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Petey1013 said:
Someone pointed out and took a pic on the OCN forums that the FT02/RV02s that come with the AP181s actually say Air Penetrator on the box.

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Credit to the original poster dedmonwakin.

Good to know for those buying local.
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I just checked my box and it does say air pentrator on them! Good eye on the part of the original poster!
 
I got my black FT02 without a window from Amazon over the weekend and it did not have the AP181's installed. I was thinking about refusing the shipment and waiting some more to get one with AP181's, but I was so excited to have it at my house and finally being able to get rid of my 5 year old Centurion 534 that I kept it. Even without the AP181's, this thing is a beast at cooling while staying very quiet! My Phenom II x3 720 @ 3.4GHz went from about 52C down to about 43C, which is awesome, but the real benefit came with my GTX 470. When playing Civ 5 in my old case, my fan would kick up around 66%, which was very noisy. Playing Civ 5 this weekend, I could only barely hear my 470 fan kicking up. The highest I saw it was 52%, which was way quieter than my old case. This was with all 3 fans set at low speed. I kept them at low because I have my PC hooked up to my HDTV, so it's sitting about 8 feet away from me and at that distance, I can not hear the FT02 at all with the fans set to low, which is a huge improvement over my old Centurion 534.

I might buy 3 AP181's from directron, since I can get them for about $64 shipped, but only if I can get rid of the FN181's for a decent amount of money to help cover the cost of the AP181's. For people who have upgraded their fans, how did you use or get rid of your old ones? Also for people who have bought the fans from directron, do they come with the switch to switch the fans from low to high?
 
mumstead said:
The only real "mod" I did was painting my DVD drive. The drive was more of a charcoal gray than black so I picked up some Krylon Fusion, removed the faceplate, taped off the LED, and sprayed it. Now it matches almost exactly.
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NICE!! If I may ask, which Krylon Fusion black did you use on the drive? Gloss, Flat, or Satin?

I have a Corsair AX850, which as I think has been pointed out, doesn't line up exactly with the rear vent. However, it also won't sit flush against the back because of the fan grill. I'm assuming the AX850's fan is an intake, so turning it around so the fan faces into the case isn't the best option, so does anyone think there would be an issue removing the fan grill so that it fits more flush with the case's backside?
 
If anyone wants to buy a cheap FT02, here you go ;) link
Can't fit my SR-2 in there so my baby must go :(
 
For people who have upgraded their fans, how did you use or get rid of your old ones? Also for people who have bought the fans from directron, do they come with the switch to switch the fans from low to high?
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Nobody's buying the old FN-181 fans. All AP181 fans come with the speed controller switch.
 
What if someone wanted to upgrade to the AP181s but not all at once, would the best one to do be the middle one, followed by the front one, and lastly the back one? The ONLY reason I'd find to want to upgrade at this point (aside from possible cooling advantages) is that I can detect a slight vibration from the attached "grills" on top of the FN181 fans. I'm assuming this wouldn't be present in the AP181s since the "grill" is built into the fan chasis and isn't attached with screws as a separate part.
 
What if someone wanted to upgrade to the AP181s but not all at once, would the best one to do be the middle one, followed by the front one, and lastly the back one? The ONLY reason I'd find to want to upgrade at this point (aside from possible cooling advantages) is that I can detect a slight vibration from the attached "grills" on top of the FN181 fans. I'm assuming this wouldn't be present in the AP181s since the "grill" is built into the fan chasis and isn't attached with screws as a separate part.
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It'd be better to go middle, rear, and then front. The HDD's get plenty of air as is with the stock FN-181.
 
I'm debating between this case and the Corsair 600T. My current PSU is a Corsair 1000HX and I'm not sure if the FT02 has enough room to comfortably accommodate it. My current case is a Lian Li V1000 and it fits with a hard drive cage removed but with all of the cables I need installed there's very little room to maneuver and manage cables which is why I want to upgrade.
 
