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Drivers will be out in April.
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Just why? Aren't RTX's having enough trouble running it with good performance?
Or is this "just because" Crytech showed that AMD can run it without dedicated hardware?
Just why? Aren't RTX's having enough trouble running it with good performance?
what a joke for 2000 series owners...
Not really considering the performance numbers NV shown in their article. The difference is rather big for heavy RT titles.
No complaints here really, running BFV at 1440p /w RTX on high at 80+ fps on my 2070. Have yet to play Metro Exodus, but I hear the performance is shit with RTX on in it.
I think we're going to see some 'magic' drivers that make it run decent on Pascal...otherwise why would they enable support for it on 10 series cards?
Or they are trying to upsell the RTX cards and show the pathetic performance without the RT Cores.
You can look at the slides here for some numbers.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-to-enable-directx-raytracing-dxr-for-pascal-and-volta
Definitely below playable on the 1080 Ti, but it might work with certain settings.
Particularly on BFV, it's around 45fps at 1440p RT Ultra, so with 1080p or lower settings 60fps should be possible.
Since when has a 1080 Ti even been considered a bad purchase to begin with?Suddenly my 1080ti purchase doesn’t look so bad....
It hasn’t. But it is a last gen card now, and some die yards will act like it suddenly can’t hold its own.Since when has a 1080 Ti even been considered a bad purchase to begin with?
And you haven't seen Nvidia do that trick before with tessellation ?Not really considering the performance numbers NV shown in their article. The difference is rather big for heavy RT titles.
And you haven't seen Nvidia do that trick before with tessellation ?
the Crytek announcement and now this...looks like hardware ray-tracing is dying a quick death...
Not if RTX series cards offer significantly bette raytracing performance than the 10-series cards do... Let's wait and see for the idenpendent benchmarks, but let's also just think for a second: do we think that Nvidia are going to release support for RT on non-RTX cards if it completely obviates the point of RTX cards? Really?So now tensor cores (DLSS) is the big (and maybe only real) differentiation between RTX and GTX?
hahahahaha
Or they are trying to upsell the RTX cards and show the pathetic performance without the RT Cores.
Your answer is right here. They are going to show that 10 series are shit without the RTX cores, hopefully to push more 2000 series cards.
It's not done in software. The drivers just have to forward the API calls to the hardware. DXR works with any video card that has feature level 12_1 support.RTX is garbage on cards with hardware for it. You people think it is going to be worth a fuck on older and slower hardware that is done in software?
Considering they already did the patch 2 times on Battlefield 5 and in each time they lowered what was ray traced. The bar is not set at a certain height just implemented how Nvidia likes it.Considering RT has performance issues even on RTX cards, do you really believe they will do "just fine" on 1080 Ti ?
That is still going to hinder performance a great deal.It's not done in software. The drivers just have to forward the API calls to the hardware. DXR works with any video card that has feature level 12_1 support.
Your answer is right here. They are going to show that 10 series are shit without the RTX cores, hopefully to push more 2000 series cards.
I suspect that no, they aren't going to "cripple" older cards, but it'll simply be the case that older cards will perform considerably worse because they lack the hardware that the RTX cards have.so Nvidia is going to cripple RT performance on older cards
And if they do that but there's still a significant performance increase going from Pascal to RTX, then there's the reason for people to upgrade.it's in Nvidia's best interests to make RT look as good as possible on Pascal
I suspect that no, they aren't going to "cripple" older cards, but it'll simply be the case that older cards will perform considerably worse because they lack the hardware that the RTX cards have.
As you say
And if they do that but there's still a significant performance increase going from Pascal to RTX, then there's the reason for people to upgrade.
Honestly, some people come out with the biggest load of conspiracy theory bullshit at times.
Nvidia want greater adoption of RT, because it helps them to sell RTX cards. If RTX cards outperform their non-RTX counterparts, and RT takes off in a big way, then that drives sales of the RTX parts. That's not a conspiracy theory, that's basic marketing principles.the conspiracy theory is the people that are saying that Nvidia is releasing RTX support on Pascal cards only to sell more Turing cards
Until you compare it to weakling RTX 2060 in RTX games XDSuddenly my 1080ti purchase doesn’t look so bad....
Lots of people who could be tinkering with RTX tech, learning how to develop for it, were locked out of it. Especially people who use laptops (for whatever reason...) cannot just simple replace GPU and getting new laptop just for RTX card would make little economical sense.Just why? Aren't RTX's having enough trouble running it with good performance?
It is not really meant to run RTX games on GTX cards as much as make RTX to look like feature that accelerate stuff, not deccelerate them and to allow people without access to RTX card to develop for it.Considering RT has performance issues even on RTX cards, do you really believe they will do "just fine" on 1080 Ti ?
Wat?what a joke for 2000 series owners...
People who wanted DXR so hard they sold Pascal GPU's already did it.I don't see it that way at all...the people still using Pascal cards never had RT support to begin with and obviously don't want the RTX cards for whatever reason (cost, lack of games etc)...so do you really think that RT performing worse is going to get them to switch to a card they never intended on getting to begin with?...hell no...if anything it provides an incentive for Pascal users to stick with their current cards until the next generation RTX from Nvidia
AMD must respond with DXR implementation and excellent one too otherwise they are screwed... even moreLooking forward to see what AMD can bring to all of this too.
(I have a RTX 2070. I have no RT games, to me it was the best bang for the buck for under $500 new.)
Pascals will cripple themselves because they not only lack RT and tensor cores but also cannot do mixed FPU and INT workloads.I suspect that no, they aren't going to "cripple" older cards, but it'll simply be the case that older cards will perform considerably worse because they lack the hardware that the RTX cards have.