Armenius
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Indeed. It's 40-50% faster than my Titan X was at 4K resolution. If you have a 4K 120 Hz screen why would you not want to upgrade to a 2080 Ti?
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Indeed. It's 40-50% faster than my Titan X was at 4K resolution. If you have a 4K 120 Hz screen why would you not want to upgrade to a 2080 Ti?
Indeed. It's 40-50% faster than my Titan X was at 4K resolution. If you have a 4K 120 Hz screen why would you not want to upgrade to a 2080 Ti?
What is "soon" to you? We don't even know if they plan on launching the 3080 Ti at the same time. It could be a 3080 launch with the Ti model being delayed by a few months like they did with the 1080 Ti.Because 3080Ti will be out soon? I'm not an idiot to buy a 2080Ti now.
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Indeed. It's 40-50% faster than my Titan X was at 4K resolution. If you have a 4K 120 Hz screen why would you not want to upgrade to a 2080 Ti?
Maybe one should ask themselves if their gaming is really being handicapped in not having a 2080 Ti? As in does the increase FPS will really make a significant difference? Now I can see a 120hz 4K monitor, extra bucks laying around you don't care about etc. in buying a 2080 Ti (wonder why one wouldn't have done that earlier in the cycle unless just got it). If not, wait for next generation for something better, that is if you even need or want it then.
At this time, a 2080 Ti for me would give me not much overall and not worth it. RT and DLSS are some maturing technologies which I can see maybe worth it to use on the next generation. I usually buy a product on the early part of a generation if it is worth it. I would not want to buy a 2080 Ti now and in 6 months it is worth 1/2 the price with faster cards going for $700 but then if I had money to waste then why not. Each just has to decide what is most beneficial to them, hell if you can buy a 2080 Ti now and then a 3080 Ti later as chunk change -> go for it.
RT and DLSS works fine combined today:
RT and DLSS works fine combined today:
Yes in all of what 2 games that can use DLSS 2.0. In everything else DLSS is pretty much useless as it degrades image quality far to much. Your stretching reality to fit a narrative.
Fine Wine is always welcome indeed! Hopefully by then Ampere will be better known and I can reserve mine if worthwhile then. Game is not even out, it could also be a big dud, buggy etc. If a must have . . . to be determined . . . Buying on wishful thinking can let one down.Four already with more on the way. I think Cyberpunk will make a gigantic impact on the market and those people who bought Turing over Navi will reap the dlss 2.0 benefits, especially if they have a 2060 super and above. I can already see AMD and Pascal being slaughtered by Turing when the time comes.
Fine Wine is always welcome indeed! Hopefully by then Ampere will be better known and I can reserve mine if worthwhile then. Game is not even out, it could also be a big dud, buggy etc. If a must have . . . to be determined . . . Buying on wishful thinking can let one down.
Well I hope that it kicks ass, I can easily play it in 2021 or 2022 . To make a buying decision on a future game, just in case, that it will support features well, run well, play well, fun, not buggy is to me wishful thinking. Of course I think everyone wishes for that but that is what it is.I wouldn't count on cyberpunk being a dud, CDPR has too good of a track record and I can guarantee it will make a huge impact on the gaming market with millions of copies sold and massive media coverage. In life there are things that are wishful thinking and others that are a sure bet, cyberpunk being a commercial success (and great game) is a sure bet.
As for Ampere, I'd love for the 3080 ti to come out this year but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Well I hope that it kicks ass, I can easily play it in 2021 or 2022 . To make a buying decision on a future game, just in case, that it will support features well, run well, play well, fun, not buggy is to me wishful thinking. Of course I think everyone wishes for that but that is what it is.
What is "soon" to you? We don't even know if they plan on launching the 3080 Ti at the same time. It could be a 3080 launch with the Ti model being delayed by a few months like they did with the 1080 Ti.
I got a 2080 Ti two weeks ago because I don't think we are seeing a 3080 Ti until the very end of the year. It was also easy because the 2080 Ti will still be the best card on the market when CP 2077 launches.
NVIDIA doesn’t wait for AMD. They couldn’t care less. AMD isn’t a threat in the high end space right now.Nvidia will wait till AMD releases raytacing cards. I think will be end of year considering economy. Intel supposecto be releasing card soon as well.
I think 1080Ti will be fine until 3080Ti is out
I might sell it a bit earlier before 3080Ti is out since the market will probably be flooded with 2xxx and 1xxx cards.