Evil_Furby said:
I'm debating between this case and the Corsair 600T. My current PSU is a Corsair 1000HX and I'm not sure if the FT02 has enough room to comfortably accommodate it. My current case is a Lian Li V1000 and it fits with a hard drive cage removed but with all of the cables I need installed there's very little room to maneuver and manage cables which is why I want to upgrade.
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You should have plenty of room. Look at my pictures on the previous page of this thread. I have the Silverstone ST1500 power supply in mine which is as long if not longer than the 1000HX and I have plenty of room. This case actually seems to be designed for large PSUs judging by the location of the fan vent in the back of the case.
 
mumstead said:
You should have plenty of room. Look at my pictures on the previous page of this thread. I have the Silverstone ST1500 power supply in mine which is as long if not longer than the 1000HX and I have plenty of room. This case actually seems to be designed for large PSUs judging by the location of the fan vent in the back of the case.
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What mobo are you using mumstead?
 
MissJ84 said:
Yes :)
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FaRKle0079 said:
Nobody's buying the old FN-181 fans. All AP181 fans come with the speed controller switch.
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Thanks for the info! I figured it would be hard to find a buyer for my old fans so I probably won't upgrade all the fans unless I find a really great price somewhere. I think I might upgrade just one fan and put it under the videocard to see if I can make my 470 even quieter, then mod my old case to put the FN181 on the side panel to use as a giant intake.
 
I bought AP181 fans to replace the fans in my FT-02, I got them installed and they were much louder than the FN-181s, even on low. They were making a distinct whooshing, rumbling sound that is very annoying.

I reinstalled the FN-181s that came with the FT-02, but this time I removed the grills they come with, and now I can barely hear them. I'm actually getting lower temps now with the grills removed vs the AP181s.

Should I just return the AP181s I ordered?
 
Would you say the increased noise was from the fan itself or the sound of the air?

On the original fans, again were you getting increased noise from the grills vibrating or from the sound of air passing through the grills? I can sometimes pick up a vibration in the grill on my fans, so I'm wondering if I should put small rubber grommets between the grill and the fan or something. That will add height, but I think my clearance should be ok (though, honestly, I haven't put the GTX460 in the case to see, and I'm too lazy at the moment to look up measurements :D )
 
With the FN181s with the grills on, it was a vibrating humming sound, with the AP181s it was a louder vibrating sound, extremely annoying.

I don't see a reason to leave the grills on the FN181s, my GTX 480 load temps went from 90C to 81C after I removed the grills.

What are your thoughts? I'm thinking just return the AP181s because of the vibration they cause.
 
Having no real-life experience with the new fans I can't think of a compelling reason to keep them since it seems to be a worse experience for you over the older fans. Particularly if they're not giving you a temperature advantage over the older fans (or maybe the older fans with the grilles off are actually better than the AP181s cooling), I can't see why you would keep the newer fans.

Can't say I'm sad that I got a case with the older fans now, after reading your observations though. ;)
 
My AP181's hum a bit louder than the stock fans as well, not sure that they helped my particular setup temp wise as I am only running one video card, I believe Farkle had found it helped his temps while running SLI. I need to do some more testing, although now that I have the AP's installed I do not feel up to swapping them back out for the FN's. I did notice a bit more air coming out the top of the case though which is probably a good thing.
 
My AP181's hum a bit louder than the stock fans as well, not sure that they helped my particular setup temp wise as I am only running one video card, I believe Farkle had found it helped his temps while running SLI. I need to do some more testing, although now that I have the AP's installed I do not feel up to swapping them back out for the FN's. I did notice a bit more air coming out the top of the case though which is probably a good thing.
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Switching to AP181 fans helped my single 5870 a fair amount. If you've got a fan controller I found that the max speed I could turn the AP181 to was 1000rpm before I could hear it.
 
In the midst of putting together my build with this - hopefully finishing tomorrow, and a few things are somewhat annoying me about the case, build-wise anyway.

