ready to move away from my Hard Drive. You can't beat getting a 120GB w/16MB of cache for FREE.

Anyway, give me your thoughts and such :cool:
 
I'm on XP Pro. (Its in my sig)

*I'm not worried about DX10, I'm always a year or two behind stuff anyways, so it's not big deal.
 
Private_Ops said:
Well considering I have an %80 efficiency and that Seasonics can usually handle heavy loads well, I don't see a problem coming up... well that and I don't have much running on it.
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True but I don't exactly know how much power your system draws right now. Hence the reason for me being unsure. But if you don't see a problem coming up, go for it.
 
Danny Bui said:
True but I don't exactly know how much power your system draws right now. Hence the reason for me being unsure. But if you don't see a problem coming up, go for it.
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Anyway I can get a rough estimation without buying a wall meter thing? How much does the 1950 draw? I've never been able to figure that out.
 
enginurd said:
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I typically multiply the resultant wattage rating by 0.75 to figure out how many amps you'll need on the combined +12v rails.
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Ok, I got this:

compwattage.png


And as you say, multiply by .75 and that gives me 167.25.

You say amps... I don't think PSU's can put out that many amps, am I missing something?

I'm not trying to sound like an idiot or noob but, I really haven't delved into the Power Supply World much.


*** That is with the 8500GT added, wouldn't I be better off with the wattage rating WITHOUT the 8500GT? ***
 
Private_Ops said:
You say amps... I don't think PSU's can put out that many amps, am I missing something?
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Yah, but only cuz I missed it... you're missing a zero, lol. Sorry, I meant 0.075. ;) :p

So, you'll need ~16.725A on the +12V rails, so round that up to 17A to keep it simple.
 
Private_Ops said:
Well I have two 17A 12V rails... so?
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Remember that wattage doesn't mean as much these days. What matters most is where those watts are being delivered. For current rigs, it's all about how much amps are on the +12V rail since most PC parts draw their power from there. You determine the amperage on the +12V rails by first finding out what's the total combined or max wattage set aside for the +12V rails alone. So for example, the SeaSonic S12 II SS-330GB has 288W on the +12V rail. Divide that total wattage for the +12V by 12 and you get how much amps the PSU has on the +12V rail. In this case, 288W divided by 12 is 24A. So the SeaSonic S12 II SS-330GB PSU has 24A on the +12V Rail. And that's plenty of power for your current system.
 
Danny Bui said:
Remember that wattage doesn't mean as much these days. What matters most is where those watts are being delivered. For current rigs, it's all about how much amps are on the +12V rail since most PC parts draw their power from there. You determine the amperage on the +12V rails by first finding out what's the total combined or max wattage set aside for the +12V rails alone. So for example, the SeaSonic S12 II SS-330GB has 288W on the +12V rail. Divide that total wattage for the +12V by 12 and you get how much amps the PSU has on the +12V rail. In this case, 288W divided by 12 is 24A. So the SeaSonic S12 II SS-330GB PSU has 24A on the +12V Rail. And that's plenty of power for your current system.
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Ok, but what about with the X1950GT? I still don't know how much it draws, ATI doesn't seem to mention.

** Ok, found this :

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/X1950_GT/13.html

It has a rough idea of wattage draw.
 
Private_Ops said:
Ok, but what about with the X1950GT? I still don't know how much it draws, ATI doesn't seem to mention.
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Yeah thats the problem. ATI nor any of its manufacturers don't release any amperage usage, just recommended wattage, for their cards. A good majority of Nvidia partners do release who much amps the video card and the system will need however.
 
Would I be safe with the 1950 and my current setup or would I run into power issues?


** I'll check back later... need to go to bed :p
 
I usually drop my two cents and leave, but not this time. The OP is spending $145 worth of cash on an X1950GT and a cooler. If he could bring an extra $30, he will buy a card that is TWICE AS FAST. He also doesn't need to worry about power consumption as the the X1950GT and 3850 consume almost the same power.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007247

READ THIS:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxOSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

It shows how the 3850 mops the floor with the 8600GTS. So how does the so-called 8600GTS compare against the X1950GT? Here's a review between 8600GTS and X1950PRO (a 15% OC'd X1950GT) and here's part of the conclusion:: "The 8600 GTS runs circles around the Radeon X1950Pro"
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMyNCwxLCwxMjA=

Here are also some other reviews:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=482
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2217141,00.asp
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_rv670_performance_preview/page4.asp
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=8
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2007/test_ati_radeon_hd_3850_rv670/4/
 
Abu Som3a said:
I usually drop my two cents and leave, but not this time. The OP is spending $145 worth of cash on an X1950GT and a cooler. If he could bring an extra $30, he will buy a card that is TWICE AS FAST. He also doesn't need to worry about power consumption as the the X1950GT and 3850 consume almost the same power.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007247

READ THIS:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxOSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

It shows how the 3850 mops the floor with the 8600GTS. So how does the so-called 8600GTS compare against the X1950GT? Here's a review between 8600GTS and X1950PRO (a 15% OC'd X1950GT) and here's part of the conclusion:: "The 8600 GTS runs circles around the Radeon X1950Pro"
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMyNCwxLCwxMjA=

Here are also some other reviews:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=482
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2217141,00.asp
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_rv670_performance_preview/page4.asp
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=8
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2007/test_ati_radeon_hd_3850_rv670/4/
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I'm not getting to cooler

I have $120 sitting on the shelf (was higher but, i HAD to replace my shit mouse).
So my be intentions would be to save and get this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129101

I may be asking a stupid question but, the 3850 won't bottle neck on my Opty will it?
 
Yes, save and get the 3850. Borrow, if you can. :p Also, look for deals. It was recently $145 at bestbuy, but is now sold out. :eek: :( Nah, it should be fine on the Opty.
 
enginurd said:
Yes, save and get the 3850. Borrow, if you can. :p Also, look for deals. It was recently $145 at bestbuy, but is now sold out. :eek: :( Nah, it should be fine on the Opty.
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lol, the closet BB is about an hour and half drive into WV from here. That and I'd prefer to order from newegg anyway.
 
Private_Ops said:
lol, the closet BB is about an hour and half drive into WV from here. That and I'd prefer to order from newegg anyway.
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FYI, BB delivers. My main point is, search for deals. Newegg doesn't always have the best prices.
 
Private_Ops said:
Oh, didn't know they'd ship stuff out.
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hehe... for the past couple years, I've done all my Christmas shopping online. If there are any major retailers still without an online presence, please, let me know (good job opportunity for a friend of mine, lol).
 
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