Recommendations for a 24 inch screen

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Right I have a Samsung 216BW screen and want to upgrade to a 24 inch mostly because of the higher resolution for my Blu-Ray movies.

Honestly I don't know much about panel types, neither haven't seen other than TNs.
I use my monitor mostly to watch HD movies and play games once in a while.

I have a budget of around $350. Was looking at the Dell e248wfp for a bit.

It would be nice for dual DVI or one DVI and HDMI as I will be connecting my PS3 to it.

Thanks
 
Gonna be tough getting a 24" LCD that plays nice with the PS3 for $350. There are only 3 or 4 24" monitors at that price. The Gateway FHD2400 is great for gaming and HD movies and has both DVI and HDMI, but it's normally $550 plus tax at Best Buy. However, I could sell you mine (only a couple months old) for $450 shipped. PM me if interested.
 
My budget isnt that high :/ The most I can do is 400 shipped., any more recommendations guys for any screen?
 
Depending where you are. The Benq G2400W has gotten fairly decent reviews.
It has good low black level and high contrast.
Very good out of the box colors (better than monitors costing double).
No input lag.
Has three inputs VGA/DVI/HDMI

It can be found under $350. It would be my choice for low end 24"
($389 at newegg, but you should be able to do better)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014158
($330 in Canada?)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016078&cid=MT.863

Thread:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1237718&highlight=benq&page=10
 
Kr1z said:
want to upgrade to a 24 inch mostly because of the higher resolution for my Blu-Ray movies.

I have a budget of around $350.
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The cheapest non-TN 24" seems to be Westinghouse L2410NM
Remember, the cheapest products usually have HDMI only. It's bad as HDMI is likely to overscan and crop Blu-ray movies. Look for a single DVI at least.

TN favorites:
BenQ G2400W
Gateway 2400

It's hard to find anything deserving Blu-ray for around $350.
Try big mixed/grocery stores for bargain prices.

Again remember sayings:
"I am too poor to buy cheap things"
"misers pay twice"

I would rather take evening part-time for a couple of months and buy what I want than buy 24" Costco or 24" Sam'sClub and have them in front of me for a couple of years.

The best inexpensive monitor for Blu-ray is the Dell 2408. Current offer is $599. Find a coupon.
 
I am liking that Westinghouse L2410NM, but it is HDMI only and 8ms :/

What would you guys say about the E248WFP? Just cursious
 
that BenQ looks nice.

seems like the TN panel to get.
I really have not read any bad reviews about it.
The Gateway FHD2400 however seems to have a lot of backlight bleeding. many people complain
 
The BenQ G2400W is looking good right now but the brightness, 250 cd/m2 seems a little low?
 
albovin said:
It's bad as HDMI is likely to overscan and crop Blu-ray movies.
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Anyone have a link on this? I was under the impression that HDMI was essentially DVI plus audio, which is why you can find DVI to HDMI cables, etc.
 
Pay no attention to stupid spec wars. 250 cd/m2 max, is likely ideal unless you want to use it outdoors on sunny days, or light your computer room with 1000watts of lighting. Brightness is relative to your ambient lighting.

That is still twice as bright as your typical CRT. If you think CRTs are so dark they are unusable, then maybe this is too low for you.

More is not better, as the 500cd/m2 displays typically don't go below 200cd/m2. I bought one of these (Dell 2405). It was so bright it hurt my eyes with the brightness set to ZERO. I had to sell it. I work with computers and probably average over 10hrs a day looking at them for the last 20 years. This was the first time any display hurt my eyes.

To me a display that does 100-250 cd/m2 is much more desirable, than one that does 200-500cd/m2.

Google "LCD too bright" and "LCD too dim" or not bright enough.
hundreds/thousands of people complaining about too bright LCDs, I only see people with defective LCDs complaining about them being too dim.

YMMV.
 
Actually the Westinghouse L2410NM has 0% overscan on all connectors by default, regardless of video or PC graphics signal. The only difference is using video over HDMI enables a mode in the OSD (under Aspect Ratio control) called "zoom" which displays approximately 3% overscan.