Given the price point, you'd think more care could be given to the three intake fan's wiring when they are installed. Wires from different fans intertwine in such a way that I think the only way to untangle them would be de-solder them from the switches up top and straighten it all out. It makes dealing with them sort of a chore. Sure, they're hidden in the back, but for the price you'd think more attention would be paid to at least getting these installed in a neat fashion.

Also, the two furthest rear harddrive caddies are the only ones that are completely secured in their slots when put in. The rest that are forward of the back two can be pushed out from the back side of the caddy without having to lift up on the front latch mechanism. It does require a slight amount of force, so I doubt they'd just come loose while moving the case around, but it's still annoying. Upon inspection the bottom of the harddrive cage appears to be bent and that's what is causing the issue - another thing that shouldn't make it through QA at this price, imo. I'm only using two drives in the system though. I'm spacing them out, so my SSD does end up in one of the looser slots, but I don't think it should be too much of an issue. If I were planning to fill the cage up with HDDs though, particularly if I were using the hot-swap brackets (I'm not) I'd be peeved.
 
Wires from different fans intertwine in such a way that I think the only way to untangle them would be de-solder them from the switches up top and straighten it all out.
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You can untagle them easier by just unscrewing the switches from the case and separating them that way.

Also, the two furthest rear harddrive caddies are the only ones that are completely secured in their slots when put in. The rest that are forward of the back two can be pushed out from the back side of the caddy without having to lift up on the front latch mechanism. It does require a slight amount of force, so I doubt they'd just come loose while moving the case around, but it's still annoying. Upon inspection the bottom of the harddrive cage appears to be bent and that's what is causing the issue - another thing that shouldn't make it through QA at this price, imo. I'm only using two drives in the system though. I'm spacing them out, so my SSD does end up in one of the looser slots, but I don't think it should be too much of an issue. If I were planning to fill the cage up with HDDs though, particularly if I were using the hot-swap brackets (I'm not) I'd be peeved.
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All five of mine work just fine. RMA it to Silverstone.
 
There's plenty of talk in this topic about the HDD caddies having issues, and since they're not going to fall out with normal movement of the case I can live with it. Besides, once it's sitting in its spot it's likely not to move again until I upgrade something in it. At this point the thought of taking everything out of the case and starting over again is not something I relish!! :p
 
Have been looking at this case for a while now. Im currently using the Antec 900 and wondering if ill get much better cooling with the silverstone FT02B? Anyone have this case and using the Corsair H70?
 
EquaLiZr said:
Have been looking at this case for a while now. Im currently using the Antec 900 and wondering if ill get much better cooling with the silverstone FT02B? Anyone have this case and using the Corsair H70?
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My buddy is using the H70 in his. Absolutely loves it, and it was pretty easy to put in, may need an extra set of hands though.
 
FYI: In an attempt to find a better solution than the standard Silverstone FT02 HD Caddy design, used in most of their nicer cases, which some don't mind, some hate, but apparently no one truly loves (from what posts I have read - certainly no one ever said this was the best design possible), I looked to the Silverstone CFP53 HD Cage once again, the same one found in the Raven 2, so that I could use it in the FT02. I posted as such before, but now I fully looked into this. But alas, I found out that the CFP53 does fit the FT02 internally, but does not fit with the FT02's Bay Covers on! This is due to the covers being a bit longer, and Silverstone seemed surprised at this.

But what I really want is better HD Caddies. I hope a better solution comes from Silverstone by the time of the TJ11's release, even if it's a separate adapter.
 
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Well, I ordered up the FT02 again, black with window this time. I ordered from SundialMicro, who orders directly from Silverstone, shipped to me, to insure I will receive the new stock with AP fans. Silverstone confirmed all the new stock they personally have for the black with window and the black without window are using AP fans. Apparently, no one likes silver, and that stock is old. Newegg and Amazon was an option, sources say they shipped new stock recently, but I like that Sundial/Silverstone can confirm it a bit more over the phone like they did. The chance still remains that the bigger places like Amazon and Newegg may in fact have mixed stock. Just like the 920 CO or 920 DO situation back in the day. Some got one version, some got another.

