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acheleus said:
Thanks for the link to that review, and it looks like that cooler will be a great choice. Yes it is a bit expensive but it is cheaper than the Megahalem after adding two good fans.
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Definatly! Not only do you get 2 great fans, it also comes with a great PC screwdriver, a thick metal Noctua case badge and some very decent Noctua Thermal Interface Material :cool:
 
Wow, just came from newegg and the price on the ft01 is SHOCKING.

$229.99 with 25% off = 172.49 - 35 MIR = $137 WITH FREE SHIPPING

Seems all SS products are 25% off until 11/22. Damn the FT02 and it's better looks and cooling. Damn the FT01 hard to change filters. That price is just insane, and yet all the little kids will still get 902 cuz they mad kool.
 
NICE FIND!! We really need 4 hdds or at least 3 and an SSD mount in whatever case we buy, and w/ most people seeing such an improvement in GPU cooling by removing the middle bay, that means it only holds 3. Such a great deal though, might just jump on it because those cases are very good looking in person. The only reason it wasn't on our list was the price and my concerns over it only holding 3 hdds w/ the middle bay removed, but for $137+ tax... man. so tempting! With the money saved we could probably use it towards an Intel/Indilinix SSD.

If anyone is at all in doubt about the FT01 because of the hard to change upper fan filter, DON'T BE. It's a very easy mod to make the upper filter slide out smoothly towards the side panel in the FT01. I'm about to head out tonight as we drive off for vacation, but I'll be taking my laptop w/ me to use at the hotel (as usual). There was a guy that posted his fix complete w/ pictures (maybe that was here at the [H]?), and after seeing what he did I can definitely say it was pretty easy. I've since then held an FT01 in my hands (at Microcenter) and looked at the chassis carefully. I'll try to find the links while while on vacation, if not I'll do it when I get back.

The mod is quick w/ a Dremel, but what if you don't have a one? No problem! you can still do the mod easily w/ a nibbler cutting tool which are easy to use, even for first timers. They're also easy to find at your local hardware store, Home Depot, Osh etc. Back in the 80s/90s when I worked in car stereo shops, I used this model made by Klein when working on cars, so it should be fine.
 
Man... me 'n' the missus talked about it on the drive to our hotel, and decided we'd go ahead and buy the FT01 since it's such a great price. As soon as we get to our room and hit the wireless w/ our laptop, we see Newegg pulled the $35 rebate. It was still on our browser window, but when I added to cart, there was no link for a rebate. Tried doing a couple googles and looking around on Newegg/SIlverstone, but so far I got nadda. If anyone can find the rebate form, please post the link.

EDIT- on the plus side, the RV02 is now $159 after $20 MIR.
 
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Found the rebate in the newegg rebate center. Looks like it was supposed to expire on 10/31. Sorry for the excitement.
 
Trigeminal said:
Found the rebate in the newegg rebate center. Looks like it was supposed to expire on 10/31. Sorry for the excitement.
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no way, it's not your fault because it didn't expire, newegg pulled it! I specifically looked at the rebate before we left the house, and it expired on NOVEMBER 30th. Then I checked the promo code and that's for the 22nd. Both my lady and I saw it because I showed it to her b4 we left the house for our drive figuring we'd think about it on our drive and if we decided yes we could do it once we reached San Diego.

Newegg pulled/hid it to keep the price high as possible. As was, the silver windowless version of the FT01 had been $189 after rebate for much of the last month and we were tempted then, but decided the price was too high for the lack of drive bays.

Even if nobody finds the rebate page, thanks anyhow for posting Trigeminal. Just sorry I prolly missed that steal, should bought before we left the house.
 
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If I could get a Silverstone Fortress FT01 for 130-something delivered, I'd do it and get that Intel M2 SSD with the savings, sure.
 
Just noticed newegg dropped the price even further for the RV02 which drops the price to $139 + tax and shipping after MIR. Pretty sweet deal if you don't need the extra hdd bays or want 8 PCIe expansion slots.
 
What's everyone's thoghts on the IO port slider?

Looks kinda dumb to me. Either way you have a gap, I have never worried about dust in my front IO ports before and will likely leave it always open. I would have much prefered the TJ pop up IO ports to this.
 
