rumored RTX 3xxx specs

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10/20GB? So there will be two versions?!

Edit: I see, the quadro variant is expected to have 20GB, while peasants get 10GB.
So nothing to see here the 2080ti will still be the most you can get ram wise on the consumer market.
 
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10/20GB? So there will be two versions?!

Edit: I see, the quadro variant is expected to have 20GB, while peasants get 10GB.
So nothing to see here the 2080ti will still be the most you can get ram wise on the consumer market.
If you actually need more than 10GB, gaming cards aren't for you.

If you're gaming, 10GB is already 30% more than any game will use.

Back to the OP, unless the cores are significantly more efficient, it's looking like the Ampere cards will offer just a 15-20% boost over their Turing equivalents. I was hoping for more.
 

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I just hope this drives down 2080ti prices a lot. I’m a few generations behind and want to upgrade.
sadly it probably won't.. i'd expect nvidia to do the same thing they did with the 10 series when the 1080/ti were outselling the 2080/ti and do a forced buyback for the 2080 and up cards to get them off the market as soon as possible when the 3000 series releases.
 

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If you actually need more than 10GB, gaming cards aren't for you.

If you're gaming, 10GB is already 30% more than any game will use.
VRAM usage shot up dramatically quite soon after this gen's console release at least for texture settings. Next gen consoles with more memory are at the end of this year. Whether or not have to run max-1 (or more) for texture settings due to VRAM limitations is an issue or not will be dependent on the person.
 
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VRAM usage shot up dramatically quite soon after this gen's console release at least for texture settings. Next gen consoles with more memory are at the end of this year. Whether or not have to run max-1 (or more) for texture settings due to VRAM limitations is an issue or not will be dependent on the person.
What are some high VRAM games I can try? I figured BF V would be one of the biggest users, but I haven't seen that go above ~6.5GB.
 

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What are some high VRAM games I can try? I figured BF V would be one of the biggest users, but I haven't seen that go above ~6.5GB.
Not sure what you're asking? BF V is a current generation release. 8GB should be enough outside of maybe a few edge usage cases for gaming for this generation. I've heard maybe Farcry 5 with the newest HD texture pack (in terms of a major studio release) can exceed 8GB ?

The issue is with the next GPU releases will border next gen consoles. I'm guessing not many people especially those purchasing the xx80 or even the xx70 plus segments are buying them based on how they will play current games.

At the moment it's still speculative but the signs are pointing to 16GB of memory. The other issue is the talk of how they might leverage SSDs in way that possible cannot be mirrored n the PCs which might require alternatives such as caching more into memory which would require additional VRAM.

Granted we aren't going to know for sure but at least based on last gen there a sudden jump last. Even in 2014 there were multiplatform games able to leverage >4GB, for instance Shadows of Mordor could only be completely stutter free at max texture settings with 6GB cards (not sure what the exact threshold cutoff between 4-6 would be as there were no cards in between). Although to be fair it was only in certain scenarios in the game that it would cause problems with a 4GB card.
 

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What are some high VRAM games I can try? I figured BF V would be one of the biggest users, but I haven't seen that go above ~6.5GB.
With a RTX 2070, 1440p upscaled to 4k:

Conan Exiles 5gb
No Man's Sky 6gb
Shadow Of The Tomb Raider 7gb
 

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Videocardz is reporting confidence in the rumor is low.
https://videocardz.com/newz/rumor-first-nvidia-ampere-geforce-rtx-3080-and-rtx-3070-specs-surface

Before we go any further I must say that the confidence in this rumor is relatively low. It probably wouldn’t have made its way to this site if not for the fact that it was not posted by a random forum member and also because someone else shared a very similar data 3 days ago.
 

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10/20GB? So there will be two versions?!

Edit: I see, the quadro variant is expected to have 20GB, while peasants get 10GB.
So nothing to see here the 2080ti will still be the most you can get ram wise on the consumer market.
Purely speculation on TweakTown's part based on the 320-bit bus.
 

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I see no reason to upgrade until the cost of QHD monitors drop.
What, $299 for a QHD 144hz monitor at 27 inches ain't good enough for you? Heck, there was also a Dell G Sync one with the same specs at the same price, on sale.
 

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Yeah I'm not going to wait around an entire year for these cards to come out maybe that is. I got a new hobby which is let the video cards come to me and dont chase them.
Yeah. I never really got the whole "Wait for thing that doesn't yet exist yet" thing.

Use what you got, until it can't meet your needs, then see what actually exists.
 

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Links back to the VideoCardz article stating confidence in the rumor was low.
Don't know why you would be downgrading from a Ti to a non-Ti. Difference between the 1080 Ti and 2080 (both 16nm) is about the same as it was between the 780 Ti and 980 (both 28nm).
 