We shall put this lemon theory to the test and I will just live with it if it's not perfect. The FT02 is close enough and I'm weary of trying cases. The X900 was defiantly not were I wanted to stop, it was way too hard to wire. The FT02 might not be as easy to wire as my old Sniper Black was, but it's got to be better than that Lian Li. Plus I kinda miss the FT02 a bit, warts and all. The things I miss the most are the extra nice power button, the exterior paint texture, the unibody, and the rotated mobo (I noted my GPU was sagging a bit now). I may have to place the FT02 sideways due to it's length, but I now think it's worth even that. The search for perfection is a futile one, perhaps I should have never looked for it. The TJ11 might still be in my future, but I'm very much not in a rush for that, I will wait for some crazy limited edition or some crazy discount first.

Improvements in my "FT02 Mk II" I am looking for are that I really hope the black paint is a bit more durable than the red was, that my filters don't get stuck, and my HD racks don't slide out. Time to break out the velcro idea if they do. I can live with the rest. Oh yea, a hardware kit would be great! My last one was missing, but Silverstone took care of me. Another thing about the FT02 with red interior that I sent back, the seems didn't line up, leaving slivers of red showing were it shouldn't, which looked a tad stupid, but of course black on black eliminated that.
 
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The FT02 might not be as easy to wire
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The back plate behind the mobo has a dent a few inches up. There is the best place to fix the 24 pin and other thick cables. I see some put the wiring for graphic cards in the back as well, but I find it easier to run them in the front (between front panel and bottom fans).

I really fell in love with the FT02 after building my gaming rig, so I just finished a second one as my work computer. Both red interior ;)
 
han022 said:
The back plate behind the mobo has a dent a few inches up. There is the best place to fix the 24 pin and other thick cables. I see some put the wiring for graphic cards in the back as well, but I find it easier to run them in the front (between front panel and bottom fans).

I really fell in love with the FT02 after building my gaming rig, so I just finished a second one as my work computer. Both red interior ;)
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As far as Google shopping is concerned, the red ones have been erased from existence! Great Scott!

Now an all Superman red one, inside and out... that would be cool.
 
Well, my case came in, but not AP181s. This was from NC1X, but it's canada, and I figured It'd be a gamble anyway. Got it for 200 with free shipping though, and came in 24hrs, so I can't complain.
 
Petey1013 said:
Well, my case came in, but not AP181s. This was from NC1X, but it's canada, and I figured It'd be a gamble anyway. Got it for 200 with free shipping though, and came in 24hrs, so I can't complain.
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$200 is a good price and 24hr shipping is sweet.. amazon screwed me when I ordered mine months ago, took them two or three days to print the label then FedEx tried delivering it to my work on a Saturday (not open) and then since that driver worked Sat he had Monday off :mad: Basically took around eight days to get my case!

On a happier note, I felt the stock fans did just fine when I had them. You should really enjoy the FT02 :)
 
FaRKle0079 said:
Yeah I'm curious how well they'd do on a heatsink as well since they're supposed to have a good static pressure.

I run my Scythe GT1850s at 1570rpm for complete silence. I just purchased some San Ace H1011s from Jshay, so I'm going to see how much of an improvement I can get with those at the same noise level.
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Farkle, can you tell me if I made a bone-head mistake or if my Lamptron FC6 is defective please. :confused:

A few weeks back I purchased some items including two Gentle Typhoon 1850's and the FC6. I have one fan connected to bank 1 and the other on bank 3. Neither bank on max turn will read 1850rpm.