Slider is fine by me although I wish there was another USB or two and perhaps an eSATA. The pop-up variety is kewl so long as it's not cheap/failure-prone, but perhaps Silverstone was thinking about cost as well as how a slider fits in more w/ the smooth lines of the exterior versus pop-ups. That's one of my complaints about the Lian Li pc-b25f, the frontal IO are uncovered and exposed to dust. Ditto the Lancool pc-k62

I'm curious about that 120mm fan (with the golf ball texture). The one in the RV02 got a lot of complaints for being noticeably louder than the 180cm, but did Silverstone pick a new fan for the FT01? It'd be great if the stock 120 was actually worth keeping. Less money spent modding.

This case is sexy, The black model's interior looks great just like the other pics we've seen. I'd really like to see the silver version's interior, since that's the one our house will most likely buy. I planned out a few (simple) mods for it, but I'm curious to see how the the paint/color scheme looks on the inside since all the pics I have of the silver version's interior are of the prototype.
 
pwrusr said:
cool "golf ball" surface on the exhaust fan.
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That's its purpose because functionally it really doesn't make sense.
In golf ball that surface lessens interaction/friction between airflow and golfball allowing it to "slip through" air more easily and fly longer. Now just how that could help in fan whose purpose is moving air which requires interacting with it?



Rather disappoing that amount of I/O ports for such high end case. With just two USBs you would think that they could have at least thrown in one eSATA and IEEE1394 more.

And going to be cramped now that longest "yardstick" to fit in just got longer.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3679&p=2
 
Why the cooler needed to add 0.66" is beyond me. Seems stupid to add any length to this already massive card.
 
Im going to assume the 5970 wont fit without some major mods.. im not getting one anyway but yeah.
 
The 5970 PCB is 11.5"
When the non-reference coolers are released the card should be reduced down to the length of the PCB i.e. 5870 Vapor-X
The FT02 can fit it without removing the fan grill at that point. Impressive but not for next gen if GPUs get longer.
 
No no no. The 5970 is a dualgpu card.. if you haven't looked it up.. They changed the naming scheme. It is now similar to how Nvidia named the Dual 280 a GTX295. They did away with the x2. So its not like the 4890 was. It's a 5870x2... named 5970.

That being said, next gen doesn't have to be as large as that DUAL GPU 5970.
 
I'm pretty sure he knows that given he knew the pcb dimensions.

Interesting thoughts, I have no plans to get the 5970, so it doesn't effect me, but it is nice to know I could if I wanted. I have my eye on a 5870 vapor-x.
 
Trigeminal said:
What's everyone's thoghts on the IO port slider?

Looks kinda dumb to me. Either way you have a gap, I have never worried about dust in my front IO ports before and will likely leave it always open. I would have much prefered the TJ pop up IO ports to this.
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Yeah it looks a bit dodgy. Why couldn't it have just been a flap/lid? Anyway the case looks great. Too bad only the drive bay covers are brushed aluminum.
 
E.T said:
In golf ball that surface lessens interaction/friction between airflow and golfball allowing it to "slip through" air more easily and fly longer. Now just how that could help in fan whose purpose is moving air which requires interacting with it?
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The purpose of the golf texture is to reduce noise, not increase airflow. Other fan manufacturers are trying similar techniques. I can't recall if Silverstone also did this on the Raven's fans.

SylarPowers said:
It looks nice in those unboxing pics. I'm hoping for a TJ11 soon myself.
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Aye, same here although I'm wondering just how much it'll cost for an upgraded version of the TJ10/07 given the FT02 isn't fully aluminum yet is ~$250. Hopefully SS will show something off at CES in Jan.

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No major mod required. You only need to remove the grill from the middle fan and then it'll fit fine.
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Still baffled that Silverstone didn't solve this by simply increasing the case height by an inch or two. This gaffe is gonna cost them sales because the people buying cards like the 5970 are the exact same people who would spend freely for a $200+ case. Instead Silverstone can only offer them a band-aid fix that shouldn't be necessary to begin with.
 
That's thankfully a better price than FrozenCPU and Sundial.

Hope that the $239.95 price ends up being more in line w/ what other retailers charge. That means when local retailers start stocking them, it'll be easy to hit will call and save $30-40 off shipping which makes this case an absolute win versus much of it's similarly priced competition. I'd definitely pay an extra $30-50 for this case over the CM 840 ATCS unless the plan was to later move on to watercooling.
 
Is there anywhere you can preorder w/o the window?

Going to gid rid of my HAF932, tired of dusting it out every week, the looks are just for me either.
 