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Looks quite possible. I know some people are holding out hopes that these are going to be a generational leap. I really doubt it myself. Nvidia actually has a massive issue right now with their 2000 cards. The chips are massive which leads to pretty high fail rates. They would love to charge even more them if they could get away with it cause the damn things cost way too much to manufacture. They upped the price as much as they could this generation and frankly have really just gotten lucky that AMD wasn't really competitive. I am sure with this generation NV will be looking to drop their production costs. 7nm may help with that... yes 7nm is a newer process and costs more per wafer, but if a massively reduced die size gets them more fully functioning chips, it may still really drive their costs down. Anyway I would expect a 10-20% bump over the 2000s... but NV profit should go up and give them the wiggle room if AMD really does have something cooking with Navi2. If not NV holds the 2000 price bump and ups their profits to = or better then where they where the generation prior.
 

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Yeah I'm not going to wait around an entire year for these cards to come out maybe that is. I got a new hobby which is let the video cards come to me and dont chase them.
Comixbooks, [H] alpha male
 

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Just as a reference:

(GeForce RTX 2070)
  • 8/16GB GDDR6
  • 256-bit memory interface
  • 36 SMs
  • 2304 stream processors

(GeForce RTX 2070 Super)
  • 8GB GDDR6
  • 256-bit memory interface
  • 40 SMs
  • 2560 stream processors

(GeForce RTX 2080)
  • 8GB GDDR6
  • 256-bit memory interface
  • 46 SMs
  • 2944 stream processors

(GeForce RTX 2080 Super)
  • 8GB GDDR6
  • 256-bit memory interface
  • 48 SMs
  • 3072 stream processors

GA104 (GeForce RTX 3070)
  • 8/16GB GDDR6
  • 256-bit memory interface
  • 48 SMs
  • 3072 stream processors

GA103 (GeForce RTX 3080)
  • 10/20GB GDDR6
  • 320-bit memory interface
  • 60 SMs
  • 3480 stream processors

(GeForce RTX 2080 Ti)
  • 11GB GDDR6
  • 352-bit memory interface
  • 68 SMs
  • 4352 stream processors

(GeForce RTX Titan)

  • 24GB GDDR6
  • 384-bit memory interface
  • 72 SMs
  • 4608 stream processors
 

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This is basically the same FP performance as the 2xxx series. They must be focusing on RTX then. Maybe we will see 50-100% RTX performance of the 2xxx series?
 

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I'm expecting that we'll get the performance of a 1080ti at the price of a new 1080ti.
 

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I'm expecting that we'll get the performance of a 1080ti at the price of a new 1080ti.
the performance of a 1080TI for the price of a 1080TI adjusted for inflation and GDDR shortages perhaps..... But prices are going up for anything intended for 1440p and above. I expect the card offerings for 1080p to be very well rounded and competitive though.
 

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nope my quote was correct
Don't need a 3080ti. Most recent AAA games I've played are Doom and Deus Ex Mankind Divided.

Running Doom 2020 on 4k panel at decent FPS could be a challenge, though.
 

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Citation needed.
Don't need citations to point out the obvious. Nvidia had issues out of the gate producing enough high end 2080ti and 2080 chips. Clearly that is a yield issue. Until a few months ago they also divided all their Turing parts into A variants a non A variants... the As where sold to vendors for use in overclock cards, the non-A where not allowed to be factory overclocked. (and the crap low end and OEM cards they went into will not overclock well no doubt they are functional but not FUNCTIONAL ;) lol) Again yield issues.... now granted they ended the A segmentation a couple months ago, so I guess we can assume they (TMSC) may have improved yields. (or Nvidia found a permanent home for the less then chips... or hopefully are planning to draw stock down anyway getting ready for a Turing replacement) The super cards are also more evidence of them improving their fab process. A few less bits fused off by a laser thanks to slightly improved yields.

At this point I'm sure Nvidia found the room to drop a few prices to meet the 2 or 3 AMD cards they have to worry about at the moment. And I'm also sure their margins are a bit better then they where at Turing launch as well. Still no doubt a 754mm die can simply not have a great yield. The number of fully functional chips coming off a wafer at that size can't be great... its just physics. There is going to be a specific number of random defects on any silicon, having dies that size greatly increases the chances that the handful of defect across a wafer are going to effect more chips.
 

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This is basically the same FP performance as the 2xxx series. They must be focusing on RTX then. Maybe we will see 50-100% RTX performance of the 2xxx series?
Don't quote me on this but I seem to recall an article some time ago about NVIDIA saying 30-40% (in RT) over the 2xxx, I might be incorrect but I think if you dig back in the news posts you can find something about it.
 

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When it comes to gaming hardware here's a few things that determine hardware pricing ...

What it cost to manufacture, wholesale markup and ultimately, how much are customers willing to pay for it.

Did I leave anything out?
 

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The die shrink alone should give it about 25% performance increase. So if Ampere architechture gives and additional 20-25% then the 50% rumored performance increase doesn't seem far off.

RTX needs to be orders of magnitude faster (and it already is compared to previous generations) in order to reach the magical full RT@4K/60 that everyone is hoping for.

That's not going to happen in the inmediate future, so we'll most likely see some sort of DLSS 2.0 and some other tricks to get playable performance.
 
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