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I got $5 that says Uber blames this incident on the driver. I wonder what the excuses will be when the cars are eventually unmanned? Software glitch? BSOD? Sensor malfunction?
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Are we going back to uber hating again?
Who knows, who cares.
How many tech news posts do you see about uber on the front page? Just curious if you've reached your quota or not.I see I struck a nerve. You do know that we just report the news right? It's not like Kyle was behind the wheel of the Uber.
Are we going back to uber hating again?
Who knows, who cares.
FTFYAre we going back to tech hating again?
How many tech news posts do you see about uber on the front page? Just curious if you've reached your quota or not.
How many tech news posts do you see about uber on the front page? Just curious if you've reached your quota or not.
I'm just saying. There seems to be a big focus on uber in particular. For a service i don't use, don't care about, am not invested in it, etc, it's useless info.
I just don't recall it ever being shown in a good light on this site. It's always when they're getting in trouble with the law (not tech related) or something like this which is inconclusive. Just because it has sensors doesn't mean someone was driving it (isn't that what you alluded to Steve?). I've seen hundreds of people running past red lights. Because they're in an uber car with sensors for automation doesn't make it news or tech related or anything of the sort.
And this is a forum right? I'm allowed to disagree, correct?
It's only a legitimate tech fail if it was the automation system that ran a red light.Uber is nothing new, and it is not something this site reviews, it was talked about when it first came out. After that, anytime it makes the news, just like anyone else, it will probably be negative. This site does not write these, it is nothing more than Staff members finding tech news from other sites they think members might want to see, and linking to it here.
The car ran a red light, it's a legitimate tech fail, assuming there was not an actual person controlling it at the time, why you are mad about that I have no idea.
Uber is likely partnered with someone.Uber has a long way to go before it can catch up with Tesla and Google I would imagine. Wonder who will corner this market eventually, gonna be big big bucks.
I wouldn't mind seeing the technical shake down of them diagnosis that problem.
Since there's a driver behind the wheel, and self driving cars even when in self driving mode will return control to the driver under certain conditions, how do you know a driver wasn't in control during that brief period?
If the driver couldn't take control to prevent running the red light, how can they take control to avoid an accident. Therefore there is no valid backup in that car. Driver is going under the bus to avoid that conclusion.Since there's a driver behind the wheel, and self driving cars even when in self driving mode will return control to the driver under certain conditions, how do you know a driver wasn't in control during that brief period?
Given that there's 2 red lights and a pedestrian (and brief flash of brakes as the car nears the pedestrian without stopping), those behaviors are far more typical of a human driver than during self driving mode.
It's only a legitimate tech fail if it was the automation system that ran a red light.
Can you tell that from the video? I can't.
Uber is a taxi company. Very recently in the past 2-3 weeks they've made the news about having driverless cars. Before that, not so much.
Uber is likely partnered with someone.
http://fortune.com/2016/08/18/volvo-uber-partner-on-self-driving-cars/
I bet they have more than one.
Come on. You and i both know it was a snarky comment and not an accusation. I've been critical about the focus on uber before because it's meaningless fluff pieces mostly. I've sarcastically asked who on this site owns taxi medallions before as well.You don't, and that's what makes this a great news item because it is a bit of a mystery and it sparks conversation / debate (and accusations that we have quotas to fill against <insert company>)
That response doesn't address anything I wrote.If the driver couldn't take control to prevent running the red light, how can they take control to avoid an accident. Therefore there is no valid backup in that car. Driver is going under the bus to avoid that conclusion.
Steve already responded anyways, and he's just stirring the pot on this news item.
I would like to specify as generally disinterested in uber but genuinely interested in never seeing any news about them again.Bad Steve! Bad Steve!
I can't help it, this is one of those news items where inevitably someone (not you) proclaims they "don't care" about the news item, posts 95 responses in the thread about the subject they totally don't care about.
I would like to specify as generally disinterested in uber but genuinely interested in never seeing any news about them again.
Maybe put tags on the articles and allow users to filter? I'm trying to be constructive here.
I got $5 that says Uber blames this incident on the driver. I wonder what the excuses will be when the cars are eventually unmanned? Software glitch? BSOD? Sensor malfunction?
Uber uses its own self driving system, not Volvo's. Either way, it was almost certainly a human driver operating the vehicle, at least to people who actually watched the short video.Now we have the volvo system running red lights.
Google is the only one putting out stats, but working their stats, their self driving cars are about 98% as safe as human drivers.
However, the human drivers rack up a lot of accidents through DUI, distracted driving, drowsy driving, driving in snow, ice, heavy rain, on seriously potholed streets, etc. this is something that google's automated cars do not have contributing to their not quite as good driving record.
This tells me they are kind of crap at the actual act of driving compared to a person.
So far we have seen video form tesla where there software cuts EVERY SINGLE FRIKIN corner. Many of them in a manner that is ticketable.
Now we have the volvo system running red lights.
This shit is not ready yet.
I think you're onto something. We need to investigate this [H] + Uber conspiracy.How many tech news posts do you see about uber on the front page? Just curious if you've reached your quota or not.
I'd say the biggest fault in this is the extremely poor light placement. The self driving system probably didn't see the lights.
Uber uses its own self driving system, not Volvo's. Either way, it was almost certainly a human driver operating the vehicle, at least to people who actually watched the short video.
(For people who do not understand how these self-driving cars work, click the link above. It mentions how frequently the system disengages, and how a driver has to take over almost constantly on Uber's vehicles.)
I got $5 that says Uber blames this incident on the driver. I wonder what the excuses will be when the cars are eventually unmanned? Software glitch? BSOD? Sensor malfunction?
Uber self-driving car that ran a red light was apparently ‘human error’.
http://thenextweb.com/cars/2016/12/15/uber-self-driving-car-red-light/
Uber suspended both drivers.
So if the uber self driving software hands control over to the human 2 feet before the intersection going 30mph, that's human error, right?
I see I struck a nerve. You do know that we just report the news right? It's not like Kyle was behind the wheel of the Uber.
This is technology in its infancy. No different than tech devices. Besides maybe the computer knew no-one was near the intersection and decided to get the customer to his destination cheaper that waiting to rack up minutes at a red light. Besides until Robo Cop is developed nothing to worry about.I'm just saying. There seems to be a big focus on uber in particular. For a service i don't use, don't care about, am not invested in it, etc, it's useless info.
I just don't recall it ever being shown in a good light on this site. It's always when they're getting in trouble with the law (not tech related) or something like this which is inconclusive. Just because it has sensors doesn't mean someone was driving it (isn't that what you alluded to Steve?). I've seen hundreds of people running past red lights. Because they're in an uber car with sensors for automation doesn't make it news or tech related or anything of the sort.
And this is a forum right? I'm allowed to disagree, correct?