Damn I was hoping this would come in closer to $199...


Just out of my range of how much I'd like to spend.
 
I would pick up this case around the ~$180-200 (Shipped) line if the made some changes/ at least released face plates with the same finish as the body.

But at this price point it is way out of its league. What reasons could you have for not going Lian-Li at this price range?
 
OrAnGe said:
No no no. The 5970 is a dualgpu card.. if you haven't looked it up.. They changed the naming scheme. It is now similar to how Nvidia named the Dual 280 a GTX295. They did away with the x2. So its not like the 4890 was. It's a 5870x2... named 5970.

That being said, next gen doesn't have to be as large as that DUAL GPU 5970.
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What I meant was that the 5870 Reference card is 11 inches.
The 5870 Vapor-X is 10.5 inches long. The length of the PCB.

The 5970 Reference card is 12.1 inches long.
When vendors improve the heatsink and use their own covers, the card will be reduced to the length of the PCB,
which is 11.5 inches long. We will no longer have to remove the fan grill when the updated 5970s are released.
 
this case becomes reasonable at $200, compelling at $180, and hot sh*t at $160
 
Case looks good, price seems about right and I like the internal layout (seems to maximize cooling, silence, performance, etc.) but it's just so deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep :p
 
A 24 inch deep case doesn't bother me as much as a 24 inch tall case. Of course, that's just personal preference. You could go with the Corsair 800D and get 24 inches in both dimensions. :p
 
Check this out, looks like the 5970 will not fit at 12.16 inches. Time to file that Batmoblie shroud down a bit!

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3679&p=2

Dam. Look at those pics, it looks like Batman's stretch limo, not the Batmobile!

I like my single Mini "Tank" Batmobile, the 5850. I might crossfire my 5850 later on, these are all wicked fast anyway. And I like my cost/power/noise/size envelope alot more vs the 5970.
 
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Bad News from Anandtech.com. For the 5970, the PCB is 11.5” long, and with the overhang of the cooling shroud, that becomes 12.16” (309mm). This is .06 longer than the FT02 without the honeycomb fan grill, if I'm not mistaken. The interesting part is that they put the performance between the 5850 Crossfired and 5870 Crossfired. My single 5850 works for me. Cheaper now and you can Crossfire later on.
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Once the vendors release the aftermarket coolers with their cards, the 5970 will be shortened to 11.5 inches, just like the 5870 Vapor-X which doesn't have the over-hang.
 
Just some advice for everyone.

Usually Newegg discounts a previous model case before a new model is released i.e. FT01. Some times they release the new product with the same discount or with free shipping. I'll keep a look out for this case on the first day it's released. That maybe the best price you can get for the FT02 for a while.

Newegg loves to increase prices after they sell out a new product.
 
coconutboy said:
That's thankfully a better price than FrozenCPU and Sundial.

Hope that the $239.95 price ends up being more in line w/ what other retailers charge. That means when local retailers start stocking them, it'll be easy to hit will call and save $30-40 off shipping which makes this case an absolute win versus much of it's similarly priced competition. I'd definitely pay an extra $30-50 for this case over the CM 840 ATCS unless the plan was to later move on to watercooling.
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Shipping is $40 from Performance PCS, vs. $20 from Frozen CPU to California so I will go with FrozenCPU or wait for NewEgg.
 
Good catch, I didn't register at both sites to notice the difference. I live in Los Angeles so unless etailers offer a great price or free shipping, I typically drive to a nearby store like Mwave/Microcenter/Frys/etc and pick up components, thus avoiding shipping charges. With the FT02 however, those probably won't be sold locally till late Dec or Jan and I'm tired of waiting for what is looking like it'll be a $300 chassis once tax/shipping/recycling fee is added in. As a much cheaper alternative, if anyone missed the link from earlier, Newegg is selling the Raven 2 for $139 after MIR.