The G2400W has the same control of overscan on/off popularized by the later BenQ products for HDMI, but the overscan on this monitor (with overscan on) is only around 1%. The only issue with this monitor is that 1920x1080 over VGA stretches to 16:10 and "greys" out the aspect ratio control. I'm assuming this is a bug. Obviously with overscan set to "off" there is no overscan over HDMI.

I have extensively tested this due to my obsession from last year with monitors that do not overscan video sources.

Regards,

10e

albovin said:
The cheapest non-TN 24" seems to be Westinghouse L2410NM
Remember, the cheapest products usually have HDMI only. It's bad as HDMI is likely to overscan and crop Blu-ray movies. Look for a single DVI at least.

TN favorites:
BenQ G2400W
Gateway 2400

It's hard to find anything deserving Blu-ray for around $350.
Try big mixed/grocery stores for bargain prices.

Again remember sayings:
"I am too poor to buy cheap things"
"misers pay twice"

I would rather take evening part-time for a couple of months and buy what I want than buy 24" Costco or 24" Sam'sClub and have them in front of me for a couple of years.

The best inexpensive monitor for Blu-ray is the Dell 2408. Current offer is $599. Find a coupon.
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I haven't found the brightness to be an issue whatsoever in the last month and a half that I have had the G2400W. It is bright enough in general without being overly so. I use it between 50 and 65 brightness depending on day or night, and I have a window behind my chair. It is not nearly as bright as the MVA panels I have, but I run them at around 30 brightness to get a pleasing viewing experience due to their almost offensive brightness levels.

In addition the text on the G2400W is nice and sharp so endless web page reading does not induce eye strain.

Regards,

10e


Kr1z said:
The BenQ G2400W is looking good right now but the brightness, 250 cd/m2 seems a little low?
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I would like a 2408 but I am worried I won't see a huge difference to justify the whole price and I been reading in the 2408 thread about input lag and thats a big problem for me
 
10e said:
In addition the text on the G2400W is nice and sharp so endless web page reading does not induce eye strain.

Regards,

10e
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What's the DPI for your G2400W?

Oh.... and completely irrelavent as well as nosey but how many monitors do you have?
 
Just to let you know... the Westy L2410NM has considerable input lag. I had one and loved it... until I tried to game.
 
So TNs would be the best for gaming due to less ghosting and input lag?
I don't have problems with viewing angles as I set my screen straight to were I sit and do not any graphics design or anything.

I would really like to hear anyones thoughts on the E248wfp :/
 
Some *VA screens and some IPS screens are good for gaming too, but they cost a lot more. Considering that you only sit directly in front of your screen, you don't do any color critical work, and you're already using a TN and like it... you should probably go with a TN.
 
I got a Soyo 24" before they went TN (rumored) and I like it just fine. Got a fire sale at $279 :)
 
:)

Four in total

Dell 2005FPW (purchased in December 2005)
BenQ FP241VW
BenQ G2400W
Westinghouse L2410NM

The BenQ's and the Westy were purchased this year.

Still trying to figure out which two should stay and which should go. Call me crazy.

My wife is ready to kill me. ;)

Dot pitch on any 24" at 1920x1200 is .258 I believe, and the G2400W is no different. I use it at regular 96 dpi windows and sit about 30" away from it. Perfectly fine.

Regards,

10e



skippnr said:
What's the DPI for your G2400W?

Oh.... and completely irrelavent as well as nosey but how many monitors do you have?
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Im in the same boat. I will do occasional gaming (mostly online flash games...maybe cod4, ut3) and a lot of movie/hdtv watching. Its between the westy and benq for me at this point but I think I'm leaning toward the westy. Is this a good choice for me?
 
I find the lag on my Westy a non-issue. Granted it was strange the first time I switched to a LCD from CRT while I was playing Quake 4, but after a couple of days I didn't notice the difference anymore. For the money, especially if you local Sam's Club stocks it ($299), you will be hard pressed to find a better deal. The only other possible choice if your lucky is a LG L246 on clearance at BB or CC.
 