So I am thinking perhaps the FC6 does not have enough juice to hit 1850 with the GT's.. or it might be defective for the following reason. Bank 1 on max will hit 1650rpm while bank 3 on max only hits 1420rpm. I have not had time to try banks 2 and 4 out to see their rpm results, and even if they came out better than banks 1/3, I would consider the unit faulty as 1/3 are inconsistent.

Now, I bought the FC6 vs. the FC5 that you run thinking it would push the two fans fine and save some money doing it (also I believe they were still going through the FC5V2 phase-in). The FC6 claims "up to 20w per channel" while the FC5 claims "up to 30w per channel". I did some searching and have not seen what wattage the GT1850's pull.. so I am at a loss mentally here :confused:

To your knowledge should the FC6 with 20w/chan push these GT1850's to 1850rpm, or am I a bone-head and purchased the incorrect unit, indeed needing 30w/chan?
 
Damn Dirty Ape said:
So the lian li was not a WIN for you ? lol
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Nope! LoL. As I've said, when it comes to pc cases, I go back and forth a lot. It's like I fight myself til I'm happy. It's my way...

The ft02 is the only case I've reordered, this time from a non refundable source to insure Ap181 fans, so that's saying something huh.
 
SylarPowers said:
Nope! LoL. As I've said, when it comes to pc cases, I go back and forth a lot. It's like I fight myself til I'm happy. It's my way...

The ft02 is the only case I've reordered, this time from a non refundable source to insure Ap181 fans, so that's saying something huh.
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suppose so.. might sell my red one though.. ebay, here who knows. I like changing around too.
 
Damn Dirty Ape said:
suppose so.. might sell my red one though.. ebay, here who knows. I like changing around too.
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At this point, I think only the TJ11 or a variant of the RV03 - be it a FT04 or TJ12 say, using RV03 internals but with unibody and elegant lines - has the ability to make me jump my FT02 ship. The TJ11 is possible overkill in size for me, so I hope the eventual FT04/TJ12 is a bit smaller, but not FT03 small.

I would want a unibody TJ12 based on the RV03 internals the most. It seems that the Raven series is the testbed for new ideas, and the successful designs are filtered upwards, as it did with the FT02 and TJ11, which all used rotated mobos, and the similarity of the RV02 and FT02 is clear. So I'm willing to bet we will see a more high end RV03 like case sooner or later.
 
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Farkle, can you tell me if I made a bone-head mistake or if my Lamptron FC6 is defective please.

A few weeks back I purchased some items including two Gentle Typhoon 1850's and the FC6. I have one fan connected to bank 1 and the other on bank 3. Neither bank on max turn will read 1850rpm.

So I am thinking perhaps the FC6 does not have enough juice to hit 1850 with the GT's.. or it might be defective for the following reason. Bank 1 on max will hit 1650rpm while bank 3 on max only hits 1420rpm. I have not had time to try banks 2 and 4 out to see their rpm results, and even if they came out better than banks 1/3, I would consider the unit faulty as 1/3 are inconsistent.

Now, I bought the FC6 vs. the FC5 that you run thinking it would push the two fans fine and save some money doing it (also I believe they were still going through the FC5V2 phase-in). The FC6 claims "up to 20w per channel" while the FC5 claims "up to 30w per channel". I did some searching and have not seen what wattage the GT1850's pull.. so I am at a loss mentally here

To your knowledge should the FC6 with 20w/chan push these GT1850's to 1850rpm, or am I a bone-head and purchased the incorrect unit, indeed needing 30w/chan?
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That's a strange problem. Do both fans have the exact same rpm values when turned to full voltage on those channels? I've had GT fans in the past that were up to 100rpm below their rated value. It's definitely not a power draw problem, as a GT fan uses about 1W (.083A * 12V). I would test on the other channels and see what happens. If the fans only exhibit this behavior on channels 1 and 3 then your controller is probably bad. If it does it on all channels I'd connect it to the motherboard port and then go into your BIOS to see what rpm the BIOS says. If it's not spinning at rated speed then you just have bad fans. You could try oiling them.
 
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