With the post-Xmas/Black Friday sales along w/ CES just around the corner, our household is probably gonna hold out till there's a good price on the FT02 or one of its competitors. In the meantime, I'll just mod one of our other 3 cases to tide us over. Making me even more antsy, I notice the Lian Li pc-b25f is back in stock at most etailers (but not Mwave argh). That case, and its other similarly designed Lian Li cousins (Armorsuit pc-p50 & Lancool pc-k58/60/62) cool very well while offering great features. Bit-tech tested the RV02 and it put up a less than stellar showing, especially compared to the "blowhole" case design used by the Antec 902/Cooler Master Haf/NZXT Tempest/Lian Li pc-p50/etc. The Lian Li pc-k62 is one of the many fugly Antec 900 clones, but it also costs a mere $99 from Mwave making me debate whether it's worth it to drop an extra ~$150-200 for the FT02. The Missus thinks the Antec 900 and its clones are ugly, so we'll probably pass on that but if someone locally would just carry the pc-b25f I'd grab that in a heartbeat. Unfortunately that chassis, too, probably won't be sold locally anytime soon, so we might just pick up a Lian Li pc-a70f but I'm trying hard to resist the temptation and just be patient. *sigh*

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Newegg loves to increase prices after they sell out a new product.
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That's not exactly how it works. Newegg has algorithms that adjust prices depending upon item sales (in addition to other factors like their sales reps who work with OEMs or the amount of shelf/floor space taken up by a particular stock). The more an item sells, the more likely it is to see a price increase. The less popular an item is, the more likely it is to see a price decrease. A prime example of this is the Cooler Master Storm Sniper or the Lian Li/Lancool pc-k62. Both cases dropped in price from their original Newegg listings. The Sniper got as low as $119 w/ free shipping in late Sept and the pc-k62 got to $99 down from $119. As soon as word got around that those were good deals, more sales happened and prices went back up. The pc-k62 is now $129, a $30 increase from a week ago. I've watched the Sniper carefully (I was considering buying this case when its price was low) and almost every week since that all-time-low in late-Sept, it has increased in price till it finally peaked at $169 last week. Now the Sniper is sold out with a Newegg list of $159, but once it comes back in stock it won't drop in price unless sales stagnate.

This is why many of the best deals on Newegg can be found on items very few people are buying. I bought 8GB of RAM recently from newegg after noticing it was getting good early reviews. Apparently I wasn't the only one noticing it was getting good reviews because a week later that same RAM would have cost me an extra $30 despite having been listed on Newegg at the same price for 3 weeks.
 
coconutboy said:
Newegg has algorithms that adjust prices depending upon item sales (in addition to other factors like their sales reps who work with OEMs or the amount of shelf/floor space taken up by a particular stock).
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...and page views.
There's no doubt that NE raises prices based on page hits; no doubt at all.
 
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coconutboy said:
That's not exactly how it works. Newegg has algorithms that adjust prices depending upon item sales (in addition to other factors like their sales reps who work with OEMs or the amount of shelf/floor space taken up by a particular stock). The more an item sells, the more likely it is to see a price increase. The less popular an item is, the more likely it is to see a price decrease. A prime example of this is the Cooler Master Storm Sniper or the Lian Li/Lancool pc-k62. Both cases dropped in price from their original Newegg listings. The Sniper got as low as $119 w/ free shipping in late Sept and the pc-k62 got to $99 down from $119. As soon as word got around that those were good deals, more sales happened and prices went back up. The pc-k62 is now $129, a $30 increase from a week ago. I've watched the Sniper carefully (I was considering buying this case when its price was low) and almost every week since that all-time-low in late-Sept, it has increased in price till it finally peaked at $169 last week. Now the Sniper is sold out with a Newegg list of $159, but once it comes back in stock it won't drop in price unless sales stagnate.

This is why many of the best deals on Newegg can be found on items very few people are buying. I bought 8GB of RAM recently from newegg after noticing it was getting good early reviews. Apparently I wasn't the only one noticing it was getting good reviews because a week later that same RAM would have cost me an extra $30 despite having been listed on Newegg at the same price for 3 weeks.
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I bought the Sniper @ $119. But if you noticed the Silver interior version was discontinued and replaced with the Black version during the same sale. That's how I got the Black Version the first day it was released on Newegg. Also the HAF 932 was lowered down to $119 just before the HAF 922 was released. The Raven RV01 was lowered down to $199 w/ $30 rebate just before the Raven 2 was released. What ever you want to call how Newegg price their products, it follows buyers patterns vs supply and demand and other stuff. Knowing that a new product is being released that is similar to the previous version, they run the risk of having excess stock of the old product. So, Newegg places the item on sale. That happens everywhere in the retail business i.e. cars. I knew the Black version was going to be released during the sale, others didn't know and purchased the silver one two days before it was discontinued.

The best time IMO to buy an item is when a new version is soon to be released.
 
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