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One of the ships impounded for damaging the undersea cables earlier this year has been released after the owner paid a massive fine / restitution.
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Ship That Damaged Under Sea Cable Released
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matrix563
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i thought they proved a ship didn't damage any of the cables? 
It's likely a South Korean ship. (That is where all of the major companies in Korea reside in.) Do you actually believe that the two ships being held by the UAE cut the cables out of malice?
What are you talking about? South Korea is a developed country. Quit watching Miss Saigon.
Back to topic. One ship, huh? I thought 5 cables were damaged. Just this one ship damaged all 5 cables?
Talk to many Koreans before about their country? All of the Korean students here refer to the Korean countries as Korea and North Korea. They tend to get pissed off if you call their country or them South Koreans.
Do you guys all fail at reading? Read the article. Ships were tracked using satellites and other mapping systems and thats how they discovered who did it, it's been proven and fines have already been paid. TWO ships were involved.
Here, I'll make it easy for you guys:
My bad for generalizing. Since the story didn't make any reference to North or South I assumed if the cables were cut with malice it would be a N. Korean ship. But isn't generalizing what we Americans pride our selves in? Ignorance is bliss.
If you RTFA they found 2 ships via satellite imagery that were parked in the places cables were cut. They didn't find the other 3 ships. One is an Iraqi ship....
If you RTFA they found 2 ships via satellite imagery that were parked in the places cables were cut. They didn't find the other 3 ships. One is an Iraqi ship....
Why is the flag that the ship is flying underneath such a big deal to you, anyone can charter these ships.
The other 3 ships most likley cut other carrier cables, I don't think that Reliance Globalcom cares about helping out the compeditors.
Thank you for actually reading the article Ockie! I was really disappointed by all the idiotic responses from people who clearly didn't read the article.
I'm actually rather impressed with how they found these ships. I certainly haven't heard of that method being used.
I'm actually rather impressed with how they found these ships. I certainly haven't heard of that method being used.
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Something isn't "right" about this story. It just does not add up. Korean ship (yes, more than likely out of south Korea), UAE police? I don't know. There is an "alleged" charge that the ship caused the problem and they almost immediately agree to pay $60,000 to get their ship back? And there are only two people aboard charged? Come on.
Cables are laid to specifically prevent this kind of stuff. It is such a huge investment that they just don't get laid so that someone could come along in their boat and sever the cable. It would seem like you would HAVE to be trying to sever the cable, or tap it even, to cause this kind of problem.
Also, I am an American, I live in the south and I have been labeled a southerner. No big whoop! The SOUTH Koreans will just have to live with it. Welcome to America is what I would say to them. Freedom of speech and freedom to listen.
There were five lines cut altogether. This sounds more like sabotage than accident.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Fifth-Undersea-Cable-Cut-91634
Cables are laid to specifically prevent this kind of stuff. It is such a huge investment that they just don't get laid so that someone could come along in their boat and sever the cable. It would seem like you would HAVE to be trying to sever the cable, or tap it even, to cause this kind of problem.
Also, I am an American, I live in the south and I have been labeled a southerner. No big whoop! The SOUTH Koreans will just have to live with it. Welcome to America is what I would say to them. Freedom of speech and freedom to listen.
There were five lines cut altogether. This sounds more like sabotage than accident.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Fifth-Undersea-Cable-Cut-91634
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This article seems to piece it together a little better.
http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10653963
http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10653963
well if it was terrorism, why go after the internet? if anything the internet has only helped spread fear... im surprised the taliban arent embracing the 'net more then they are. its like RIAA, theyre just too stupid to realize how powerful this tool is. if it was them who cut the cables... i really dont knot though, the story seems truthful until the claims of other damaged cables at the same time without even being near eachother....
I'm sure countries like Iran would like to see the cables cut in an effort to curb free speech and information and impose heavy censorship on their citizens. China too.
I doubt if it was terrorism. Like you said, terrorists rely heavily on the internet to communicate. It's much more anonymous than having a phone tied to you.
I doubt if it was terrorism. Like you said, terrorists rely heavily on the internet to communicate. It's much more anonymous than having a phone tied to you.
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The level of journalism in the article is amazing. They fail to tell us how the cables were cut. All 5 cables. So we know who cut them, but we don't know how or why.
Almost immediatley? It's been weeks since the cables were cut, I'd hardly call that immediatley.
Whats your gripe about the UAE? They can't arrest people? They own most of the shipping ports in the world, so I don't get your idea here. If anyone knows ports and ships well, it would be them. UAE frowns on criminals as you can see with their crime index (non existant crime)
So whats the idea of a Korean flagged Vessel, if it was a US flagged ship you'd scream conspiracy!
To minimalize, not fully prevent. 50 cables are lost each year due to ships ancors. What made this story big was the fact that these cables made up Indias and that South Asian regions entire internet.
Have you ever seen how much a ship weighs and how much their anchors weighs? This is the biggest threat to all communications cables.
Yes, because wearing a tin hat is much easier than just accepting what happens. You can win 5 random lotto numbers in a row out of nearly impossible odds, but a ship can't drag an anchor during a storm with very good odds?
Like I said before, the company looked after thier own cables, it's up to each company to find the other suspect boats.
I like that article, must read for everyone.
I was expecting more, but then again, if it's an accident, is it really fair to fine since the captians will face the courts anyways? They will most likley never set foot in a brige again.
Iran didn't lose their internet connectivity during these sea cuts.
Almost every article mentioned this. I think your level of reading is amazing.
Dragging anchors. It is common for ships to drag their anchors, especially in storms. Dragging anchors accounts for nearly 50 cuts a year.
For all the "it doesn't add up" folks out there. . . Nothing ever "adds up" until their favorite boogey-man is blamed.
For some, it will be Bush. . . for some, just the U.S. in general. Others will blame the terrorists. Some will blame aliens or the Illuminati.
Meanwhile, nothing unlikely, random, or just plain bizarre will ever happen in the worldview of those eyes. . . ever. There's always someone up to no good.
Oh, and sometimes they'll actually be correct. But even a broken clock is correct twice a day. And for those who are right. . . there'll be the other 90% of the people out there blindly blaming whoever they dislike the most. . . who will be wrong.
For some, it will be Bush. . . for some, just the U.S. in general. Others will blame the terrorists. Some will blame aliens or the Illuminati.
Meanwhile, nothing unlikely, random, or just plain bizarre will ever happen in the worldview of those eyes. . . ever. There's always someone up to no good.
Oh, and sometimes they'll actually be correct. But even a broken clock is correct twice a day. And for those who are right. . . there'll be the other 90% of the people out there blindly blaming whoever they dislike the most. . . who will be wrong.
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I do not have a "gripe" with anything (your words, not mine). Don't you agree there are a great many holes in this entire story? I was surprised to see that there are as many as 50 incidents of cables being cut a year as well. The more I read, the stranger this whole thing seems. So, I see your point. I got it OK? No need to add or subtract from what I said to complement your statements. Oh, and no need to be argumentative. It is simply my thought or opinion.