After some extensive searching and reading I think I've changed my mind and will go for the BenQ G2400W. There are just too many good reviews out there to let this one slip away.

Anyone else considering this lcd or any other would do well to check out Retrevo.com. The site has links to just about every review and etailer known to man.
 
What about the HP W2408? Saw it the other day and was very impressed. I'm also partial towards glossy screens. Any opinions?
 
How is the backlight on the BenQ G2400W and does it have 1:1 mapping?
 
TN panels don't need heavy overdrive like PVA/MVA panels do, and thus they usually have far less input lag. On the subject of ghosting, that all depends on the monitor, as there are some TNs with ghosting, but the G2400W doesn't seem to have this issue. Some MVA panels have inverse ghosting, where the overdrive is working too hard.

The Dell looks good as well, but it has fewer inputs. I think you lose an input but gain the height adjustable stand in comparison to the G2400W. Similar 5ms TN Panel with no overdrive.

Check out this mini comparison:

http://www.drainweb.com/?p=95

The Dell came second to the G2400W. Also looks good.

Regards,

10e
 
Thanks for that, I am really liking the Benq g2400w right now. Seems to be the best TN panel out right now from reviews.

BTW I just saw the FP241W, and WOW that looks amazing, is the G2400w comparable to the fp241w ?

Also found the older model Dell 2405 for under 400 on ebay, but Im afraid of the input lag, as I will be using the PS3 mostly.
 
The backlight is good. Not too strong, not too weak. I'm looking at it with a window over my shoulder and it's suitably bright, but not retina burning like some others I've seen.

It has 1:1, Full, aspect settings for pixel mapping.

1:1 - 1 pixel on monitor for one pixel on image. at 800x600 you see a postage stamp with huge black bars on all four sides. True 1:1
Aspect: Will stretch the "long" side to fill the screen, but not touch the aspect ratio. 4:3 looks correct, as does 16:9. Leaves black bars as well.
Full - Stretches everything to fill the screen.

Regards,

10e


Kr1z said:
How is the backlight on the BenQ G2400W and does it have 1:1 mapping?
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Nice monitor, HORRID price.

$529.00 for a TN panel with a 1 year warranty and a VGA and DVI input. If I want wide gamut I won't buy a TN, or if I have to I'll buy a Samsung 2493HM or 2693HM.

Thanks but no thanks.

I'm not trying to put the monitor down, but that thing should be AT LEAST 50 dollars cheaper. I'd take the Samsung 2493HM over this monitor any day, and the G2400W over both of them.


10e


APOLLO said:
What about the HP W2408? Saw it the other day and was very impressed. I'm also partial towards glossy screens. Any opinions?
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Good call,

No it doesn't, but I guess that's what AnyDVD is for :)

The OP didn't mention whether or not he wants to use a PC for this, a player, or a console.

Regards,

10e


gtg465x said:
He said he wants to watch HD movies though, and the Soyo doesn't have HDCP does it?
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10e said:
Nice monitor, HORRID price.

$529.00 for a TN panel with a 1 year warranty and a VGA and DVI input. If I want wide gamut I won't buy a TN, or if I have to I'll buy a Samsung 2493HM or 2693HM.

Thanks but no thanks.

I'm not trying to put the monitor down, but that thing should be AT LEAST 50 dollars cheaper. I'd take the Samsung 2493HM over this monitor any day, and the G2400W over both of them.
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Well, with LCD displays there's a lot that's purely subjective. I much prefer a glossy panel and the rather unattractive looking Benq isn't a brand that's plentiful around here. Moreover, for a 24" display $50 is not a huge amount especially when purchasing local. If we were comparing smaller displays in say 20" - 22" size range, and if one was purchasing online which would require shipping costs to be taken into consideration, then I'd agree with your value issue wholeheartedly.
 
10e said:
Good call,

No it doesn't, but I guess that's what AnyDVD is for :)

The OP didn't mention whether or not he wants to use a PC for this, a player, or a console.

Regards,

10e
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Both, but mostly for the console.
 
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