30% has kinda been the norm from generation to generation...Pascal was an outlier FYI, drop the "entitlement"...
Edit:
https://hardforum.com/threads/nvidi...ies-and-20-gb-of-vram.1993377/post-1044508267
Useless comparing those, 2080ti will be 2 years on market, GPU gens used to be 6 months to a year apart.
Useless comparing those, 2080ti will be 2 years on market, GPU gens used to be 6 months to a year apart.
Just want to add this, as it means NVIDIA has no need to rush Ampere:
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That is 15,78% for Turing on Steam
An increase of 2,32% from Feb to Mar
That R&D is still paying off...and since AMD has no card out that threatens NVIDIA they have no pressure.
Might keep that in mind too.
They don't need to rush it, you're right, and AMD usually underperforms with their card so their next big thing will probably be disappointing.
But, next-gen consoles are coming and they will blow PC visuals out of the water.
I think consoles are going to put more pressure on Nvidia than AMD will.
Sure, people will still buy €1500 Nvidia cards, those are people who can afford and it matters not to them. So I don't think a €500 console will put that much pressure on a €1500 2080Ti card.
But consoles WILL put pressure on those €300-600 cards (2060, 2070) which will indirectly affect their more expensive cards.
And you have to keep the gears going, if profits drop by fewer sales, you have to release something people will buy. Nvidia is not in a hurry to release next-gen, no, but there's this part called investors...
They don't need to rush it, you're right, and AMD usually underperforms with their card so their next big thing will probably be disappointing.
But, next-gen consoles are coming and they will blow PC visuals out of the water.
I think consoles are going to put more pressure on Nvidia than AMD will.
Sure, people will still buy €1500 Nvidia cards, those are people who can afford and it matters not to them. So I don't think a €500 console will put that much pressure on a €1500 2080Ti card.
But consoles WILL put pressure on those €300-600 cards (2060, 2070) which will indirectly affect their more expensive cards.
And you have to keep the gears going, if profits drop by fewer sales, you have to release something people will buy. Nvidia is not in a hurry to release next-gen, no, but there's this part called investors...
Stock holders just want 2020 to end. The sooner the better. Realistic investors are sitting tight with no expectations.
Doubtful that the consoles will "blow PC visuals out of the water"...we already know Cyberpunk 2077 will have supperior I.Q. on the PC...and this is even before they launch.
This false argument has been used ever since the first Xbox and has never been true.
Consoles have always had subpar image quality compared to the PC, but yet the "myth" persist...I guess console gamers are blind to FPS and "dynamic resolution" (aka not have the power to run max settings)
Funny thing is that the RTX 3000 series already exists on Quadro cards. So Nvidia is definitely going 4000 series on Geforce or something different altogether.
They don't need to rush it, you're right, and AMD usually underperforms with their card so their next big thing will probably be disappointing.
But, next-gen consoles are coming and they will blow PC visuals out of the water.
I think consoles are going to put more pressure on Nvidia than AMD will.
Sure, people will still buy €1500 Nvidia cards, those are people who can afford and it matters not to them. So I don't think a €500 console will put that much pressure on a €1500 2080Ti card.
But consoles WILL put pressure on those €300-600 cards (2060, 2070) which will indirectly affect their more expensive cards.
And you have to keep the gears going, if profits drop by fewer sales, you have to release something people will buy. Nvidia is not in a hurry to release next-gen, no, but there's this part called investors...
Indeed. It's 40-50% faster than my Titan X was at 4K resolution. If you have a 4K 120 Hz screen why would you not want to upgrade to a 2080 Ti?
Because it's a hugely expensive card at the very tail end of it's production run. Better question is why would you WANT to upgrade to a 2080Ti at this point in it's life cycle?
Because I knew that if I didn't and waited, the new generation wouldn't be out until next year. Me buying now ensures that the release will happen sooner than that (I tend to have that luck), and maybe I won't have to deal with Space Invaders-esque teething on the next gen. Plus, it's at least twice as fast as my 1080, and due to recent circumstances I had some extra dough. I'm comfortable that it'll serve me well for 4 years just like the 1080, moreso if DLSS 2.0 takes off.
Yeah the 3080ti will be as expensive as they can possibly get away with and still sell it. Why wouldn’t it be when the competition is your own current flagship card?
When 2080tis hit 700ish used I would be interested In one. Definitely not worth getting a new 2080ti for over a grand at this point. IMO.